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You can play ping-pong with semantics all day long, make it personal if you like, call people haters, point fingers at fumbles, false starts, bad breaks, bad calls, but at the end of the day, and at the end of the Season, we can agree that we all watched our team NOT DO SO WELL (putting it mildly) - It is my OPINION that the team needs to be completely restructured, so that I can watch my team have a WINNING SEASON - and I know I'm not the only one who feels this way.

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You're not the only one. Not sure a complete overhaul is in order, however. Many are open to it. And I wouldn't reproach them one bit.

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THANK YOU. It's just that time of year for me.

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NFL's BLACK Monday is quickly approaching.

I know Pete C is gone but the real question is if DA is "one and done" in N.O.?

This may be comparing apples to oranges but I do remember Van Gundy (Pels) was gone after one season ... so, there's that.

I'm just a casual couch fan, so what the hell do I know :smokin:.

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As a fellow casual couch fan, I can say that we know that we tune in to watch our team WIN, unless we are masochists. Imagine that...

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I think if the Saints win one more game, DA will be here at least for some of next season. He may have already secured that now. Idk.

The Saints have lost some very winnable games. I think the next couple of weeks are gonna be interesting.

No matter what I hope they win. Good hell, the more games we win the further down the 1st round pick we gave Philly falls. That in itself is reason for me to cheer. Lol.

And I really don’t want Tom Brady going to the playoffs. I’d rather see Carolina. Lol.

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Do we need the titty bar moho grigri?

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Exactly why I have completely tuned out Sinner and close to doing the same with Bako.

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Same ownership, so we know Mrs. Benson is willing to make a move like that if she feels it is necessary.

I just hope if they do make the move they have someone lined up. I hate it when people who want the coach fired say, "anyone would be better". No. It can ALWAYS get worse.

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you are like one of those facebook creeps that always announce they are leaving but never do :rofl: you must be a lib as well. :rofl:

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I don't think Gayle is nearly as personally invested into the Pels as she is with the Saints.

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LMFAO

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Yes sir!!! Always! :broccoli:

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Respectfully disagree. I had always heard that the Pelicans were an after thought to Tom Benson, but not Gayle. She was involved with the rebranding and as owner made sure the Pels had there own resources and didn't have to share them with the Saints. (trainers, etc.)

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guido :rofl:

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IMO Dennis Allen was a lazy Saints HC hire.

I think it was either Kevin or Underhill mention on their podcast that Dennis is currently 1-18 vs teams with winning records. Our best win this year was against Seattle & they are currently under .500.

Not sure what some are honestly looking for in Allen as Head Coach. Not sure how much worse it can get.

Essentially he's a P.E. teacher (solid DC) who's pretending to be a Chemistry or Math teacher & damn near everyone in the class is failing :rolleyes:

Good luck vs a pissed-off Philly team still playing for a 1st round bye & home-field advantage in the playoffs.

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I can understand that. She is no doubt professionally invested in the Pelicans, but my meaning of "personally invested" was directed more toward personal relationships. She has shared on multiple occasions that she viewed both Payton and Loomis as sons and I understand that she has developed a strong personal relationship with Dennis Allen and his family, as well. I don't believe anything near that existed with a one and done Pelicans coach.

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"Dennis Allen was a lazy Saints HC hire." <<<FACT.

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Dennis Allen won two in a row. Unfortunately, that means he'll be sticking around. Maybe. Just maybe Dennis Allen will do better with an innovative offensive coordinator.

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Fun fact: It only took Dennis 4 seasons to get back-to-back wins :brood:.

Wow, just wow.

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Wtf really?

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Give him 4 more, and he just might do it again. I'm gonna need more than aspirin, cigs, and booze to make it through even 1 more like this one.

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It took his players four seasons to win back-to-back games. I haven't seen Allen take a snap all season.

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So you're saying that 4 seasons worth of mediocrity from teams he's coached, has absolutely nothing to do with him and everything to do with the players? Lol

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Nope. Not at all. Just like four seasons worth of mediocrity didn't have everything to do with him and nothing to do with the players. I'll repeat, I don't think that Dennis Allen can hold Payton's jockstrap when it comes to being a head coach, but everything doesn't fall on his shoulders. There's some things that are beyond a head coaches control ... like injuries to key positions.

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Carmichael definitely needs to go.

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Brother Diz,

I wouldn't even waste my time debating with certain posters here.

Some people simply can't see the forest for the trees :rolleyes:.

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And some people can only see an individual tree without considering it is just a part of the forest. Go figure.

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Bottom line is, we’re probably stuck with DA at least to start next season. Idk how short the leash will be, but I would be surprised if he doesn’t get to start the season as the HC, even if we lose our last 2 games.

So I’ll just hope for the best and expect less than average performance.

SP really had us spoiled. Especially those of us that have been watching this team for 3 or more decades. Look if the guy can put together a 10 win season next year, fine. I might bite. But I don’t have much faith in him right now.

It certainly wouldn’t hurt if he was some how able to win against the Eagles and Panthers the next week. And beating the Eagles is no easy task. But it would earn some confidence going into the off season.

God knows if the Saints had their record and they had ours, as Saints fans, we’d all be ****ting bricks about this game. Lol.

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It's the HEAD COACH. What part of the forest is that? What tree?