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:dunce:Just plain bad....:dunce:

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Same question I asked about Taysom a couple of weeks ago.

Now, we have seen glimpses of another playmaker (his avg yards per catch is 49.2 :eek:) on offense/special teams but he hardly sees the field 2nd half. What are we doing here Pete? Where is the innovation to use him more? In space? Jet sweeps? ... smdh

Look at his college tape. Shaheed can be used in a variety of ways !!

That's on the coaches.

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I love Alontae Taylor. Secondary should look a lot better when Lattimore is back and with Taylor in the mix. We need to find another pass rusher though.

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This season is on the coaches. Way too much talent on this team to be 2-5.

AK and Hill were barely used in the second half alone with not using shaheed in at all… it doesn’t make sense. The play calling is so bland with all of these weapons we have. Pete needs to go now and Allen at the end of the season. We might have worse coaching than the broncos.

I wanted to see what the team looked like without Payton but I was wrong. Payton with this amount of talent would have us at 5-2.

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Which is frustrating considering that the Saints have focused on the D-line more than any other part of the team.

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Davenport looked old, fat and sloooow last night. I thought the man lost weight coming into season.
And the Badger. The badger needs to go work as a club bouncer. He looked like he was patting guys down instead of tackling them.

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Been saying for weeks that whatever DA is thinking with the four man pass rush, it's not working. Opposing QB's have way too much time to extend plays, even if the DB coverage is good. Give any decent QB in the NFL the time our DL has and he's going make you pay for the lack of pressure. 2 Sacks and 2 Hurries is weak a$$ stuff.
If you are not getting to the QB, how about manufacturing pressure? And I'm not talking about Safety blitzes by Matthews you can spot from the cheap seats.

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In my wildest dreams, I never thought appointing DA as head coach would make the Defense worse.

The offense I had questions about, but the defense I thought would improve.
They are awful.
No pressure, no gap discipline, missed tackles galore.
I said a few weeks ago in London that Mathieu was terrible, every single week is the same product from him, lack of effort and missed tackles.
Alontae Taylor looked really promising.

Offense just can't get out of its own way.
Dalton got greedy on the first interception, he had Olave wide open but threw into double coverage.
Second int was fully on Callaway, have to catch that.
3rd int was tough, Dalton looked like he got hit as he threw it, especially considering the pass was nowhere near the intended receiver. I'd put that on the O line.

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Lol 😂.

Embarrassing performance last night.

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Those bags will never fit the heads of Saints fan... far, far too small. :doh:

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Calloway- is who he is, is where he should be.....barely hanging on to a squad. Decent final option but no more
Dalton- Same, some good, some bad but nothing sustaining. back up only option nothing long term
Hard to be too critical of W's and L's with the injuries, but we can see who is worthy of the show and who is not. The future is not now....both offensively and defensively. I believe we need to look at the future for both players and management. Of course we cant dumb injured or oft injured players, but it doesn't mean we can't begin the process where needed. Look at Carolina dumping McCaffery (sp), they received some nice draft capital. Anyways, our division is on the downturn, so maybe we get healthy and make a run towards the end of the season, but we are going to faced with the uncertainty of the future sooner rather than later.

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"Keep doing what you're doing" - (Dennis Allen comments to sideline reporter) after AD throw his 2nd pick 6 - :rolleyes:

Lower your expectations for this 2022 Saints team.

This team is terrible.

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You are welcome to lower yours. I will do with mine as I wish. :D

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I'm actually glad that I couldn't watch this game. It sounds like just sloppy sloppy football.

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I wonder if any QB has ever 'thrown for the cycle' in terms of throwing a TD, Pick 6, Touchback interception, and Safety resulting from completion in their own end zone in the same game. Dalton got 3/4 of the way there, but passing for a safety has to be very rare. If he just listened to Dennis Allen and kept doing what he was doing in the first half, maybe he could have done it!

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And you are more than welcome to stay in fairy land.

The Saints are the worst team in the league 🤡.

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Pass rush is an issue but the rushers aren't the problem. Poor secondary play affects the pass rush as well as no push from the DT who IMO have played far worse than the DE. There are less stunts happening from previous years. There isn't anybody out there that's going to come in change anything. Saints have been playing very vanilla on both sides of the ball. As well as lack of execution. If QBs are getting the ball out in 3 secs damn near every play that's on the dline that means guys are getting beat quick. Trey Henderson didn't register a sack against the Saints just saying.

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Stats don't tell the whole story and sometimes can be misleading

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When you lose key pieces on the back end (Ceedy & Marcus W), it changes things on defense.

So far Maye and Mathieu have been huge disappointments.

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Not to mention Marcus Williams and Ceedy both have 3 picks each.

The saints defense as a unit has 1 on the season...

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I hope they turn this this thing around and the majority have to pop from all the crow they have to eat😜

Stranger things have happened...
Slim chance but maybe just maybe they shock the world.

I'm just a fool👍

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That’s the weird thing Rugby, it started off great. Crisp, sharp O. Early lead. Three good drives then a pic in the end zone. It all unraveled from there. Callaway let’s a pass bounce off his face mask for a pick 6. (I guess that’s expected when your backup QB is throwing to your 4/5th WR).

Still about 2 minutes left in half with TOs and Dalton makes a bad pass for another pick 6. After that, the air went out of the team. D couldn’t tackle. The backup DBs Couldn’t stop Hopkins.

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Hey, I made the journey up to Seattle and was at the Beastmode game where a 7-9 Seahawks team beat us. Anything is possible. Eli Manning and the NY football Giants showed me that.

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This game is like the whole season in a nutshell. IMHO our biggest problem isn't injuries, it isn't the quaility of the roster but it is inconsistency. We are unable to string together good play for more than a drive or a couple of drives at a time. When either the O or the D plays good they are great.
the first couple of drives against the Cardinals the O looked like som offences of old, this with a backup QB, backup LG (and LT) and our 3-6th string WRs. Same thing with the D, when it comes together we have a great D but a lot of time there are breakdowns at multiple places.

* What happened to Onyemata? He has been pretty much invisible so far and a lot of our problems with passrush stems from this.

* Alontae Taylor had a good first showing. He should be able to use this as a stepping stone to grow from.

* I know we gave up a lot to get him but I am really happy Chris Olave is a Saint.

* D-line did a good job of limiting Murrays running lanes for most of the game. We need to get more hits on the QB thou to get him uncomfortable back there.

* Rough game for the DBs, down to a PS-player and a rookie as starting CBs i wasn't hoping for miracles but they would have needed a little more help from the safties.

* I love Honey badger and want him to be goo dfor us but right now he isn't showing nothing.

* Kevin White continues to be an enigma. Great athleticism on display on that long catch and run.

* Rashid Shaheed must be kept at almost any cost. That type of speed is rare. Size wise he compares well to Tyreek Hill and I could see him fill a similar role in our offence.

* Andy Dalton just lost the chance of staying the starter, for now. I think the pick in the endzone was the worst throw. That should have just been thrown away. Not much to say about the Callaway pick, that ball was in the right place. The last pick looked like him trying to will himself back into the game, he has enough experience to know better.

* O-line as a whole doesn't look too bad. We run the ball decently and there isn't a tremendous amount of pressure on the QB.

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Let’s not forget that D really didn’t stop Cards all game. They didn’t punt until 3rd or 4th qtr.

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I forgot one thing:

* Cesar Ruiz is a different player than last year (yeah I know I keep saying it), much improved in the pass but especially in the running game. A lot of our longer gains inside seems to happen behind him. I especially like him when he pulls because he can move.


I liked the way he hustled after the ball on the INTs. Especially this one even thou he didn't get there.

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If you wish to think so, so be it. I'll go on believing in my team, supporting my team, and cheering them on in my seats. I fully believe once we start getting back key players next weekend we'll get on a roll.

:bng:

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When you lose key pieces on the backend (Lattimore, Alonte Taylor, Adebo, Maye & PJ Wiliams), it changes things on defense.

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My Post Mortem Monday takeaways...
I’ve had a lot of pondering (and sobering up) to do after last week’s TNF debacle. Here are my thoughts:
The Uppers
- Shaheed is a rising star. Less is not more. Get him out there and stretch the field.
- Our DB’s. Say what you will about the score. The fact remains that these 2nd and 3rd string guys actually played a game without its starters and still manage to keep Murray to 204 yds passing and only 1 TD. You lose your top 3 DB’s and still come away with those numbers and it’s a plus in my eyes.
- Olave is legit. Expecting great production weekly now and he delivers.
- I’ve seen enough to safely say that Ruiz finally gets it. Not sure what changed, but I love the transition from turnstile to roadblock.

The Downers
- Not one but TWO Pick 6’s! Remove that from the score and the Saints win! Doesn’t matter who’s responsible for them anymore. The TO’s are murdering any chances we have of winning.
- STILL no pressure on the QB. The amount of time these opposing QB’s have when we only rush 4 DL’s is absurd and basically giving chances to make something out of nothing, which is essentially good coverage on passing plays.
- Why wasn’t there double coverage on DHop? You leave a backup out on an island in man on what is arguably one of the best players in the game (post suspension rust or not). We were lucky not to get burned for a lot more than his 103 yds.
- AK 41 is the best weapon we have. But we are now 7 games in and he has ZERO TD’s. What gives Beav? Statistics show that when he scores, the Saints win. Period. Make the call and put the ball in his hands!

Mixed Bag
- The NFC (Dirty) South sucks and at this point anyone can win it. That means that this season is far from over. Saints need to play like it.
- In the words of Donald Rumsfeld, addressing a soldier’s complaint about a lack of equipment going into battle: “You go to war with the army you have, not the army you might want or wish to have at a later time.”
Complaining about the loss of Ceedy and others, future draft currency or bemoaning the good ol’ days of Drew gone by, is losing sight of what can be controlled, which is this team now! Only time will tell if this team will actually start to gel, or if this is a rework in progress. I’m not a cheerleader and never been a ‘glass-half-full’ guy, but I’ve always been a realist. Personally, I like our talent. I see a league that Brady and Rodgers are struggling, yet friggin’ Geno Smith, and back up QB’s are playing winning football. We still have a shot at making some noise. Stranger things have happened in the NFL!

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It's abundantly obvious we don't have the D from last year. That's 100% on management and coaching .

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I agree with ALL of that! Excellent takes!

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- I realize that there didn't seem to be a lot of pressure on Murray at QB, but I believe that was by design. We looked to have basically the same plan we used on Mariota early in the season by trying to contain him instead of trying to sack him. Our defense limited Murray to 30 yards rushing with him coming off a 100 yard game a few days earlier.

- I believe the lack of touches for Taysom had to do with how the Saints seem to design plays tailored to specific players. I expect that both Taysom and now Shaheed fall into that category. Once we got down by two scores in likely took their designed plays out of play and we just don't draw up plays in the dirt.

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I have an alibi:
- Force feeding Callaway was a costly mistake! He's got potential but needs work. I wonder if we can bring in Colston to coach him up?