Ok bako, but step back and look at what you just wrote. It seems like you are saying that the Bills will win the AFC and team x will play the Eagles in the NFC championship game and anything else is a Miracle. You could put Tampa, Niners, Packers, etc in place of the Saints in your post and it would be the same. There are many teams in both leagues that can stop the situation you proposed. Seems you are singling out the Saints and deciding the SB contenders after less than half the season. Again, i recognize it’s your right to your opinion and you may be correct. Seems like you want to be correct about it though bako.

I realize the future is uncertain. There are other elite teams in each league and things could change. Maybe we would have to go through Dallas and KC if those teams get hot. At 2-5, I don't think there is a reasonable scenario where we are getting a 1st round bye in the playoffs. I don't think we are winning 4 straight games against increasingly formidable playoff teams with this older injury prone roster, no long term solution at QB, refs that hate us, less cap space to make additions than our rivals, and a head coach who has consistently produced an about .250 winning percentage.

I don't see it as about wanting to be correct. Whatever the outcome would be there is a correct action to take in hindsight for that outcome, load up if we can really win it all now, or rebuild to have more cap space and draft picks for the future if we really can't. Nobody wants to have to buy new tires on their car but if they just believe that the threadbare tires can go the distance, thats great if they are right, but if they are wrong they might be buying new rims or a new bumper, hood, and radiator or a new face. I can't make myself believe our tires can go the distance even if I might want to. Its not that I am not a true fan of the tires or don't love the tires, its just I see the threads, and I don't want to crash. We have been working toward those threads for years and I don't want to continue to rob future salary caps and draft classes to win now when we are 2-5. I don't want us to be the first team in NFL history to go 0-17, which I think is the type of thing that happens down the road if we say 'damn the future, win now' when we are 2-5.

Another thought. Next draft does Allen sell the farm to move up and draft a qb,

Loomis and Allen are stupid….

This is where you lose all credibility bako. STUPID BS statements like this. Loomis turned a mediocre at best franchise to a Perennial SB contender for the last almost 20 years. Take away refs and the NFL screwing us and we’ve got at least one more trophies in the case. STUPID GMs don’t pull that off. Sentiments like that show you to be an armchair GM with a personal grudge against Loomis with opinions not based in reality.

At least when I lose all credibility the Eagles don’t get to be on pace for an undefeated season and a top 5 pick and get a young star defender for a 5th round pick. When Loomis loses all credibility they do.

The Eagles had a four win season two years ago and and another one 10 years ago. Saints haven’t been that low in about 20 years. In other words they had to do some struggling and get some high draft picks before they got better again. Contrary to your belief, it wasn’t Loomis’ trades that put the Eagles in a good position. You again show your irrationality and unrealistic expectations. New England is struggling now and in a QB controversy. Is their GM crap and Billichik stupid? It’s been a while since Pittsburg was relevant. Guess that means their coach and GM are now garbage too?

Teams have to go through rebuilds. You site models of teams that did. Of teams that acquired future draft picks instead of trading then away. The teams you mention didnt max out their future salary caps to win now after their franchise qb retired. From my perspective your and Loomis’s expectations are unrealistic and mine are realistic. I accept that teams need to go through a rebuilding phase from time to time and that when your franchise qb retires with no capable heir, you lead the league in being over the salary cap ahead of each season, etc that is a sign that its probably time to rebuild and accept some losing while younger less proven players put it all on the line and pull off some upset wins too. I think it is an unrealistic expectation to expect that we can put off rebuilding and win it all under these circumstances and do it with a coach whose career winning percentage is under .250. I think Loomis’ denial in this regard of a neccessary rebuild is delaying our emergence and ability to truly contend in the future. Yeah we might theoretically win the division if every team in our conference is garbage but we aint going far in the playoffs. And next year the hated Falcons have about $120 million more cap space than us, as they cut the bad contracts and took the big cap hits Loomis couldn’t stomach. And you know how many games back they are in the division? Zero. The Falcons are cleaning up their cap and keeping their picks and winning more games than us. The Panthers are doing it too and have the same record as us and the tiebreaker. So
I think its very realistic to say we can rebuild with dignity and honor, and unrealistic to trade future picks and max the salary cap in ways that demand contending for a ring now at the expense of the future, like we expect we have to contend every year.