Michael Thomas to IR

K Major · 11-03-2022, 07:57 PM

Originally Posted by CheramieIII

I become more frustrated with this guy by the day! Get him healthy and trade him before he gets a hang nail and has to retire anyway!

Who though?

A team looking for a WR would need one that plays.

halloween 65 · 11-03-2022, 10:59 PM

Originally Posted by K Major

Who though?

A team looking for a WR would need one that plays.

he hasn't lived up to his contract by no means, looked great up to that point but nada after signing it. If traded we're getting nothing if anything for him and keeping him here and paying for no return sux also. I think the Saints are stuck with a walking accident prone wr that can't stay healthy, I could care less if it's his fault or not, he's not contributed in how many games? in how many years? That don't cut the mustard in my book, potential or not.

BakoSaint · 11-04-2022, 03:13 AM

Originally Posted by K Major

Who though?

A team looking for a WR would need one that plays.

I think we could get Matt Ryan or Carson Wentz for him, but suffice it to say I would rather cut him. He is not worth his salary because at least 9 times out of 10 a player who is hurt 40 of 50 games over 3 years will never come back and be consistently healthy again, perhaps even 99 out of 100 times, its hard to think of even one player coming back while its easy to think of dozens who didnt. So he is not worth his salary unless he is worth 10x his salary if healthy, and he is not worth $150+ million per year healthy. So he is a logical post june 1 cut unless one is living in total denial.

frydaddy · 11-04-2022, 06:49 AM

Originally Posted by K Major

Per Nick Underhill.

I remember getting roasted a few weeks back for even mentioning this from one poster here .

As I stated before, turf toe is no joke.

Oh well.

Funny how that certain poster disappears when things happen that don't fit into his little fantasy world.

SaintFanInATLHELL · 11-04-2022, 07:38 AM

Originally Posted by halloween 65

he hasn't lived up to his contract by no means, looked great up to that point but nada after signing it.

People keep posting this when it's patently not true. 2019 with 149 catches and 1725 yards, an all-Pro season, and Offensive Player of the Year came after signing the contract.

While it's true that the guy has been hurt, and that a lack of communication between the player and team in the 2021 offseason caused a delay in his return, to say that he's done nada since signing the contract is just bunk.'

SFIAH

TheOak · 11-04-2022, 08:13 AM

Originally Posted by papz

Well damn.

I'd like to say this again... we need a complete overhaul of our strength and conditioning program. We need to modernize the way we train our players, how we handle their nutrition, etc.

I'm sure every team goes through their up and downs with injuries but man... it's been a re-occuring theme year after year with us.

Papz I'm in the "football shape" camp that believes you have to play football to get into football shape. I know the league has cut a lot of contact out in the off and preseason due to risk of injury but it looks like all they did was Loomis injuries into the regular season. There is a level of muscle, joint, and tendon conditioning that only comes from full speed impact.

WW_Who_Dat · 11-04-2022, 08:18 AM

https://neworleans.football/saints-m...oe-surgery-ir/

mapcow · 11-04-2022, 09:17 AM

the prima donna is a slacker....get rid of him. He sure got a lot of you fooled.

papz · 11-04-2022, 09:29 AM

Originally Posted by TheOak

Papz I'm in the "football shape" camp that believes you have to play football to get into football shape. I know the league has cut a lot of contact out in the off and preseason due to risk of injury but it looks like all they did was Loomis injuries into the regular season. There is a level of muscle, joint, and tendon conditioning that only comes from full speed impact.

I agree with that. We only can control what we can but it still wouldn't hurt to try to optimize training the best we can, when we can.

I always wondered why more sports teams don't implement more yoga into their regimen. Maybe they do and it's not publicized but one would think it would pay some dividends.

Man I jammed my toe about 3 weeks ago and not only is it still purple, it hurts as hell. I for one will not rag on Thomas' turf toe. Sucks he's constantly hurt. He was on track of becoming a Hall of Famer.

Rugby Saint II · 11-04-2022, 09:44 AM

Well, most of us knew that this was a strong possibility. It's too bad for can't call Mike. However, I wish him well and hope he can suit up for the Saints again. It's too bad that we can't trade him for a player that can get on the field. But it is what it is.

11-03-2022, 07:57 PM	#31
K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,589 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Michael Thomas to IR Originally Posted by CheramieIII I become more frustrated with this guy by the day! Get him healthy and trade him before he gets a hang nail and has to retire anyway! Who though? A team looking for a WR would need one that plays. subguy, jnormand, leilung and 4 others like this.

11-03-2022, 10:59 PM	#32
halloween 65 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Grand Haven, Michigan by way of a little Mississippi River town in Louisiana Posts: 5,893	Re: Michael Thomas to IR Originally Posted by K Major Who though? A team looking for a WR would need one that plays. he hasn't lived up to his contract by no means, looked great up to that point but nada after signing it. If traded we're getting nothing if anything for him and keeping him here and paying for no return sux also. I think the Saints are stuck with a walking accident prone wr that can't stay healthy, I could care less if it's his fault or not, he's not contributed in how many games? in how many years? That don't cut the mustard in my book, potential or not. jnormand, Rugby Saint II, mapcow and 2 others like this.

11-04-2022, 03:13 AM	#33
BakoSaint 1000 Posts + Join Date: Dec 2018 Posts: 2,091	Re: Michael Thomas to IR Originally Posted by K Major Who though? A team looking for a WR would need one that plays. I think we could get Matt Ryan or Carson Wentz for him, but suffice it to say I would rather cut him. He is not worth his salary because at least 9 times out of 10 a player who is hurt 40 of 50 games over 3 years will never come back and be consistently healthy again, perhaps even 99 out of 100 times, its hard to think of even one player coming back while its easy to think of dozens who didnt. So he is not worth his salary unless he is worth 10x his salary if healthy, and he is not worth $150+ million per year healthy. So he is a logical post june 1 cut unless one is living in total denial.
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11-04-2022, 06:49 AM	#34
frydaddy 1000 Posts + Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Lafayette Posts: 1,950 Blog Entries: 1	Re: Michael Thomas to IR Originally Posted by K Major Per Nick Underhill. I remember getting roasted a few weeks back for even mentioning this from one poster here . As I stated before, turf toe is no joke. Oh well. Funny how that certain poster disappears when things happen that don't fit into his little fantasy world. iceshack149, halloween 65 and K Major like this.

11-04-2022, 07:38 AM	#35
SaintFanInATLHELL The Professor Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Lithonia, GA Posts: 2,773	Re: Michael Thomas to IR Originally Posted by halloween 65 he hasn't lived up to his contract by no means, looked great up to that point but nada after signing it. People keep posting this when it's patently not true. 2019 with 149 catches and 1725 yards, an all-Pro season, and Offensive Player of the Year came after signing the contract. While it's true that the guy has been hurt, and that a lack of communication between the player and team in the 2021 offseason caused a delay in his return, to say that he's done nada since signing the contract is just bunk.' SFIAH Rugby Saint II, Rueben Mayes, rezburna and 1 others like this.

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TheOak 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Cypress Tx. Posts: 19,019	Re: Michael Thomas to IR Originally Posted by papz Well damn. I'd like to say this again... we need a complete overhaul of our strength and conditioning program. We need to modernize the way we train our players, how we handle their nutrition, etc. I'm sure every team goes through their up and downs with injuries but man... it's been a re-occuring theme year after year with us. Papz I'm in the "football shape" camp that believes you have to play football to get into football shape. I know the league has cut a lot of contact out in the off and preseason due to risk of injury but it looks like all they did was Loomis injuries into the regular season. There is a level of muscle, joint, and tendon conditioning that only comes from full speed impact. Rugby Saint II and Boston Saint like this.

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papz Problem? Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: New Orleans Posts: 11,737	Re: Michael Thomas to IR Originally Posted by TheOak Papz I'm in the "football shape" camp that believes you have to play football to get into football shape. I know the league has cut a lot of contact out in the off and preseason due to risk of injury but it looks like all they did was Loomis injuries into the regular season. There is a level of muscle, joint, and tendon conditioning that only comes from full speed impact. I agree with that. We only can control what we can but it still wouldn't hurt to try to optimize training the best we can, when we can. I always wondered why more sports teams don't implement more yoga into their regimen. Maybe they do and it's not publicized but one would think it would pay some dividends. Man I jammed my toe about 3 weeks ago and not only is it still purple, it hurts as hell. I for one will not rag on Thomas' turf toe. Sucks he's constantly hurt. He was on track of becoming a Hall of Famer. iceshack149 and SmashMouth like this.
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11-04-2022, 09:44 AM	#40
Rugby Saint II Bounty Money $$$ Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: 5800 Airline Dr. Metairie, LA. Posts: 24,043	Re: Michael Thomas to IR Well, most of us knew that this was a strong possibility. It's too bad for can't call Mike. However, I wish him well and hope he can suit up for the Saints again. It's too bad that we can't trade him for a player that can get on the field. But it is what it is. jnormand and shawnkytonk like this.