Kamara or Lattimore Trade

AsylumGuido · 12-14-2022, 08:29 AM

Kamara also has the unknown factor of a legal issue. I don't see him having any trade value until that is all behind him.

BakoSaint · 12-14-2022, 09:14 AM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

Kamara also has the unknown factor of a legal issue. I don't see him having any trade value until that is all behind him.

I see Kamara’s legal issues and CMC’s injury history being a wash and their value being similar. CMC’s helth has always been an unknown factor and the Panthers got value. Our best move would have been to trade Kamara before the trade deadline to avoid the suspension issue. But remember, Watson was moved with a pending suspension of a much more heinous nature though Watson is a QB. The other right thing we could do is refuse to restructure Kamara, which gives us an ability to move him after his suspension and before the trade deadline if we are not amazing contenders next year. This also preserves 2024 cap so the cycle of perpetual cap crisis will one day end and we will be able to add players like williams and armstead and hendrickson not lose them one day.

Rugby Saint II · 12-14-2022, 02:11 PM

Originally Posted by SmashMouth

Kamara could make sense at some point. Not Lattimore though.

With the Las Vegas incident looming larger in the court system next year Kamara may not be that attractive for any trade partner. If it is just a late round pick I wouldn't take it.

When and if he is suspended next year and he's still a Saint then we'd better have a Good Power Runner to hold down the fort and then to pair with AK like Ingram used to.

mapcow · 12-14-2022, 10:22 AM

ahh...phuck it.. Lattimore & Kamara (thug) let em both sit the bench and collect. Just like the prima showed them how....

bobdog86 · 12-14-2022, 05:25 PM

Dead money....blah blah blah. Everyone should be made expendable if we are truly in the rebuild mode. Which we should be. If we have to suck for a while then we suck for a while. Half-assing it with unrealistic expectations is no way to go, and is what we are currently doing.

AsylumGuido · 12-14-2022, 06:03 PM

Originally Posted by bobdog86

Dead money....blah blah blah. Everyone should be made expendable if we are truly in the rebuild mode. Which we should be. If we have to suck for a while then we suck for a while. Half-assing it with unrealistic expectations is no way to go, and is what we are currently doing.

Why rebuild when our roster is loaded with really good players? Just for the **** of it?

Sinner · 12-14-2022, 07:09 PM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

Why rebuild when our roster is loaded with really good players? Just for the **** of it?

Just need a Head Coach, and we could begin to bounce back!

BakoSaint · 12-14-2022, 08:29 PM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

Why rebuild when our roster is loaded with really good players? Just for the **** of it?

Because of the ****ing results and that we are losing key players every offseason (hendrickson, williams, armstead) and because our oline is no good and because we need youth but can onky afford limps and war stories. Also we dont bave a qb, the picks to get one, the coaches to teach one, or the line to protect one.

AsylumGuido · 12-15-2022, 08:46 AM

Originally Posted by BakoSaint

Because of the ****ing results and that we are losing key players every offseason (hendrickson, williams, armstead) and because our oline is no good and because we need youth but can onky afford limps and war stories. Also we dont bave a qb, the picks to get one, the coaches to teach one, or the line to protect one.

I don't know if you just simply ignore what's going on with other teams across the league, but virtually all of them lose players to free agency every year.

As for QB, you yourself I believe just pointed out the rarity of getting an "elite" QB with a first round pick anyway. We have the picks to get one, I believe we have the coaches to coach them, and once all of our offensive linemen are off IR, we have the offensive line to protect them.

halloween 65 · 12-16-2022, 06:22 AM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

I don't know if you just simply ignore what's going on with other teams across the league, but virtually all of them lose players to free agency every year.

As for QB, you yourself I believe just pointed out the rarity of getting an "elite" QB with a first round pick anyway. We have the picks to get one, I believe we have the coaches to coach them, and once all of our offensive linemen are off IR, we have the offensive line to protect them.

We don't have a first round pick so unless your suggesting bundling multiple picks like Dicka did for Williams or giving up a 2024 1st + a 2025 1st for a 2023 1st that's not helping, it's hurting. And if you haven't noticed our LOSING record, we don't have the coaches to coach this team. I really don't know where some of your comments come from on here. You really need to look and not just make things up. Payton was a good gambler, Allen is just a gambling loser, there is a huge differnce between those 2 gamblers.

12-14-2022, 08:29 AM	#1
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,671	Re: Kamara or Lattimore Trade Kamara also has the unknown factor of a legal issue. I don't see him having any trade value until that is all behind him. MatthewT and SaintsBro like this.

12-14-2022, 09:14 AM	#2
BakoSaint 1000 Posts + Join Date: Dec 2018 Posts: 2,400	Re: Kamara or Lattimore Trade Originally Posted by AsylumGuido Kamara also has the unknown factor of a legal issue. I don't see him having any trade value until that is all behind him. I see Kamara’s legal issues and CMC’s injury history being a wash and their value being similar. CMC’s helth has always been an unknown factor and the Panthers got value. Our best move would have been to trade Kamara before the trade deadline to avoid the suspension issue. But remember, Watson was moved with a pending suspension of a much more heinous nature though Watson is a QB. The other right thing we could do is refuse to restructure Kamara, which gives us an ability to move him after his suspension and before the trade deadline if we are not amazing contenders next year. This also preserves 2024 cap so the cycle of perpetual cap crisis will one day end and we will be able to add players like williams and armstead and hendrickson not lose them one day.
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12-14-2022, 02:11 PM	#3
Rugby Saint II Bounty Money $$$ Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: 5800 Airline Dr. Metairie, LA. Posts: 24,166	Re: Kamara or Lattimore Trade Originally Posted by SmashMouth Kamara could make sense at some point. Not Lattimore though. With the Las Vegas incident looming larger in the court system next year Kamara may not be that attractive for any trade partner. If it is just a late round pick I wouldn't take it. When and if he is suspended next year and he's still a Saint then we'd better have a Good Power Runner to hold down the fort and then to pair with AK like Ingram used to.

12-14-2022, 10:22 AM	#4
mapcow Just a Fan Join Date: Nov 2009 Posts: 1,819	Re: Kamara or Lattimore Trade ahh...phuck it.. Lattimore & Kamara (thug) let em both sit the bench and collect. Just like the prima showed them how.... Sinner likes this.
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12-14-2022, 05:25 PM	#5
bobdog86 Site Donor Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Washington State Posts: 1,487	Re: Kamara or Lattimore Trade Dead money....blah blah blah. Everyone should be made expendable if we are truly in the rebuild mode. Which we should be. If we have to suck for a while then we suck for a while. Half-assing it with unrealistic expectations is no way to go, and is what we are currently doing.

12-14-2022, 06:03 PM	#6
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,671	Re: Kamara or Lattimore Trade Originally Posted by bobdog86 Dead money....blah blah blah. Everyone should be made expendable if we are truly in the rebuild mode. Which we should be. If we have to suck for a while then we suck for a while. Half-assing it with unrealistic expectations is no way to go, and is what we are currently doing. Why rebuild when our roster is loaded with really good players? Just for the **** of it?

12-14-2022, 07:09 PM	#7
Sinner 1000 Posts + Join Date: Nov 2010 Posts: 4,071	Re: Kamara or Lattimore Trade Originally Posted by AsylumGuido Why rebuild when our roster is loaded with really good players? Just for the **** of it? Just need a Head Coach, and we could begin to bounce back!
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12-14-2022, 08:29 PM	#8
BakoSaint 1000 Posts + Join Date: Dec 2018 Posts: 2,400	Re: Kamara or Lattimore Trade Originally Posted by AsylumGuido Why rebuild when our roster is loaded with really good players? Just for the ** of it? Because of the **ing results and that we are losing key players every offseason (hendrickson, williams, armstead) and because our oline is no good and because we need youth but can onky afford limps and war stories. Also we dont bave a qb, the picks to get one, the coaches to teach one, or the line to protect one.
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12-15-2022, 08:46 AM	#9
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,671	Re: Kamara or Lattimore Trade Originally Posted by BakoSaint Because of the ****ing results and that we are losing key players every offseason (hendrickson, williams, armstead) and because our oline is no good and because we need youth but can onky afford limps and war stories. Also we dont bave a qb, the picks to get one, the coaches to teach one, or the line to protect one. I don't know if you just simply ignore what's going on with other teams across the league, but virtually all of them lose players to free agency every year. As for QB, you yourself I believe just pointed out the rarity of getting an "elite" QB with a first round pick anyway. We have the picks to get one, I believe we have the coaches to coach them, and once all of our offensive linemen are off IR, we have the offensive line to protect them.

12-16-2022, 06:22 AM	#10
halloween 65 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Grand Haven, Michigan by way of a little Mississippi River town in Louisiana Posts: 5,893	Re: Kamara or Lattimore Trade Originally Posted by AsylumGuido I don't know if you just simply ignore what's going on with other teams across the league, but virtually all of them lose players to free agency every year. As for QB, you yourself I believe just pointed out the rarity of getting an "elite" QB with a first round pick anyway. We have the picks to get one, I believe we have the coaches to coach them, and once all of our offensive linemen are off IR, we have the offensive line to protect them. We don't have a first round pick so unless your suggesting bundling multiple picks like Dicka did for Williams or giving up a 2024 1st + a 2025 1st for a 2023 1st that's not helping, it's hurting. And if you haven't noticed our LOSING record, we don't have the coaches to coach this team. I really don't know where some of your comments come from on here. You really need to look and not just make things up. Payton was a good gambler, Allen is just a gambling loser, there is a huge differnce between those 2 gamblers.