Observations from the Saints' Loss to the Ravens

SmashMouth · 11-08-2022, 10:44 AM

Originally Posted by TheOak

I know we do this because it’s habit but is there any observation left to be made?

Prolly not for this game. But it does indeed help fans vent a bit.

The NFL wanted every team to suck and be eligible for playoffs with an 8-9 record, very much like hockey. Welcome to today's NFL. Under that standard, we still have a chance, slim as it is. Last year's Bengals made it to the SB with less than a top notch record, didn't they?

BakoSaint · 11-08-2022, 10:51 AM

Originally Posted by turbo_dog

What QBs will be available in free agency next year?

To sign a good QB in free agency we will need to get under the cap and then free up even more cap space. This will require signing players like Michael Thomas, Andrus Peat, Jarvis Landy, Tyrann Mathieu, Taysom Hill, Marcus Maye, etc to long term extensions to defer money in return for guaranteeing them more. Loomis will make this happen. That is why we have to fire Loomis.

Rugby Saint II · 11-08-2022, 11:22 AM

Originally Posted by turbo_dog

What QBs will be available in free agency next year?

That is a really good question. I think that since we don't have a good enough draft pick to draft a quarterback that this might be our best option. There's something to be said for a fresh start somewhere else. Look at Drew. However, we don't have that same type of coaching now.

neugey · 11-08-2022, 11:45 AM

This QB draft will be pretty deep. Maybe if things shake out right Hooker or DTR or another desirable QB will slip into 2nd or 3rd round while Bryce Young and the flavor of the month choices go at the top of the draft.

rezburna · 11-08-2022, 11:46 AM

Originally Posted by turbo_dog

What QBs will be available in free agency next year?

Geno Smith (32 years old)
Baker Mayfield (27 years old)
Sam Darnold (25 years old)
Jimmy Garoppolo (31 years old)
Daniel Jones (25 years old)
Tyler Huntley (25 years old)
Gardner Minshew (26 years old)

iceshack149 · 11-08-2022, 12:00 PM

Originally Posted by BakoSaint

Marv Lewis has a career 19-13 record against the Ravens. Not saying he is the best coach, but clearly he is an upgrade over Allen and is available now.

Lewis has not proven to be a get-over-the-hump coach. The ultimate tease for HC. I'd like to see a Payton/Tomlin type of coach here. Not only cerebral but tough as well.

BakoSaint · 11-08-2022, 12:04 PM

Originally Posted by iceshack149

Lewis has not proven to be a get-over-the-hump coach. The ultimate tease for HC. I'd like to see a Payton/Tomlin type of coach here. Not only cerebral but tough as well.

Yeah but anything would be an improvement over our Meyer/McDaniels/Jackson type of coach and I want to improve immediately.

Boston Saint · 11-08-2022, 12:06 PM

Originally Posted by neugey

This QB draft will be pretty deep. Maybe if things shake out right Hooker or DTR or another desirable QB will slip into 2nd or 3rd round while Bryce Young and the flavor of the month choices go at the top of the draft.

I was thinking this too. Jalen Hurts slipped to pick 53.

dizzle88 · 11-08-2022, 12:22 PM

Just watched the highlights, I'm really glad I didnt stay up (UK time) for that game.

As usual, team looks flat, uninspired and really poorly coached.

The throws to the flat by Jackson were an automatic 8+ yards because the defenders were playing so far off. That's not even counting the yardage after the inevitable missed tackle or 3.

DA and Loomis let a ton of defensive talent walk and it shows. This team is just poor all around.

I'm starting to think we need a full reboot, including some coaching staff members.

voodooido · 11-08-2022, 12:29 PM

Originally Posted by shawnkytonk

Trade deadline was last week.

Actually. I meant in the off-season. This team is going to lead us to giving the eagles a top 5 pick. It’s time to press the reboot button. Build through the draft

11-08-2022, 10:44 AM	#21
SmashMouth I donated, did you? Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Mandeville, LA Posts: 38,044 Blog Entries: 29	Re: Observations from the Saints' Loss to the Ravens Originally Posted by TheOak I know we do this because it’s habit but is there any observation left to be made? Prolly not for this game. But it does indeed help fans vent a bit. The NFL wanted every team to suck and be eligible for playoffs with an 8-9 record, very much like hockey. Welcome to today's NFL. Under that standard, we still have a chance, slim as it is. Last year's Bengals made it to the SB with less than a top notch record, didn't they?

11-08-2022, 10:51 AM	#22
BakoSaint 1000 Posts + Join Date: Dec 2018 Posts: 2,091	Re: Observations from the Saints' Loss to the Ravens Originally Posted by turbo_dog What QBs will be available in free agency next year? To sign a good QB in free agency we will need to get under the cap and then free up even more cap space. This will require signing players like Michael Thomas, Andrus Peat, Jarvis Landy, Tyrann Mathieu, Taysom Hill, Marcus Maye, etc to long term extensions to defer money in return for guaranteeing them more. Loomis will make this happen. That is why we have to fire Loomis.
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11-08-2022, 11:22 AM	#23
Rugby Saint II Bounty Money $$$ Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: 5800 Airline Dr. Metairie, LA. Posts: 24,043	Re: Observations from the Saints' Loss to the Ravens Originally Posted by turbo_dog What QBs will be available in free agency next year? That is a really good question. I think that since we don't have a good enough draft pick to draft a quarterback that this might be our best option. There's something to be said for a fresh start somewhere else. Look at Drew. However, we don't have that same type of coaching now.

11-08-2022, 11:45 AM	#24
neugey Hu Dat! Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 6,673 Blog Entries: 13	Re: Observations from the Saints' Loss to the Ravens This QB draft will be pretty deep. Maybe if things shake out right Hooker or DTR or another desirable QB will slip into 2nd or 3rd round while Bryce Young and the flavor of the month choices go at the top of the draft. Boston Saint likes this.

11-08-2022, 11:46 AM	#25
rezburna 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Kenner, LA Posts: 7,848	Re: Observations from the Saints' Loss to the Ravens Originally Posted by turbo_dog What QBs will be available in free agency next year? Geno Smith (32 years old) Baker Mayfield (27 years old) Sam Darnold (25 years old) Jimmy Garoppolo (31 years old) Daniel Jones (25 years old) Tyler Huntley (25 years old) Gardner Minshew (26 years old)

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11-08-2022, 12:00 PM	#26
iceshack149 1000 Posts + Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Fairbanks, AK Posts: 4,238 Blog Entries: 1	Re: Observations from the Saints' Loss to the Ravens Originally Posted by BakoSaint Marv Lewis has a career 19-13 record against the Ravens. Not saying he is the best coach, but clearly he is an upgrade over Allen and is available now. Lewis has not proven to be a get-over-the-hump coach. The ultimate tease for HC. I'd like to see a Payton/Tomlin type of coach here. Not only cerebral but tough as well.

11-08-2022, 12:04 PM	#27
BakoSaint 1000 Posts + Join Date: Dec 2018 Posts: 2,091	Re: Observations from the Saints' Loss to the Ravens Originally Posted by iceshack149 Lewis has not proven to be a get-over-the-hump coach. The ultimate tease for HC. I'd like to see a Payton/Tomlin type of coach here. Not only cerebral but tough as well. Yeah but anything would be an improvement over our Meyer/McDaniels/Jackson type of coach and I want to improve immediately.
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11-08-2022, 12:06 PM	#28
Boston Saint 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Nov 2020 Location: Massachusetts Posts: 5,137	Re: Observations from the Saints' Loss to the Ravens Originally Posted by neugey This QB draft will be pretty deep. Maybe if things shake out right Hooker or DTR or another desirable QB will slip into 2nd or 3rd round while Bryce Young and the flavor of the month choices go at the top of the draft. I was thinking this too. Jalen Hurts slipped to pick 53.

11-08-2022, 12:22 PM	#29
dizzle88 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 11,118	Re: Observations from the Saints' Loss to the Ravens Just watched the highlights, I'm really glad I didnt stay up (UK time) for that game. As usual, team looks flat, uninspired and really poorly coached. The throws to the flat by Jackson were an automatic 8+ yards because the defenders were playing so far off. That's not even counting the yardage after the inevitable missed tackle or 3. DA and Loomis let a ton of defensive talent walk and it shows. This team is just poor all around. I'm starting to think we need a full reboot, including some coaching staff members. neugey, leilung, SaintFanQ and 2 others like this.

11-08-2022, 12:29 PM	#30
voodooido 1000 Posts + Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 2,761	Re: Observations from the Saints' Loss to the Ravens Originally Posted by shawnkytonk Trade deadline was last week. Actually. I meant in the off-season. This team is going to lead us to giving the eagles a top 5 pick. It’s time to press the reboot button. Build through the draft
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