Let's Talk Trade Deadline

CheramieIII · 10-31-2022, 06:28 PM

We need a first round pick for a decent QB! Thomas is my choice for a trade!

SmashMouth · 10-31-2022, 07:10 PM

Originally Posted by CheramieIII

We need a first round pick for a decent QB! Thomas is my choice for a trade!

Red Rocket is doing well above expectations... he's young enough to stick around until Joe Bureaux comes here as a free agent.

K Major · 11-01-2022, 07:49 AM

Originally Posted by CheramieIII

We need a first round pick for a decent QB! Thomas is my choice for a trade!

The Saints aren’t trading Mike.

saintsfan1976 · 11-01-2022, 08:40 AM

Originally Posted by K Major

The Saints aren’t trading Mike.

A healthy Mike Thomas makes this team better. Despite everything I would not trade this player. He's a game changing talent for our future QB for the next 2-4 years.

SaintFanInATLHELL · 11-01-2022, 09:52 AM

Originally Posted by saintsfan1976

A healthy Mike Thomas makes this team better. Despite everything I would not trade this player. He's a game changing talent for our future QB for the next 2-4 years.

When we get to next offseason we'll actually see where MT13's head is in terms of the Saints. If he really wants to stay, he'll have to take a pay cut. Not a restructure, but an actual drop in pay. If he's unwilling to negotiate that, then the Saints will trade him after June 1st for whatever they can get and take the $25 million cap hit over 2023 and 2024.

But until then, the player isn't going anywhere. All we can hope is that he gets healthy and can be productive down the stretch.

SFIAH

saintsfan1976 · 11-01-2022, 09:59 AM

Originally Posted by SaintFanInATLHELL

When we get to next offseason we'll actually see where MT13's head is in terms of the Saints. If he really wants to stay, he'll have to take a pay cut. Not a restructure, but an actual drop in pay. If he's unwilling to negotiate that, then the Saints will trade him after June 1st for whatever they can get and take the $25 million cap hit over 2023 and 2024.

But until then, the player isn't going anywhere. All we can hope is that he gets healthy and can be productive down the stretch.

SFIAH

I want to believe MT's health and productivity down the stretch are more likely than not.

rezburna · 11-01-2022, 09:51 AM

Originally Posted by K Major

The Saints aren’t trading Mike.

I'm tired of seeing it. We get it...some of y'all don't like Michael Thomas. It's around $10.5 million in dead money to move him this year. He's barely played. His stock his down. We wouldn't even get the value we desire. There are no great trade pieces on this team right now. Let him get healthy and let's see if we can make a playoff push. If it doesn't work out we can restructure his contract and trade him during the draft so the dead money isn't as bad.

SaintFanInATLHELL · 11-01-2022, 09:47 AM

Originally Posted by CheramieIII

We need a first round pick for a decent QB! Thomas is my choice for a trade!

So, you are willing to take on the millions upon millions of dead cap money to make this happen?

Also, do you think the rest of the league is blind? Who out there do you think will trade a first round pick for Thomas when he's barely been on the field for 3 years and unfortunately doesn't look like he can remain healthy.

I can understand being disappointed in MT13's availability. But folks who want to get rid of him have completely unrealistic expectations. If the Saints are going to move MT13, it would be after June 1, 2023 when the contract shifts from the bonus money dominating to the in season salary dominating and the team can split the remaining dead cap across two years. And no one is going to give up a first round pick for him.

SFIAH

mapcow · 11-02-2022, 02:55 PM

Originally Posted by SaintFanInATLHELL

So, you are willing to take on the millions upon millions of dead cap money to make this happen?

Also, do you think the rest of the league is blind? Who out there do you think will trade a first round pick for Thomas when he's barely been on the field for 3 years and unfortunately doesn't look like he can remain healthy.

I can understand being disappointed in MT13's availability. But folks who want to get rid of him have completely unrealistic expectations. If the Saints are going to move MT13, it would be after June 1, 2023 when the contract shifts from the bonus money dominating to the in season salary dominating and the team can split the remaining dead cap across two years. And no one is going to give up a first round pick for him.

SFIAH

Cheramie will not have to TAKE ON anything. The Prima Donna has not contributed to this team in 3 years.... gone pecan

SaintFanInATLHELL · 11-02-2022, 03:40 PM

Originally Posted by mapcow

Cheramie will not have to TAKE ON anything. The Prima Donna has not contributed to this team in 3 years.... gone pecan

OK smart guy. Are you willing to have the Saints take on millions upon millions of dead money to move MT13?

Without MT13, this team would be 2-6 now. He completely dominated the 4th quarter of the Falcons game.

The season is long. MT13 will be back.

SFIAH

10-31-2022, 06:28 PM	#1
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10-31-2022, 07:10 PM	#2
SmashMouth I donated, did you? Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Mandeville, LA Posts: 39,130 Blog Entries: 29	Re: Let's Talk Trade Deadline Originally Posted by CheramieIII We need a first round pick for a decent QB! Thomas is my choice for a trade! Red Rocket is doing well above expectations... he's young enough to stick around until Joe Bureaux comes here as a free agent.

11-01-2022, 07:49 AM	#3
K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,865 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Let's Talk Trade Deadline Originally Posted by CheramieIII We need a first round pick for a decent QB! Thomas is my choice for a trade! The Saints aren’t trading Mike. saintsfan1976, SmashMouth and rezburna like this.

11-01-2022, 08:40 AM	#4
saintsfan1976 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Atlanta Posts: 11,081 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Let's Talk Trade Deadline Originally Posted by K Major The Saints aren’t trading Mike. A healthy Mike Thomas makes this team better. Despite everything I would not trade this player. He's a game changing talent for our future QB for the next 2-4 years.

11-01-2022, 09:52 AM	#5
SaintFanInATLHELL The Professor Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Lithonia, GA Posts: 2,789	Re: Let's Talk Trade Deadline Originally Posted by saintsfan1976 A healthy Mike Thomas makes this team better. Despite everything I would not trade this player. He's a game changing talent for our future QB for the next 2-4 years. When we get to next offseason we'll actually see where MT13's head is in terms of the Saints. If he really wants to stay, he'll have to take a pay cut. Not a restructure, but an actual drop in pay. If he's unwilling to negotiate that, then the Saints will trade him after June 1st for whatever they can get and take the $25 million cap hit over 2023 and 2024. But until then, the player isn't going anywhere. All we can hope is that he gets healthy and can be productive down the stretch. SFIAH
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11-01-2022, 09:59 AM	#6
saintsfan1976 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Atlanta Posts: 11,081 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Let's Talk Trade Deadline Originally Posted by SaintFanInATLHELL When we get to next offseason we'll actually see where MT13's head is in terms of the Saints. If he really wants to stay, he'll have to take a pay cut. Not a restructure, but an actual drop in pay. If he's unwilling to negotiate that, then the Saints will trade him after June 1st for whatever they can get and take the $25 million cap hit over 2023 and 2024. But until then, the player isn't going anywhere. All we can hope is that he gets healthy and can be productive down the stretch. SFIAH I want to believe MT's health and productivity down the stretch are more likely than not.

11-01-2022, 09:51 AM	#7
rezburna 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Kenner, LA Posts: 8,131	Re: Let's Talk Trade Deadline Originally Posted by K Major The Saints aren’t trading Mike. I'm tired of seeing it. We get it...some of y'all don't like Michael Thomas. It's around $10.5 million in dead money to move him this year. He's barely played. His stock his down. We wouldn't even get the value we desire. There are no great trade pieces on this team right now. Let him get healthy and let's see if we can make a playoff push. If it doesn't work out we can restructure his contract and trade him during the draft so the dead money isn't as bad. SmashMouth, K Major and shawnkytonk like this.
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11-01-2022, 09:47 AM	#8
SaintFanInATLHELL The Professor Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Lithonia, GA Posts: 2,789	Re: Let's Talk Trade Deadline Originally Posted by CheramieIII We need a first round pick for a decent QB! Thomas is my choice for a trade! So, you are willing to take on the millions upon millions of dead cap money to make this happen? Also, do you think the rest of the league is blind? Who out there do you think will trade a first round pick for Thomas when he's barely been on the field for 3 years and unfortunately doesn't look like he can remain healthy. I can understand being disappointed in MT13's availability. But folks who want to get rid of him have completely unrealistic expectations. If the Saints are going to move MT13, it would be after June 1, 2023 when the contract shifts from the bonus money dominating to the in season salary dominating and the team can split the remaining dead cap across two years. And no one is going to give up a first round pick for him. SFIAH leilung and Rugby Saint II like this.
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11-02-2022, 02:55 PM	#9
mapcow Just a Fan Join Date: Nov 2009 Posts: 1,819	Re: Let's Talk Trade Deadline Originally Posted by SaintFanInATLHELL So, you are willing to take on the millions upon millions of dead cap money to make this happen? Also, do you think the rest of the league is blind? Who out there do you think will trade a first round pick for Thomas when he's barely been on the field for 3 years and unfortunately doesn't look like he can remain healthy. I can understand being disappointed in MT13's availability. But folks who want to get rid of him have completely unrealistic expectations. If the Saints are going to move MT13, it would be after June 1, 2023 when the contract shifts from the bonus money dominating to the in season salary dominating and the team can split the remaining dead cap across two years. And no one is going to give up a first round pick for him. SFIAH Cheramie will not have to TAKE ON anything. The Prima Donna has not contributed to this team in 3 years.... gone pecan
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11-02-2022, 03:40 PM	#10
SaintFanInATLHELL The Professor Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Lithonia, GA Posts: 2,789	Re: Let's Talk Trade Deadline Originally Posted by mapcow Cheramie will not have to TAKE ON anything. The Prima Donna has not contributed to this team in 3 years.... gone pecan OK smart guy. Are you willing to have the Saints take on millions upon millions of dead money to move MT13? Without MT13, this team would be 2-6 now. He completely dominated the 4th quarter of the Falcons game. The season is long. MT13 will be back. SFIAH