Drew Brees says 'your heart hurts' watching Saints' disappointing season fall to 4-9

Boston Saint · 12-23-2022, 11:40 AM

Originally Posted by Sinner

I didn't. With a prime Brees, and even a sub-prime Brees, and Sean Payton at the helm, there was always a good chance that we could turn things around.

Fair enough. I was aware enough to realize that what was going on back then with their offense and the way Brees played we were dealing with a special player that we were likely never going to see again. Having 4 years spoiled like that with 7 win seasons when you KNEW the team was capable of so much more was crushing to me. In those years the saints Ds were ranked 31, 28, 32 and 31. Any decent support from the D and they are contenders. THAT sounds like some bad coaching to me.

But I respect you being more disappointed by this years team that had injuries to starters at QB, OL, WR, LB, CB, and RB.

Sinner · 12-23-2022, 11:44 AM

Originally Posted by Boston Saint

Fair enough. I was aware enough to realize that what was going on back then with their offense and the way Brees played we were dealing with a special player that we were likely never going to see again. Having 4 years spoiled like that with 7 win seasons when you KNEW the team was capable of so much more was crushing to me. In those years the saints Ds were ranked 31, 28, 32 and 31. Any decent support from the D and they are contenders. THAT sounds like some bad coaching to me.

But I respect you being more disappointed by this years team that had injuries to starters at QB, OL, WR, LB, CB, and RB.

We never had a "starting"- caliber QB this year - and all the other positions are so poorly coached and trained/conditioned, we never had a chance. Many of us saw this coming. Need a totally clean house to even get close to our former glory. With this "Management", that might take a few years.

Boston Saint · 12-23-2022, 11:50 AM

Originally Posted by Sinner

We never had a "starting"- caliber QB this year - and all the other positions are so poorly coached and trained/conditioned, we never had a chance. Many of us saw this coming. Need a totally clean house to even get close to our former glory. With this "Management", that might take a few years.

You saw injuries to all those starting positions? Wow! No wonder you were disappointed. Can you tell me next week’s lotto numbers?

Sinner · 12-23-2022, 11:55 AM

Originally Posted by Boston Saint

You saw injuries to all those starting positions? Wow! No wonder you were disappointed. Can you tell me next week’s lotto numbers?

I can't help you with the lotto numbers, but I can TRY to help you understand that injuries happen all over the league, just as bad calls and fumbles and false starts and all kinds of mishaps and mistakes happen to every team. THIS TEAM, THIS YEAR, (and possibly for years to come) is in trouble, unless we totally clean house.

Boston Saint · 12-23-2022, 04:25 PM

Originally Posted by Sinner

I can't help you with the lotto numbers, but I can TRY to help you understand that injuries happen all over the league, just as bad calls and fumbles and false starts and all kinds of mishaps and mistakes happen to every team. THIS TEAM, THIS YEAR, (and possibly for years to come) is in trouble, unless we totally clean house.

I can understand injuries have hit this years and last years teams at rates that were out of the ordinary. People that have watched this team and covered them professionally for years, like Underhill, have pointed it out. You ignore this fact because it doesn’t suit your narrative.

Sinner · 12-23-2022, 05:20 PM

Originally Posted by Boston Saint

I can understand injuries have hit this years and last years teams at rates that were out of the ordinary. People that have watched this team and covered them professionally for years, like Underhill, have pointed it out. You ignore this fact because it doesn’t suit your narrative.

FACT: THIS TEAM, THIS YEAR, (and possibly for years to come) is in trouble, unless we totally clean house.

Boston Saint · 12-23-2022, 05:39 PM

Originally Posted by Sinner

FACT: THIS TEAM, THIS YEAR, (and possibly for years to come) is in trouble, unless we totally clean house.

Ok. It seems you and I don’t agree on what the definition of the word “fact” is.

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Boston Saint · 12-23-2022, 06:09 PM

Originally Posted by Sinner

FACT: THIS TEAM, THIS YEAR, (and possibly for years to come) is in trouble, unless we totally clean house.

Ok, so here is a lesson on facts. It is a fact to say that the Saints will have at least 9 losses at the end of this year.

It is a fact to say the Saints are mathematically alive to win the SB.

Saying the saints are in “Trouble” is NOT a fact because you haven’t defined what trouble is. if you asked Falcons fans if we were in “trouble” they would say we aren’t in trouble at all. They like where we are.

Is this a joke? Do you really not know the difference between fact and opinion??!!! Did they not teach that when you went to school?

12-23-2022, 11:40 AM	#1
Boston Saint 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Nov 2020 Location: Massachusetts Posts: 5,137	Re: Drew Brees says 'your heart hurts' watching Saints' disappointing season fall to 4-9 Originally Posted by Sinner I didn't. With a prime Brees, and even a sub-prime Brees, and Sean Payton at the helm, there was always a good chance that we could turn things around. Fair enough. I was aware enough to realize that what was going on back then with their offense and the way Brees played we were dealing with a special player that we were likely never going to see again. Having 4 years spoiled like that with 7 win seasons when you KNEW the team was capable of so much more was crushing to me. In those years the saints Ds were ranked 31, 28, 32 and 31. Any decent support from the D and they are contenders. THAT sounds like some bad coaching to me. But I respect you being more disappointed by this years team that had injuries to starters at QB, OL, WR, LB, CB, and RB.
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12-23-2022, 11:44 AM	#2
Sinner 1000 Posts + Join Date: Nov 2010 Posts: 4,068	Re: Drew Brees says 'your heart hurts' watching Saints' disappointing season fall to 4-9 Originally Posted by Boston Saint Fair enough. I was aware enough to realize that what was going on back then with their offense and the way Brees played we were dealing with a special player that we were likely never going to see again. Having 4 years spoiled like that with 7 win seasons when you KNEW the team was capable of so much more was crushing to me. In those years the saints Ds were ranked 31, 28, 32 and 31. Any decent support from the D and they are contenders. THAT sounds like some bad coaching to me. But I respect you being more disappointed by this years team that had injuries to starters at QB, OL, WR, LB, CB, and RB. We never had a "starting"- caliber QB this year - and all the other positions are so poorly coached and trained/conditioned, we never had a chance. Many of us saw this coming. Need a totally clean house to even get close to our former glory. With this "Management", that might take a few years.
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12-23-2022, 11:50 AM	#3
Boston Saint 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Nov 2020 Location: Massachusetts Posts: 5,137	Re: Drew Brees says 'your heart hurts' watching Saints' disappointing season fall to 4-9 Originally Posted by Sinner We never had a "starting"- caliber QB this year - and all the other positions are so poorly coached and trained/conditioned, we never had a chance. Many of us saw this coming. Need a totally clean house to even get close to our former glory. With this "Management", that might take a few years. You saw injuries to all those starting positions? Wow! No wonder you were disappointed. Can you tell me next week’s lotto numbers?

12-23-2022, 11:55 AM	#4
Sinner 1000 Posts + Join Date: Nov 2010 Posts: 4,068	Re: Drew Brees says 'your heart hurts' watching Saints' disappointing season fall to 4-9 Originally Posted by Boston Saint You saw injuries to all those starting positions? Wow! No wonder you were disappointed. Can you tell me next week’s lotto numbers? I can't help you with the lotto numbers, but I can TRY to help you understand that injuries happen all over the league, just as bad calls and fumbles and false starts and all kinds of mishaps and mistakes happen to every team. THIS TEAM, THIS YEAR, (and possibly for years to come) is in trouble, unless we totally clean house.
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12-23-2022, 04:25 PM	#5
Boston Saint 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Nov 2020 Location: Massachusetts Posts: 5,137	Re: Drew Brees says 'your heart hurts' watching Saints' disappointing season fall to 4-9 Originally Posted by Sinner I can't help you with the lotto numbers, but I can TRY to help you understand that injuries happen all over the league, just as bad calls and fumbles and false starts and all kinds of mishaps and mistakes happen to every team. THIS TEAM, THIS YEAR, (and possibly for years to come) is in trouble, unless we totally clean house. I can understand injuries have hit this years and last years teams at rates that were out of the ordinary. People that have watched this team and covered them professionally for years, like Underhill, have pointed it out. You ignore this fact because it doesn’t suit your narrative.

12-23-2022, 05:20 PM	#6
Sinner 1000 Posts + Join Date: Nov 2010 Posts: 4,068	Re: Drew Brees says 'your heart hurts' watching Saints' disappointing season fall to 4-9 Originally Posted by Boston Saint I can understand injuries have hit this years and last years teams at rates that were out of the ordinary. People that have watched this team and covered them professionally for years, like Underhill, have pointed it out. You ignore this fact because it doesn’t suit your narrative. FACT: THIS TEAM, THIS YEAR, (and possibly for years to come) is in trouble, unless we totally clean house.
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12-23-2022, 06:09 PM	#8
Boston Saint 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Nov 2020 Location: Massachusetts Posts: 5,137	Re: Drew Brees says 'your heart hurts' watching Saints' disappointing season fall to 4-9 Originally Posted by Sinner FACT: THIS TEAM, THIS YEAR, (and possibly for years to come) is in trouble, unless we totally clean house. Ok, so here is a lesson on facts. It is a fact to say that the Saints will have at least 9 losses at the end of this year. It is a fact to say the Saints are mathematically alive to win the SB. Saying the saints are in “Trouble” is NOT a fact because you haven’t defined what trouble is. if you asked Falcons fans if we were in “trouble” they would say we aren’t in trouble at all. They like where we are. Is this a joke? Do you really not know the difference between fact and opinion??!!! Did they not teach that when you went to school?
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