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K Major 12-15-2022 03:50 PM
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I'd move Kamara before I moved Lattimore. The shelf life of a RB is short and they're plentiful. DB's are needed more and more in today's NFL. We really need Cam Jordan to retire and get some of that money off the books. I'd take the cap hit to move Peat and maybe even MT at this point.
I've mentioned it a few times this year in game day chats, but AK's body language has been bad.

IMO the stoic look most of the year has been poor due to an ineffective offensive coordinator in Pete Carmichael. What in the hell happened to the screen passes to Alvin :rolleyes:?

I'm not certain what happens on black Monday, however, I do know Pete Carmichael will be a ghost in New Orleans.

AsylumGuido 12-15-2022 03:53 PM
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Originally Posted by K Major (Post 965377)
I've mentioned it a few times this year in game day chats, but AK's body language has been bad.

IMO the stoic look most of the year has been poor due to an ineffective offensive coordinator in Pete Carmichael. What in the hell happened to the screen passes to Alvin :rolleyes:?

I'm not certain what happens on black Monday, however, I do know Pete Carmichael will be a ghost in New Orleans.
I couldn't agree more.

AsylumGuido 12-15-2022 04:47 PM
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halloween 65 12-16-2022 06:22 AM
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Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 965345)
I don't know if you just simply ignore what's going on with other teams across the league, but virtually all of them lose players to free agency every year.

As for QB, you yourself I believe just pointed out the rarity of getting an "elite" QB with a first round pick anyway. We have the picks to get one, I believe we have the coaches to coach them, and once all of our offensive linemen are off IR, we have the offensive line to protect them.
We don't have a first round pick so unless your suggesting bundling multiple picks like Dicka did for Williams or giving up a 2024 1st + a 2025 1st for a 2023 1st that's not helping, it's hurting. And if you haven't noticed our LOSING record, we don't have the coaches to coach this team. I really don't know where some of your comments come from on here. You really need to look and not just make things up. Payton was a good gambler, Allen is just a gambling loser, there is a huge differnce between those 2 gamblers.

halloween 65 12-16-2022 06:26 AM
Re: Kamara or Lattimore Trade
 
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Originally Posted by rezburna (Post 965359)
I'd move Kamara before I moved Lattimore. The shelf life of a RB is short and they're plentiful. DB's are needed more and more in today's NFL. We really need Cam Jordan to retire and get some of that money off the books. I'd take the cap hit to move Peat and maybe even MT at this point.
Jordan doesn't look like the Jordan of old. I don't know what we would net for him now but he still has some value.

AsylumGuido 12-16-2022 07:52 AM
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Originally Posted by halloween 65 (Post 965397)
We don't have a first round pick so unless your suggesting bundling multiple picks like Dicka did for Williams or giving up a 2024 1st + a 2025 1st for a 2023 1st that's not helping, it's hurting. And if you haven't noticed our LOSING record, we don't have the coaches to coach this team. I really don't know where some of your comments come from on here. You really need to look and not just make things up. Payton was a good gambler, Allen is just a gambling loser, there is a huge differnce between those 2 gamblers.
Why do you think you have to have a first rounder to draft a QB? Only one QB (Pickett) was drafted last year in the first round and he wasn't taken until pick 20. The second QB (Ridder) wasn't taken until the 74th pick in the entire draft. The QB (Purdy) that has shown the most success wasn't taken until the final pick (#262) in the draft.

90% of QB's drafted never become regular starters regardless of what round they are selected. Even a smaller percent of those will become elite. It may take several years worth of picks to find our next long time starter. I believe you, and many others, are too fixated on a single pick from next year. There is a far better chance that Olave and Penning will be contributing to the Saints success years into the future than any QB would be drafted with the traded 2023 pick.

halloween 65 12-16-2022 05:15 PM
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Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 965399)
Why do you think you have to have a first rounder to draft a QB? Only one QB (Pickett) was drafted last year in the first round and he wasn't taken until pick 20. The second QB (Ridder) wasn't taken until the 74th pick in the entire draft. The QB (Purdy) that has shown the most success wasn't taken until the final pick (#262) in the draft.

90% of QB's drafted never become regular starters regardless of what round they are selected. Even a smaller percent of those will become elite. It may take several years worth of picks to find our next long time starter. I believe you, and many others, are too fixated on a single pick from next year. There is a far better chance that Olave and Penning will be contributing to the Saints success years into the future than any QB would be drafted with the traded 2023 pick.
Like Brady, right, 199 I believe, don't quote me on that, but I might could see one drafted. I could see one starting a trial by fire.That way the coach is off the hook for the season. Pointing fingers , laying blame, you get the drift!! But what I can't see is who would develope him, do you? One has to have a game plan or waist draft picks, you know!!

AsylumGuido 12-16-2022 05:46 PM
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Originally Posted by halloween 65 (Post 965426)
Like Brady, right, 199 I believe, don't quote me on that, but I might could see one drafted. I could see one starting a trial by fire.That way the coach is off the hook for the season. Pointing fingers , laying blame, you get the drift!! But what I can't see is who would develope him, do you? One has to have a game plan or waist draft picks, you know!!
You just described Sean Payton.

And I fully expect us to draft a QB. I hope we draft one every year until we find the long term answer.

halloween 65 12-16-2022 06:49 PM
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Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 965430)
You just described Sean Payton.

And I fully expect us to draft a QB. I hope we draft one every year until we find the long term answer.
no man!! Payton had Brees. Payton didn't draft a starting qb, he took a chance Brees was health, he won.

AsylumGuido 12-16-2022 07:17 PM
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Originally Posted by halloween 65 (Post 965431)
no man!! Payton had Brees. Payton didn't draft a starting qb, he took a chance Brees was health, he won.
He took a chance. Same thing in the draft. You take a chance. Nobody knows if they'll be successful or not. Odds are they won't.


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