Observations from the Saints' Loss to the Steelers

AsylumGuido · 11-15-2022, 08:48 AM

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AsylumGuido · 11-15-2022, 12:12 PM

This is a case of PFF grading making little sense when it comes to Dalton.

Top 5 offense (minimum 16 snaps)

71.4 – RB Alvin Kamara (37 snaps)
70.1 – QB Andy Dalton (43 snaps)
69.0 – WR Chris Olave (36 snaps)
62.1 – RT Ryan Ramczyk (47 snaps)
61.2 – WR Jarvis Landry (37 snaps)
Honorable mention: WR Rashid Shaheed (75.3 grade on 6 snaps)

Top 5 defense (minimum 27 snaps)

90.1 – LB Kaden Elliss (81 snaps)
76.7 – S P.J. Williams (84 snaps)
69.6 – CB Chris Harris Jr. (55 snaps)
69.3 – DE Cameron Jordan (49 snaps)
68.9 – LB Zack Baun (28 snaps)
Honorable mention: S Tyrann mathieu (67.5 grade on 84 snaps)

Bottom 5 offense (minimum 16 snaps)

26.2 – LG Lewis Kidd (26 snaps)
40.1 – LT Landon Young (20 snaps)
41.0 – LG Calvin Throckmorton (21 snaps)
44.4 – WR Kevin White (31 snaps)
45.0 – TE Taysom Hill (19 snaps)
Dishonorable mention: C Josh Andrews (47.4 grade on 47 snaps)

Bottom 5 defense (minimum 27 snaps)

27.9 – DT Kentavius Street (45 snaps)
32.1 – CB Alontae Taylor (80 snaps)
40.3 – CB Paulson Adebo (84 snaps)
47.4 – DT David Onyemata (42 snaps)
48.6 – DT Malcolm Roach (44 snaps)
Dishonorable mention: DT Shy Tuttle (51.7 grade on 34 snaps)

K Major · 11-15-2022, 01:06 PM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

https://twitter.com/JeffDuncan_/stat...24339571838979

72 penalties thus far and over 600 yards. 19 false starts (tied for the worst).

Wow, just wow.

Source

AsylumGuido · 11-15-2022, 01:19 PM

Originally Posted by K Major

72 penalties thus far and over 600 yards. 19 false starts (tied for the worst).

Wow, just wow.

Source

The false starts are somewhat understandable given all the different offensive players being forced into duty. It doesn't make it any more acceptable, but it is understandable.

K Major · 11-15-2022, 03:14 PM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

The false starts are somewhat understandable given all the different offensive players being forced into duty.

Disagree.

False starts this late in the season are all on coaching.

That's what practice, OTA's, training camp & the pre-season games are for.

Saints future

AsylumGuido · 11-15-2022, 03:55 PM

Originally Posted by K Major

Disagree.

False starts this late in the season are all on coaching.

That's what practice, OTA's, training camp & the pre-season games are for.

Saints future

Where did I say it wasn't due in part, at least, to the coaching? When you have players that haven't been getting 1st team snaps in pre-season, OTA, training camp, or through most of the regular season practices they are not going to be getting the same intensity of coaching. That's just a fact.

I repeat, it is NOT acceptable, but it is understandable.

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AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,622	Re: Observations from the Saints' Loss to the Steelers Twitter This is a case of PFF grading making little sense when it comes to Dalton. Top 5 offense (minimum 16 snaps) 71.4 – RB Alvin Kamara (37 snaps) 70.1 – QB Andy Dalton (43 snaps) 69.0 – WR Chris Olave (36 snaps) 62.1 – RT Ryan Ramczyk (47 snaps) 61.2 – WR Jarvis Landry (37 snaps) Honorable mention: WR Rashid Shaheed (75.3 grade on 6 snaps) Top 5 defense (minimum 27 snaps) 90.1 – LB Kaden Elliss (81 snaps) 76.7 – S P.J. Williams (84 snaps) 69.6 – CB Chris Harris Jr. (55 snaps) 69.3 – DE Cameron Jordan (49 snaps) 68.9 – LB Zack Baun (28 snaps) Honorable mention: S Tyrann mathieu (67.5 grade on 84 snaps) Bottom 5 offense (minimum 16 snaps) 26.2 – LG Lewis Kidd (26 snaps) 40.1 – LT Landon Young (20 snaps) 41.0 – LG Calvin Throckmorton (21 snaps) 44.4 – WR Kevin White (31 snaps) 45.0 – TE Taysom Hill (19 snaps) Dishonorable mention: C Josh Andrews (47.4 grade on 47 snaps) Bottom 5 defense (minimum 27 snaps) 27.9 – DT Kentavius Street (45 snaps) 32.1 – CB Alontae Taylor (80 snaps) 40.3 – CB Paulson Adebo (84 snaps) 47.4 – DT David Onyemata (42 snaps) 48.6 – DT Malcolm Roach (44 snaps) Dishonorable mention: DT Shy Tuttle (51.7 grade on 34 snaps)
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11-15-2022, 01:06 PM	#3
K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,831 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Observations from the Saints' Loss to the Steelers Originally Posted by AsylumGuido https://twitter.com/JeffDuncan_/stat...24339571838979 72 penalties thus far and over 600 yards. 19 false starts (tied for the worst). Wow, just wow. Source jnormand and leilung like this.

11-15-2022, 01:19 PM	#4
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,622	Re: Observations from the Saints' Loss to the Steelers Originally Posted by K Major 72 penalties thus far and over 600 yards. 19 false starts (tied for the worst). Wow, just wow. Source The false starts are somewhat understandable given all the different offensive players being forced into duty. It doesn't make it any more acceptable, but it is understandable.

11-15-2022, 03:55 PM	#6
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,622	Re: Observations from the Saints' Loss to the Steelers Originally Posted by K Major Disagree. False starts this late in the season are all on coaching. That's what practice, OTA's, training camp & the pre-season games are for. Saints future Where did I say it wasn't due in part, at least, to the coaching? When you have players that haven't been getting 1st team snaps in pre-season, OTA, training camp, or through most of the regular season practices they are not going to be getting the same intensity of coaching. That's just a fact. I repeat, it is NOT acceptable, but it is understandable.