Carolina to Waive Baker Mayfield Today - Should We?

SmashMouth · 12-09-2022, 12:16 PM

Originally Posted by K Major

A player is only as good as his OC & Head Coach.

Baker would not have long term success with the current Saints coaching staff.

Good for Mayfield though. He found a way to win.

In all fairness, DA had the foresight to continue to play the red haired QB over Jameis, even if Jameis is still technically injured albeit heathly enough to play, allegedly. Our third string option is not really an option as we've discovered. We had a chance to get a decent QB for simple $ and no draft picks, even if for the balance of the year and a potentially reduced contract next year as he fights for his second contract.

SmashMouth · 12-12-2022, 07:23 PM

So Mayfield got a little assist?

K Major · 12-12-2022, 07:55 PM

Originally Posted by SmashMouth

So Mayfield got a little assist?

So basically every NFL team gets hosed by part time refs in games and not just the Saints

?

Just wait until the postseason... in a close game, someone is getting screwed by a non-call.

Boston Saint · 12-12-2022, 08:03 PM

Originally Posted by K Major

So basically every NFL team gets hosed by part time refs in games and not just the Saints ?

Just wait until the postseason... in a close game, someone is getting screwed by a non-call.

I don’t think anyone said it was just the Saints. And I don’t see it happening to “every” team. I see it repeatedly happening to a few teams.

AsylumGuido · 12-13-2022, 08:19 AM

Originally Posted by Boston Saint

I don’t think anyone said it was just the Saints. And I don’t see it happening to “every” team. I see it repeatedly happening to a few teams.

At one point or another every team gets burned by a blown call and each and every one of their fan bases claim the league is out to get them. It's going to continue happening to a degree even if we get rid of the part time officials because they are still human and will make mistakes. Not as many as these incompetent old farts they call officials currently, but they'll still happen.

The only true solution is replay across the board.

SmashMouth · 12-13-2022, 09:32 AM

Originally Posted by K Major

So basically every NFL team gets hosed by part time refs in games and not just the Saints ?

Just wait until the postseason... in a close game, someone is getting screwed by a non-call.

Originally Posted by Boston Saint

I don’t think anyone said it was just the Saints. And I don’t see it happening to “every” team. I see it repeatedly happening to a few teams.

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

At one point or another every team gets burned by a blown call and each and every one of their fan bases claim the league is out to get them. It's going to continue happening to a degree even if we get rid of the part time officials because they are still human and will make mistakes. Not as many as these incompetent old farts they call officials currently, but they'll still happen.

The only true solution is replay across the board.

How is it that College and the new upstart pro leagues can get it right?

Ahhh... yes! We know why, don't we?

AsylumGuido · 12-13-2022, 11:47 AM

Originally Posted by SmashMouth

How is it that College and the new upstart pro leagues can get it right?

They don't. They just aren't under the same microscope. I don't watch much of the college game, yet I see horrible calls in most every game I do watch. There are also fewer camera angles in college ball to show how bad the officiating actually is. As for the XFL's, USFL's, and CFL's of the world, the microscope doesn't even exist at all. These are all officiated by even less qualified part time refs.

Watch: Full montage of every questionable call from SEC officials during Tennessee-Alabama game

Is the college officiating system broken? Real referees explain how to fix it

College football referee reportedly suspended for blatantly bad call that changed Week 3 game

College Football Referee Was Suspended For Blown Call

These are just a few different instances from the current college season. There are tons more reported on and many times more than are simply ignored.

vpheughan · 12-13-2022, 01:30 PM

If the "Non Call" vs the Rams in the NFCCCG didn't convince you, nothing will. Remember the NFL released NO STATEMENT for 10 days after the "blown" call. Yeah, I still watch the NFL but through a "See if you can spot the FIX" lens. Start paying attention to the body language of players in the sideline views of the team that "could lose the game, IF......" The NFL is a SPORTS/ENTERTAINMENT business.

12-09-2022, 12:16 PM	#51
SmashMouth I donated, did you? Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Mandeville, LA Posts: 38,044 Blog Entries: 29	Re: Carolina to Waive Baker Mayfield Today - Should We? Originally Posted by K Major A player is only as good as his OC & Head Coach. Baker would not have long term success with the current Saints coaching staff. Good for Mayfield though. He found a way to win. In all fairness, DA had the foresight to continue to play the red haired QB over Jameis, even if Jameis is still technically injured albeit heathly enough to play, allegedly. Our third string option is not really an option as we've discovered. We had a chance to get a decent QB for simple $ and no draft picks, even if for the balance of the year and a potentially reduced contract next year as he fights for his second contract.

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AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,048	Re: Carolina to Waive Baker Mayfield Today - Should We? Originally Posted by Boston Saint I don’t think anyone said it was just the Saints. And I don’t see it happening to “every” team. I see it repeatedly happening to a few teams. At one point or another every team gets burned by a blown call and each and every one of their fan bases claim the league is out to get them. It's going to continue happening to a degree even if we get rid of the part time officials because they are still human and will make mistakes. Not as many as these incompetent old farts they call officials currently, but they'll still happen. The only true solution is replay across the board.

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SmashMouth I donated, did you? Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Mandeville, LA Posts: 38,044 Blog Entries: 29	Re: Carolina to Waive Baker Mayfield Today - Should We? Originally Posted by K Major So basically every NFL team gets hosed by part time refs in games and not just the Saints ? Just wait until the postseason... in a close game, someone is getting screwed by a non-call. Originally Posted by Boston Saint I don’t think anyone said it was just the Saints. And I don’t see it happening to “every” team. I see it repeatedly happening to a few teams. Originally Posted by AsylumGuido At one point or another every team gets burned by a blown call and each and every one of their fan bases claim the league is out to get them. It's going to continue happening to a degree even if we get rid of the part time officials because they are still human and will make mistakes. Not as many as these incompetent old farts they call officials currently, but they'll still happen. The only true solution is replay across the board. How is it that College and the new upstart pro leagues can get it right? Ahhh... yes! We know why, don't we? Boston Saint likes this.

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AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,048	Re: Carolina to Waive Baker Mayfield Today - Should We? Originally Posted by SmashMouth How is it that College and the new upstart pro leagues can get it right? They don't. They just aren't under the same microscope. I don't watch much of the college game, yet I see horrible calls in most every game I do watch. There are also fewer camera angles in college ball to show how bad the officiating actually is. As for the XFL's, USFL's, and CFL's of the world, the microscope doesn't even exist at all. These are all officiated by even less qualified part time refs. Watch: Full montage of every questionable call from SEC officials during Tennessee-Alabama game Is the college officiating system broken? Real referees explain how to fix it College football referee reportedly suspended for blatantly bad call that changed Week 3 game College Football Referee Was Suspended For Blown Call These are just a few different instances from the current college season. There are tons more reported on and many times more than are simply ignored.
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12-13-2022, 01:30 PM	#58
vpheughan 1000 Posts + Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 4,515	Re: Carolina to Waive Baker Mayfield Today - Should We? If the "Non Call" vs the Rams in the NFCCCG didn't convince you, nothing will. Remember the NFL released NO STATEMENT for 10 days after the "blown" call. Yeah, I still watch the NFL but through a "See if you can spot the FIX" lens. Start paying attention to the body language of players in the sideline views of the team that "could lose the game, IF......" The NFL is a SPORTS/ENTERTAINMENT business. Boston Saint likes this.
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