Re: Week Eight QB Debate
 

Re: Week Eight QB Debate
 

You, should never, ever, ever laugh at Bako's logic again.:beer:

All you have managed to do it list the outcome of many of the chances that both Payton and Allen have given him, players without chances do not get injured on the field. It is actually somewhat impossible.

Chance is also the wrong word to use, opportunity is what is given and every QB on this team has been given multiple opportunities to own the starting QB spot. Whether it be lack of talent, lack of consistency, or lack of health, none have been able to capitalized on the opportunities afforded them. They have all been temporary starters.

Its interesting how many people believe that RBs or WRs need reps to "get a rhythm", but also believe you can swap QBs like they are socks and have a successful team. Season/Game planning require a QB that can be healthy more often than not.

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I am glad they have finally decided, at least for this week. We can move on and create a gameplan that will work. Points have not been the biggest issue with Dalton at QB, even without starting receivers. Maybe one day, we can see how well he will do with a starting crew. We all know neither QB is the answer. It was Jameis Winston's job to lose and for now, he did just that.

The D has been the most egregious problem this year. Logic would say that by now they would be syncing, far from the case. The talent is there but the results aren't.

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The tackling has been atrocious over the last few weeks & we are currently #32nd in takeaways.

Penalties & giveaways (int/fumbles) have been equally bad. The Saints are 2-5 for a reason.

No energy & swag (Ceedy) is missing on defense for sure.

Source - > https://www.footballdb.com/stats/turnovers.html

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Poor players in place of starters playing poorly. Real issue.

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Put Michael Thomas....the prima donna in as QB:dunce:

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This is what I am saying. Winston has yet to be given that opportunity to get into that rhythm while healthy with the Saints. I'm not saying he'll be the answer, but what if he surprises us with that opportunity? He's still young enough to start for ten years. There's no promise any QB coming out next year would be any better. Dalton is approaching the final leg of his career and definitely wouldn't be a long term answer.

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In other words ... injuries.

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No one outside of the facility knows the real severity of his injury but turf toe can sideline most athletes for MONTHS if not the season.

A good friend of ours (played at Georgia & later with the Giants) was telling us some horror stories about his TT. So many ligaments involved, so many moving parts, then boom it rears it's ugly head again.

I'd be shocked to see Michael on the field anytime soon in 2022.

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There are three grades of turf toe injury. Grade one has a short 2-3 week turnaround. Grade two is 4-6 weeks. Neither of these require surgery. Grade three requires surgery and is the one that can end a season unless is occurs early. The latter is what Penning had and he's supposed getting close to being able to begin practice.

If Thomas had anything more severe than grade two he would have been placed on IR. I'd be shocked if he doesn't return within the next couple of weeks.