NFL levies $550,000 in fines for allegedly fake Cam Jordan injury on Monday night

AsylumGuido · 12-10-2022, 04:13 PM

Originally Posted by dizzle88

Just another reason I'm glad I don't really watch the games anymore.

The league and the refs are unaccountable for their screwups, which basically decide the outcome of games.

Don't worry, diz. It appears you aren't the only one that doesn't really watch the games anymore. Pretty obvious by their commentary.

Here's to your getting back into the watching fold soon!

Boston Saint · 12-10-2022, 04:39 PM

I’m curious if other teams have been fined for this before. Can someone tell
me? Sorry if I missed it i’m the article.

K Major · 12-10-2022, 04:46 PM

Originally Posted by Boston Saint

I’m curious if other teams have been fined for this before. Can someone tell
me? Sorry if I missed it i’m the article.

5 teams

K Major · 12-10-2022, 04:48 PM

Sorry, previous link is bad.

Story

Boston Saint · 12-10-2022, 04:57 PM

That’s a tough stance to take. How can the league say they are for player safety and then fine a team for doing something that may be in the players interest. I’m not saying it targets the Saints, but the spirit makes teams and players ignore/aggravate injuries during a game.

Boston Saint · 12-10-2022, 05:37 PM

Why don’t they mention the other teams? I just saw a headline flash on my TV screen that says “Saints fined”

K Major · 12-10-2022, 05:54 PM

Originally Posted by Boston Saint

Why don’t they mention the other teams? I just saw a headline flash on my TV screen that says “Saints fined”

Yep.

The only other team that I've seen mentioned on the NFL network has been Jessie Bates of the Bengals from last week's game vs the Chiefs.

The OTHER 3 ... not much info.

BakoSaint · 12-10-2022, 07:48 PM

Originally Posted by K Major

Yep.

The only other team that I've seen mentioned on the NFL network has been Jessie Bates of the Bengals from last week's game vs the Chiefs.

The OTHER 3 ... not much info.

The other three teams kissed Goodell’s cheesy toe ring and said thank you king roger for even letting our small market little city have a team sir, so since the fines were private, they stayed private if the teams did not protest.

I wonder if Jordan could appeal this with some federal labor type authorities. I can’t imagine fining a worker for seeking treatment for an injury is legal. OSHA could sanction Goodell and fine him, so not just appeal this fine, fine him!

The NFL thinks they have proof because supposedly Jordan gets up and takes a signal from the sideline before down, but its not nearly that simple if you think about it. Most foot injuries only become fully apparent after getting up and taking a few steps. Maybe step one is ouch, step two is darn i felt that again let me pay more attention, and step three is oh thats not good. Meanwhile what doesna defensive captain do probably every play? Look to the sideline for a signal. So logically the normal experience of a foot injury would usually be to get up and notice the injury while looking to the sideline for a signal on the next play.

The NFL is a dangerous sport and players accept that but the right to seek treatment when injured at work is a very basic right that I dont think players can or should waive. I think Goodell is probably violating some sort of labor law.

neugey · 12-10-2022, 08:24 PM

Originally Posted by BakoSaint

The other three teams kissed Goodell’s cheesy toe ring and said thank you king roger for even letting our small market little city have a team sir, so since the fines were private, they stayed private if the teams did not protest.

I wonder if Jordan could appeal this with some federal labor type authorities. I can’t imagine fining a worker for seeking treatment for an injury is legal. OSHA could sanction Goodell and fine him, so not just appeal this fine, fine him!

The NFL thinks they have proof because supposedly Jordan gets up and takes a signal from the sideline before down, but its not nearly that simple if you think about it. Most foot injuries only become fully apparent after getting up and taking a few steps. Maybe step one is ouch, step two is darn i felt that again let me pay more attention, and step three is oh thats not good. Meanwhile what doesna defensive captain do probably every play? Look to the sideline for a signal. So logically the normal experience of a foot injury would usually be to get up and notice the injury while looking to the sideline for a signal on the next play.

The NFL is a dangerous sport and players accept that but the right to seek treatment when injured at work is a very basic right that I dont think players can or should waive. I think Goodell is probably violating some sort of labor law.

I think our best shot is having the NFLPA assert itself and stand up for Jordan and other players who may have legitimate injuries and are in this position to be wrongly accused. NFLPA needs to let the NFL they can't have it both ways with player safety.

BakoSaint · 12-10-2022, 10:08 PM

Originally Posted by neugey

I think our best shot is having the NFLPA assert itself and stand up for Jordan and other players who may have legitimate injuries and are in this position to be wrongly accused. NFLPA needs to let the NFL they can't have it both ways with player safety.

The best defense is a good offense. We need to bring the pain to Goodell. The NFL is subject to OSHA regulation. This is the code Goodell and the league office violated. Jordan should file a complaint and then the NFL will be investigated by an authority they didnt choose.

1904.35(b)(1)(iv)
You must not discharge or in any manner discriminate against any employee for reporting a work-related injury or illness.

Jordan reported to a ref, a league employee supervising his work, that he was injured. The league then fined him $50,000.

12-10-2022, 04:13 PM	#1
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,671	Re: NFL levies $550,000 in fines for allegedly fake Cam Jordan injury on Monday night Originally Posted by dizzle88 Just another reason I'm glad I don't really watch the games anymore. The league and the refs are unaccountable for their screwups, which basically decide the outcome of games. Don't worry, diz. It appears you aren't the only one that doesn't really watch the games anymore. Pretty obvious by their commentary. Here's to your getting back into the watching fold soon!

12-10-2022, 04:39 PM	#2
Boston Saint 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Nov 2020 Location: Massachusetts Posts: 5,137	Re: NFL levies $550,000 in fines for allegedly fake Cam Jordan injury on Monday night I’m curious if other teams have been fined for this before. Can someone tell me? Sorry if I missed it i’m the article.

12-10-2022, 04:46 PM	#3
K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,838 Blog Entries: 3	Re: NFL levies $550,000 in fines for allegedly fake Cam Jordan injury on Monday night Originally Posted by Boston Saint I’m curious if other teams have been fined for this before. Can someone tell me? Sorry if I missed it i’m the article. 5 teams SmashMouth and Boston Saint like this.

12-10-2022, 04:48 PM	#4
K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,838 Blog Entries: 3	Re: NFL levies $550,000 in fines for allegedly fake Cam Jordan injury on Monday night Sorry, previous link is bad. Story

12-10-2022, 04:57 PM	#5
Boston Saint 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Nov 2020 Location: Massachusetts Posts: 5,137	Re: NFL levies $550,000 in fines for allegedly fake Cam Jordan injury on Monday night That’s a tough stance to take. How can the league say they are for player safety and then fine a team for doing something that may be in the players interest. I’m not saying it targets the Saints, but the spirit makes teams and players ignore/aggravate injuries during a game. Rugby Saint II likes this.

12-10-2022, 05:37 PM	#6
Boston Saint 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Nov 2020 Location: Massachusetts Posts: 5,137	Re: NFL levies $550,000 in fines for allegedly fake Cam Jordan injury on Monday night Why don’t they mention the other teams? I just saw a headline flash on my TV screen that says “Saints fined”

12-10-2022, 05:54 PM	#7
K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,838 Blog Entries: 3	Re: NFL levies $550,000 in fines for allegedly fake Cam Jordan injury on Monday night Originally Posted by Boston Saint Why don’t they mention the other teams? I just saw a headline flash on my TV screen that says “Saints fined” Yep. The only other team that I've seen mentioned on the NFL network has been Jessie Bates of the Bengals from last week's game vs the Chiefs. The OTHER 3 ... not much info. leilung, SmashMouth and Boston Saint like this.

12-10-2022, 07:48 PM	#8
BakoSaint 1000 Posts + Join Date: Dec 2018 Posts: 2,400	Re: NFL levies $550,000 in fines for allegedly fake Cam Jordan injury on Monday night Originally Posted by K Major Yep. The only other team that I've seen mentioned on the NFL network has been Jessie Bates of the Bengals from last week's game vs the Chiefs. The OTHER 3 ... not much info. The other three teams kissed Goodell’s cheesy toe ring and said thank you king roger for even letting our small market little city have a team sir, so since the fines were private, they stayed private if the teams did not protest. I wonder if Jordan could appeal this with some federal labor type authorities. I can’t imagine fining a worker for seeking treatment for an injury is legal. OSHA could sanction Goodell and fine him, so not just appeal this fine, fine him! The NFL thinks they have proof because supposedly Jordan gets up and takes a signal from the sideline before down, but its not nearly that simple if you think about it. Most foot injuries only become fully apparent after getting up and taking a few steps. Maybe step one is ouch, step two is darn i felt that again let me pay more attention, and step three is oh thats not good. Meanwhile what doesna defensive captain do probably every play? Look to the sideline for a signal. So logically the normal experience of a foot injury would usually be to get up and notice the injury while looking to the sideline for a signal on the next play. The NFL is a dangerous sport and players accept that but the right to seek treatment when injured at work is a very basic right that I dont think players can or should waive. I think Goodell is probably violating some sort of labor law. Rugby Saint II likes this.
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12-10-2022, 08:24 PM	#9
neugey Hu Dat! Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 6,869 Blog Entries: 13	Re: NFL levies $550,000 in fines for allegedly fake Cam Jordan injury on Monday night Originally Posted by BakoSaint The other three teams kissed Goodell’s cheesy toe ring and said thank you king roger for even letting our small market little city have a team sir, so since the fines were private, they stayed private if the teams did not protest. I wonder if Jordan could appeal this with some federal labor type authorities. I can’t imagine fining a worker for seeking treatment for an injury is legal. OSHA could sanction Goodell and fine him, so not just appeal this fine, fine him! The NFL thinks they have proof because supposedly Jordan gets up and takes a signal from the sideline before down, but its not nearly that simple if you think about it. Most foot injuries only become fully apparent after getting up and taking a few steps. Maybe step one is ouch, step two is darn i felt that again let me pay more attention, and step three is oh thats not good. Meanwhile what doesna defensive captain do probably every play? Look to the sideline for a signal. So logically the normal experience of a foot injury would usually be to get up and notice the injury while looking to the sideline for a signal on the next play. The NFL is a dangerous sport and players accept that but the right to seek treatment when injured at work is a very basic right that I dont think players can or should waive. I think Goodell is probably violating some sort of labor law. I think our best shot is having the NFLPA assert itself and stand up for Jordan and other players who may have legitimate injuries and are in this position to be wrongly accused. NFLPA needs to let the NFL they can't have it both ways with player safety. Rugby Saint II likes this.

12-10-2022, 10:08 PM	#10
BakoSaint 1000 Posts + Join Date: Dec 2018 Posts: 2,400	Re: NFL levies $550,000 in fines for allegedly fake Cam Jordan injury on Monday night Originally Posted by neugey I think our best shot is having the NFLPA assert itself and stand up for Jordan and other players who may have legitimate injuries and are in this position to be wrongly accused. NFLPA needs to let the NFL they can't have it both ways with player safety. The best defense is a good offense. We need to bring the pain to Goodell. The NFL is subject to OSHA regulation. This is the code Goodell and the league office violated. Jordan should file a complaint and then the NFL will be investigated by an authority they didnt choose. 1904.35(b)(1)(iv) You must not discharge or in any manner discriminate against any employee for reporting a work-related injury or illness. Jordan reported to a ref, a league employee supervising his work, that he was injured. The league then fined him $50,000. Rugby Saint II likes this.
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