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this is a discussion within the Saints Community Forum; If SP was successful with his QB choices with Romo, Brees, etc, why was he unsuccessful subsequently other than backup QBs? What changed in his evaluations ?...
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12-17-2022, 09:55 AM | #31 |
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If SP was successful with his QB choices with Romo, Brees, etc, why was he unsuccessful subsequently other than backup QBs? What changed in his evaluations ?
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12-17-2022, 01:01 PM | #32 |
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Re: Kamara or Lattimore Trade
Originally Posted by SmashMouth
Drew was a chance happening and I’m betting, with his motor, he would have been successful wherever he went.
Romo didn’t start until 2006 (Sean was here). It’s worth noting that Romo went undrafted in spite of Peyton telling him how interested Dallas was. In 2003 he was 3rd on the depth chart, in 2004 he was nearly cut. Meaning that he would have not been Sean’s priority. I’m going to go way out on a limb here and surmise that even though Sean Payton was a QB coach for a couple of teams and never for more than 2-3 years that he may be able to spot a needle in the haystack but has no talent directly attributed to his mentoring. Add to that a failure to develop a successor to Drew and the sh1t-show he left our QB unit in, we give him credit for being a lot better developer than he actually is. I like him a lot as a coach but this is undeniable. |
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12-17-2022, 01:17 PM | #33 |
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Drew Brees was a number one draft pick who was just a little short and Tony Romo just needed someone to explain the game to him I believe. Maybe Sean Payton is a quarterback Guru. Maybe not. He was inefficient with mid and late round draft picks that had little to no value. Is that his fault?
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12-17-2022, 09:38 PM | #34 |
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Its also relevent that Winston was 15:3 TD:INT under Payton and Teddy Bildgewater was 5-0 or something. I attribute Hill’s success with Payton mostly to defense and run blocking but still. Basically Payton can take QBs with clear talent who had been hit and miss with other teams like Brees, Winston, and Bridgewater and make them. More consistent and elevate their play. But he also thinks he can elevate absolute nobodies like Semien and Book and all his draft busts and all our 2021 receivers and he cant do that. Payton might be able to fix a Winston or Mayfield or Darnold or Wentz. But he is not fixing Ian Book or whatever, he cant see when there is nothing to salvage. Maybe he will take Trainwreck Smith and Taysom Hill off our hands. Payton needs a strong GM to achieve his full potential but will probably demand full control or a yes man so he can blow resources on dumb projects.
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12-18-2022, 10:27 AM | #35 |
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Re: Kamara or Lattimore Trade
Originally Posted by AsylumGuido
uhh.... drew had proven himself already. he got hurt, manned up; unlike, another play...err, prima donna... and showed the charger's they phucked up and decided to go with Rivers...
No "Chance" here, ...... rumor starter. |
12-18-2022, 04:28 PM | #36 |
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Originally Posted by BakoSaint
Not quite sure we could absorb that type of hit. I say stand pat and find a way to get a qb next year. Maybe MT will play a few games which should help. We get a qb we are a 9-10 win team.
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12-18-2022, 06:48 PM | #37 |
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Come on mapcow. The “chance” was going with a proven QB who suffered what would have been a career ending injury to a lot of players. The chance in not knowing if he would be successful had nothing to do with his talents but whether he could perform at a high level after the injury. So yes it was a chance and it paid off.
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12-19-2022, 10:24 AM | #39 |
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SP can judge a QB already in the league but not coming out of college.
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12-19-2022, 10:30 AM | #40 |
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