Saints set to have first losing season since 2016; so, what went wrong?

Rugby Saint II · 12-13-2022, 01:33 PM

Originally Posted by mapcow

Nah...

I only comment on Saints pretend football team..... and then, thats saying a hell of lot!..... Saints pretend football team

jeeez... to think i gave you any credence of credit, but i see you and guido on the same level and share your ignorance;arogance...sad

Seriously?

Rugby Saint II · 12-13-2022, 01:38 PM

I know what went wrong. Sean Payton left and the New Orleans Saints then put Dennis Allen in charge.

mapcow · 12-13-2022, 05:11 PM

Originally Posted by Boston Saint

Now that hurts.

Seriously though map, in what what am I arrogant? I am the one guy admitting I could be wrong.

i could be wrong about you.... but that guido dude. definitely not. hell even a deaf, dumb, and blind idiot can see that about that guido dude.

K Major · 12-13-2022, 05:31 PM

Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II

I know what went wrong. Sean Payton left and the New Orleans Saints then put Dennis Allen in charge.

BakoSaint · 12-14-2022, 12:55 AM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

They aren't going over the cap. They are storing it in easily convertible contract structures. It's there and just as tangible as any other team's caps.

The way its stored is such that whenever a star underperforms, we can never cut them, because the cap hit is always $20 million or more, and then in a couple years when its supposed to be the affordable year to finally part ways, the cap hit is still $20 million or more because the contract has been restructured twice in two years.

I get that the money is tangible. If it wasn’t tangible, Andrus Peat could not buy $15 million a year of twinkies and little debbie with it. I get thats its stores in easily convertible structures, much of it in lipids in Peats stomach. I get that its easily convertible, we can convert Michael Thomas to any position and he will be just as effective at long snapper or defensive tackle because he won’t see the fiekd there either. But the one conversion we cant do is converting cutting expensive players like Thomas into cap savings in the near term, because we are carrying bentley loans on pinto players with this wonderful system dreamed up by an ego mad accountant with no football iq.

bobdog86 · 12-14-2022, 05:36 PM

I think a multitude of issues hurt us this year.
1. Injuries being #1
2. QB suckage....whether due to injuries or poor performances (inconsistencies) whathaveyou.
3. Lack of running game
4. Continued suckage/consistency at TE
5. D line inconsistencies
6. See #1 as affecting 1-5

AsylumGuido · 12-14-2022, 06:04 PM

Originally Posted by bobdog86

I think a multitude of issues hurt us this year.
1. Injuries being #1
2. QB suckage....whether due to injuries or poor performances (inconsistencies) whathaveyou.
3. Lack of running game
4. Continued suckage/consistency at TE
5. D line inconsistencies
6. See #1 as affecting 1-5

Exactly.

AsylumGuido · 12-15-2022, 03:52 PM

Good question. Do ask Pete, Alvin. We'd all like to know.

12-13-2022, 01:33 PM	#31
Rugby Saint II Bounty Money $$$ Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: 5800 Airline Dr. Metairie, LA. Posts: 23,747	Re: Saints set to have first losing season since 2016; so, what went wrong? Originally Posted by mapcow Nah... I only comment on Saints pretend football team..... and then, thats saying a hell of lot!..... Saints pretend football team jeeez... to think i gave you any credence of credit, but i see you and guido on the same level and share your ignorance;arogance...sad Seriously?

12-13-2022, 01:38 PM	#32
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12-13-2022, 05:11 PM	#33
mapcow Just a Fan Join Date: Nov 2009 Posts: 1,335	Re: Saints set to have first losing season since 2016; so, what went wrong? Originally Posted by Boston Saint Now that hurts. Seriously though map, in what what am I arrogant? I am the one guy admitting I could be wrong. i could be wrong about you.... but that guido dude. definitely not. hell even a deaf, dumb, and blind idiot can see that about that guido dude.
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12-13-2022, 05:31 PM	#34
K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,056 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Saints set to have first losing season since 2016; so, what went wrong? Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II I know what went wrong. Sean Payton left and the New Orleans Saints then put Dennis Allen in charge. Rugby Saint II, mapcow, Sinner and 1 others like this.

12-14-2022, 12:55 AM	#35
BakoSaint 1000 Posts + Join Date: Dec 2018 Posts: 1,761	Re: Saints set to have first losing season since 2016; so, what went wrong? Originally Posted by AsylumGuido They aren't going over the cap. They are storing it in easily convertible contract structures. It's there and just as tangible as any other team's caps. The way its stored is such that whenever a star underperforms, we can never cut them, because the cap hit is always $20 million or more, and then in a couple years when its supposed to be the affordable year to finally part ways, the cap hit is still $20 million or more because the contract has been restructured twice in two years. I get that the money is tangible. If it wasn’t tangible, Andrus Peat could not buy $15 million a year of twinkies and little debbie with it. I get thats its stores in easily convertible structures, much of it in lipids in Peats stomach. I get that its easily convertible, we can convert Michael Thomas to any position and he will be just as effective at long snapper or defensive tackle because he won’t see the fiekd there either. But the one conversion we cant do is converting cutting expensive players like Thomas into cap savings in the near term, because we are carrying bentley loans on pinto players with this wonderful system dreamed up by an ego mad accountant with no football iq.
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12-14-2022, 05:36 PM	#36
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