Denver Will Be Payton’s Next Job

K Major · 11-29-2022, 08:17 AM

Russ has been surprisingly bad in 2022.

SmashMouth · 11-29-2022, 08:36 AM

Originally Posted by vpheughan

Denver has no draft choices to give up:

Seattle got QB Drew Lock, TE Noah Fant, DL Shelby Harris, two first-round picks, two second-round picks and a fifth-round pick.

Originally Posted by BakoSaint

Denver got Miami’s 1st rounder in the Bradley Chubb trade.

Originally Posted by TheOak

You think Sean Payton wants to coach Russell Wilson who has 8TDs and 5INTs going into in week 12? Dude, your sh1t is cooked.

Originally Posted by saintsfan1976

And they'll need it to draft another QB

Originally Posted by K Major

Russ has been surprisingly bad in 2022.

SP is going somewhere, most of us think in 2023. We'll just have to wait and see where and for how much. It should be a haul in its own way. Methinks an equivalent of 3 number ones... meaning some players and draft picks combo, in all likelihood.

However, you gotta give Pete Carroll credit for knowing/feeling when to offload an aging QB. SP didn't have the same wherewithal evidently. Can you imagine what kind haul Brees would have netted the Saints? Could the Saints have upped an offer to move up one spot to get Mahomes? Were they even contacted? SP rode the stud horse named Drew Brees until he could not anymore... and then got the hell outta of the Saints. You can sorta say he tried to find a successor over the years with the ever so crazy reaches at QB. Yes, finding a worthy replacement at QB is easier said than done, obviously. It still doesn't take away from having the balls to trade a player before he's completely expired for value, like Coach Pete did. It is a team game after all, right? Being friends with a player clouds judgement, the kind of judgement that advances teams positively.

Boston Saint · 11-29-2022, 01:48 PM

Originally Posted by SmashMouth

SP is going somewhere, most of us think in 2023. We'll just have to wait and see where and for how much. It should be a haul in its own way. Methinks an equivalent of 3 number ones... meaning some players and draft picks combo, in all likelihood.

However, you gotta give Pete Carroll credit for knowing/feeling when to offload an aging QB. SP didn't have the same wherewithal evidently. Can you imagine what kind haul Brees would have netted the Saints? Could the Saints have upped an offer to move up one spot to get Mahomes? Were they even contacted? SP rode the stud horse named Drew Brees until he could not anymore... and then got the hell outta of the Saints. You can sorta say he tried to find a successor over the years with the ever so crazy reaches at QB. Yes, finding a worthy replacement at QB is easier said than done, obviously. It still doesn't take away from having the balls to trade a player before he's completely expired for value, like Coach Pete did. It is a team game after all, right? Being friends with a player clouds judgement, the kind of judgement that advances teams positively.

I so hope you are right. I just feel "Saint's Luck" will kick in and we get nothing (or even worse lose a pick for tampering with Gotohell running things).

AsylumGuido · 11-29-2022, 03:33 PM

Originally Posted by SmashMouth

SP is going somewhere, most of us think in 2023. We'll just have to wait and see where and for how much. It should be a haul in its own way. Methinks an equivalent of 3 number ones... meaning some players and draft picks combo, in all likelihood.

However, you gotta give Pete Carroll credit for knowing/feeling when to offload an aging QB. SP didn't have the same wherewithal evidently. Can you imagine what kind haul Brees would have netted the Saints? Could the Saints have upped an offer to move up one spot to get Mahomes? Were they even contacted? SP rode the stud horse named Drew Brees until he could not anymore... and then got the hell outta of the Saints. You can sorta say he tried to find a successor over the years with the ever so crazy reaches at QB. Yes, finding a worthy replacement at QB is easier said than done, obviously. It still doesn't take away from having the balls to trade a player before he's completely expired for value, like Coach Pete did. It is a team game after all, right? Being friends with a player clouds judgement, the kind of judgement that advances teams positively.

I can't see Payton wanting to go somewhere that has given up so much capital. Don't forget, the decision where to go, if anywhere, is totally in Payton's hands. Money won't be a factor, either, since he's making as much as the top paid coaches already with his broadcasting contract.

For example, you can have three teams willing to pony up three first rounders and one other only willing to give a single second rounder for his services. If Payton sees the last one as the only landing spot he'd consider, the Saints must decide to simply take the second rounder or refuse to release him altogether. They really have very little leverage at all.

K Major · 12-13-2022, 06:57 PM

K Major · 12-16-2022, 11:50 AM

Sean Payton Addresses lastest rumors

Sean Payton Addresses lastest rumors

AsylumGuido · 12-16-2022, 12:17 PM

Originally Posted by K Major

Sean Payton Addresses lastest rumors

This ^^^

Many people are making the assumption that QB would be a driving force in Payton's decision for his next coaching location. He shoots that down completely here and says that the most important factor is having a good working relationship with the front office. That is already in place in New Orleans. I've also heard some wonder why Payton would want to return to the Saints with them having no 1st rounder in 2023. Well, anywhere else he goes is likely not to have one either and will likely have to give up even more just to get his rights.

I'm not saying I absolutely expect Payton to return, but it isn't quite the pipedream that some claim it to be either.

Boston Saint · 12-16-2022, 12:26 PM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

This ^^^

Many people are making the assumption that QB would be a driving force in Payton's decision for his next coaching location. He shoots that down completely here and says that the most important factor is having a good working relationship with the front office. That is already in place in New Orleans. I've also heard some wonder why Payton would want to return to the Saints with them having no 1st rounder in 2023. Well, anywhere else he goes is likely not to have one either and will likely have to give up even more just to get his rights.

I'm not saying I absolutely expect Payton to return, but it isn't quite the pipedream that some claim it to be either.

LOTS of assumptions are being made on this site.

AsylumGuido · 12-16-2022, 12:35 PM

Originally Posted by Boston Saint

LOTS of assumptions are being made on this site.

Absolutely. Some more blindly made than others.

Rugby Saint II · 12-21-2022, 02:31 PM

Word on the street is that Arizona is a tempting place to go as well as the Chargers.

11-29-2022, 08:17 AM	#1
K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,831 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Denver Will Be Payton’s Next Job Russ has been surprisingly bad in 2022.

11-29-2022, 08:36 AM	#2
SmashMouth I donated, did you? Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Mandeville, LA Posts: 38,813 Blog Entries: 29	Re: Denver Will Be Payton’s Next Job Originally Posted by vpheughan Denver has no draft choices to give up: Seattle got QB Drew Lock, TE Noah Fant, DL Shelby Harris, two first-round picks, two second-round picks and a fifth-round pick. Originally Posted by BakoSaint Denver got Miami’s 1st rounder in the Bradley Chubb trade. Originally Posted by TheOak You think Sean Payton wants to coach Russell Wilson who has 8TDs and 5INTs going into in week 12? Dude, your sh1t is cooked. Originally Posted by saintsfan1976 And they'll need it to draft another QB Originally Posted by K Major Russ has been surprisingly bad in 2022. SP is going somewhere, most of us think in 2023. We'll just have to wait and see where and for how much. It should be a haul in its own way. Methinks an equivalent of 3 number ones... meaning some players and draft picks combo, in all likelihood. However, you gotta give Pete Carroll credit for knowing/feeling when to offload an aging QB. SP didn't have the same wherewithal evidently. Can you imagine what kind haul Brees would have netted the Saints? Could the Saints have upped an offer to move up one spot to get Mahomes? Were they even contacted? SP rode the stud horse named Drew Brees until he could not anymore... and then got the hell outta of the Saints. You can sorta say he tried to find a successor over the years with the ever so crazy reaches at QB. Yes, finding a worthy replacement at QB is easier said than done, obviously. It still doesn't take away from having the balls to trade a player before he's completely expired for value, like Coach Pete did. It is a team game after all, right? Being friends with a player clouds judgement, the kind of judgement that advances teams positively.

11-29-2022, 01:48 PM	#3
Boston Saint 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Nov 2020 Location: Massachusetts Posts: 5,137	Re: Denver Will Be Payton’s Next Job Originally Posted by SmashMouth SP is going somewhere, most of us think in 2023. We'll just have to wait and see where and for how much. It should be a haul in its own way. Methinks an equivalent of 3 number ones... meaning some players and draft picks combo, in all likelihood. However, you gotta give Pete Carroll credit for knowing/feeling when to offload an aging QB. SP didn't have the same wherewithal evidently. Can you imagine what kind haul Brees would have netted the Saints? Could the Saints have upped an offer to move up one spot to get Mahomes? Were they even contacted? SP rode the stud horse named Drew Brees until he could not anymore... and then got the hell outta of the Saints. You can sorta say he tried to find a successor over the years with the ever so crazy reaches at QB. Yes, finding a worthy replacement at QB is easier said than done, obviously. It still doesn't take away from having the balls to trade a player before he's completely expired for value, like Coach Pete did. It is a team game after all, right? Being friends with a player clouds judgement, the kind of judgement that advances teams positively. I so hope you are right. I just feel "Saint's Luck" will kick in and we get nothing (or even worse lose a pick for tampering with Gotohell running things). Rugby Saint II likes this.

11-29-2022, 03:33 PM	#4
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,622	Re: Denver Will Be Payton’s Next Job Originally Posted by SmashMouth SP is going somewhere, most of us think in 2023. We'll just have to wait and see where and for how much. It should be a haul in its own way. Methinks an equivalent of 3 number ones... meaning some players and draft picks combo, in all likelihood. However, you gotta give Pete Carroll credit for knowing/feeling when to offload an aging QB. SP didn't have the same wherewithal evidently. Can you imagine what kind haul Brees would have netted the Saints? Could the Saints have upped an offer to move up one spot to get Mahomes? Were they even contacted? SP rode the stud horse named Drew Brees until he could not anymore... and then got the hell outta of the Saints. You can sorta say he tried to find a successor over the years with the ever so crazy reaches at QB. Yes, finding a worthy replacement at QB is easier said than done, obviously. It still doesn't take away from having the balls to trade a player before he's completely expired for value, like Coach Pete did. It is a team game after all, right? Being friends with a player clouds judgement, the kind of judgement that advances teams positively. I can't see Payton wanting to go somewhere that has given up so much capital. Don't forget, the decision where to go, if anywhere, is totally in Payton's hands. Money won't be a factor, either, since he's making as much as the top paid coaches already with his broadcasting contract. For example, you can have three teams willing to pony up three first rounders and one other only willing to give a single second rounder for his services. If Payton sees the last one as the only landing spot he'd consider, the Saints must decide to simply take the second rounder or refuse to release him altogether. They really have very little leverage at all.
	“The pessimist sees difficulty in every opportunity. The optimist sees the opportunity in every difficulty.” — Winston Churchill

12-13-2022, 06:57 PM	#5
K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,831 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Denver Will Be Payton’s Next Job Twitter

12-16-2022, 12:17 PM	#7
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,622	Re: Denver Will Be Payton’s Next Job Originally Posted by K Major Sean Payton Addresses lastest rumors This ^^^ Many people are making the assumption that QB would be a driving force in Payton's decision for his next coaching location. He shoots that down completely here and says that the most important factor is having a good working relationship with the front office. That is already in place in New Orleans. I've also heard some wonder why Payton would want to return to the Saints with them having no 1st rounder in 2023. Well, anywhere else he goes is likely not to have one either and will likely have to give up even more just to get his rights. I'm not saying I absolutely expect Payton to return, but it isn't quite the pipedream that some claim it to be either.
	“The pessimist sees difficulty in every opportunity. The optimist sees the opportunity in every difficulty.” — Winston Churchill

12-16-2022, 12:26 PM	#8
Boston Saint 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Nov 2020 Location: Massachusetts Posts: 5,137	Re: Denver Will Be Payton’s Next Job Originally Posted by AsylumGuido This ^^^ Many people are making the assumption that QB would be a driving force in Payton's decision for his next coaching location. He shoots that down completely here and says that the most important factor is having a good working relationship with the front office. That is already in place in New Orleans. I've also heard some wonder why Payton would want to return to the Saints with them having no 1st rounder in 2023. Well, anywhere else he goes is likely not to have one either and will likely have to give up even more just to get his rights. I'm not saying I absolutely expect Payton to return, but it isn't quite the pipedream that some claim it to be either. LOTS of assumptions are being made on this site. AsylumGuido likes this.

12-16-2022, 12:35 PM	#9
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,622	Re: Denver Will Be Payton’s Next Job Originally Posted by Boston Saint LOTS of assumptions are being made on this site. Absolutely. Some more blindly made than others.

12-21-2022, 02:31 PM	#10
Rugby Saint II Bounty Money $$$ Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: 5800 Airline Dr. Metairie, LA. Posts: 24,153	Re: Denver Will Be Payton’s Next Job Word on the street is that Arizona is a tempting place to go as well as the Chargers.

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