Rumor

iceshack149 · 10-30-2022, 07:22 PM

Alvin Kamara trade rumors: Bills tried to acquire five-time Pro Bowler, turned down by Saints, per report
The five-time Pro Bowler joining an offense like Buffalo's would certainly frighten the entire league. Kamara is one of the best dual-threat backs in the game, as he's racked up at least 1,300 yards from scrimmage in each of his five NFL seasons. This year, he's averaging a career-high 70.2 rushing yards per game. It's no surprise the Saints had zero interest in parting ways with him.

https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/a...ts-per-report/
Loomis and company used their head on this one...

nola_swammi · 10-31-2022, 04:33 AM

Let’s put this to rest, Kamara will remain a saint especially when theirs a chance to make 🤫🤐

mapcow · 10-31-2022, 08:59 AM

Put the prima donna in as lagniappe... might get a couple more good picks

CheramieIII · 10-31-2022, 11:23 AM

Kamara isn’t going anywhere! I think it will be Thomas!

Boston Saint · 10-31-2022, 11:42 AM

Originally Posted by CheramieIII

Kamara isn’t going anywhere! I think it will be Thomas!

Looking at contracts, it’s hard to see either of them leaving. They are either too big a hit in dead money against a cap we are already over and/or due too much future money (Kamara is due over 25 million in 2025!).

I’ve been browsing spotrac a bit and I’ll throw in another name….Winston.

Check out his contract numbers:

https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/new-orle...winston-16725/

He has money (8.4 mill) due against dead cap in 2024 when he isn’t even under contract! Next year he is due a 15 mill cap hit (small for a QB) but has 11 million in dead money. That means if he is not on the roster (via trade or being cut the saints have to take that 11 mill hit plus whatever it takes to sign his replacement.

In other words get used to Winston because he’s on the team next year even if it’s as a backup.

I understand this is where some are critical of Loomis for the contracts he has given. I think the criticism is overblown however as I believe health, refs, and coaching/practicing have been the issues, not the talent.

K Major · 10-31-2022, 03:28 PM

Originally Posted by CheramieIII

I think it will be Thomas!

How so?

20M cap hit in 2022 & 30M in 2023.

Even if he was healthy, highly unlikely Mike would be traded.

SmashMouth · 10-31-2022, 06:18 PM

RG3 on ESPN was trying to sell a Kamara trade to the Rams tonight. I guess these people need to come up with something to talk about.

SaintFanInATLHELL · 11-01-2022, 10:06 AM

Originally Posted by SmashMouth

RG3 on ESPN was trying to sell a Kamara trade to the Rams tonight. I guess these people need to come up with something to talk about.

To the national media, the Saints with Brees and Payton are a farm team. You could see it with the minimal coverage of the Raiders shutout. There was no talk of the dominating defense, or the efficient offense, or Kamara's spectacular game. Only that the Raiders didn't cross the 50 yard line until the last 2 minutes of the game and how Josh McDaniels is wasting all their offensive talent that was so productive as a playoff team last year.

Unfortunately we'll see it again Monday night too. All the coverage will be on the Ravens and Lamar Jackson, and his non contract, and their trade for Roquan Smith. If they talk about the Saints at all, it'll only be about the injuries.

SFIAH

SaintFanInATLHELL · 11-01-2022, 10:08 AM

Originally Posted by mapcow

Put the prima donna in as lagniappe... might get a couple more good picks

To be clear, you so want MT13 gone that you're willing to take a $20+ million cap hit to get it done, right? If so, then who else are you dismissing from the team to get the cap space to make this happen?

SFIAH

10-30-2022, 07:22 PM	#21
iceshack149 1000 Posts + Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Fairbanks, AK Posts: 4,429 Blog Entries: 1	Re: Rumor Alvin Kamara trade rumors: Bills tried to acquire five-time Pro Bowler, turned down by Saints, per report The five-time Pro Bowler joining an offense like Buffalo's would certainly frighten the entire league. Kamara is one of the best dual-threat backs in the game, as he's racked up at least 1,300 yards from scrimmage in each of his five NFL seasons. This year, he's averaging a career-high 70.2 rushing yards per game. It's no surprise the Saints had zero interest in parting ways with him. https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/a...ts-per-report/ Loomis and company used their head on this one... Pete and Boston Saint like this.

10-31-2022, 04:33 AM	#22
nola_swammi 1000 Posts + Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Monroe, La Posts: 2,627	Re: Rumor Let’s put this to rest, Kamara will remain a saint especially when theirs a chance to make 🤫🤐

10-31-2022, 08:59 AM	#23
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10-31-2022, 11:23 AM	#24
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10-31-2022, 11:42 AM	#25
Boston Saint 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Nov 2020 Location: Massachusetts Posts: 5,137	Re: Rumor Originally Posted by CheramieIII Kamara isn’t going anywhere! I think it will be Thomas! Looking at contracts, it’s hard to see either of them leaving. They are either too big a hit in dead money against a cap we are already over and/or due too much future money (Kamara is due over 25 million in 2025!). I’ve been browsing spotrac a bit and I’ll throw in another name….Winston. Check out his contract numbers: https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/new-orle...winston-16725/ He has money (8.4 mill) due against dead cap in 2024 when he isn’t even under contract! Next year he is due a 15 mill cap hit (small for a QB) but has 11 million in dead money. That means if he is not on the roster (via trade or being cut the saints have to take that 11 mill hit plus whatever it takes to sign his replacement. In other words get used to Winston because he’s on the team next year even if it’s as a backup. I understand this is where some are critical of Loomis for the contracts he has given. I think the criticism is overblown however as I believe health, refs, and coaching/practicing have been the issues, not the talent.
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10-31-2022, 03:28 PM	#26
K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,840 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Rumor Originally Posted by CheramieIII I think it will be Thomas! How so? 20M cap hit in 2022 & 30M in 2023. Even if he was healthy, highly unlikely Mike would be traded. SmashMouth and Boston Saint like this.

10-31-2022, 06:18 PM	#27
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11-01-2022, 10:06 AM	#28
SaintFanInATLHELL The Professor Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Lithonia, GA Posts: 2,785	Re: Rumor Originally Posted by SmashMouth RG3 on ESPN was trying to sell a Kamara trade to the Rams tonight. I guess these people need to come up with something to talk about. To the national media, the Saints with Brees and Payton are a farm team. You could see it with the minimal coverage of the Raiders shutout. There was no talk of the dominating defense, or the efficient offense, or Kamara's spectacular game. Only that the Raiders didn't cross the 50 yard line until the last 2 minutes of the game and how Josh McDaniels is wasting all their offensive talent that was so productive as a playoff team last year. Unfortunately we'll see it again Monday night too. All the coverage will be on the Ravens and Lamar Jackson, and his non contract, and their trade for Roquan Smith. If they talk about the Saints at all, it'll only be about the injuries. SFIAH SmashMouth and Boston Saint like this.
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11-01-2022, 10:08 AM	#29
SaintFanInATLHELL The Professor Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Lithonia, GA Posts: 2,785	Re: Rumor Originally Posted by mapcow Put the prima donna in as lagniappe... might get a couple more good picks To be clear, you so want MT13 gone that you're willing to take a $20+ million cap hit to get it done, right? If so, then who else are you dismissing from the team to get the cap space to make this happen? SFIAH Crusader likes this.