Observations from the Saints' win vs Browns

K Major · 12-27-2022, 11:36 AM

Originally Posted by Sinner

THANK YOU. It's just that time of year for me.

NFL's BLACK Monday is quickly approaching.

I know Pete C is gone but the real question is if DA is "one and done" in N.O.?

This may be comparing apples to oranges but I do remember Van Gundy (Pels) was gone after one season ... so, there's that.

I'm just a casual couch fan, so what the hell do I know

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SmashMouth · 12-27-2022, 12:05 PM

Originally Posted by K Major

NFL's BLACK Monday is quickly approaching.

I know Pete C is gone but the real question is if DA is "one and done" in N.O.?

This may be comparing apples to oranges but I do remember Van Gundy (Pels) was gone after one season ... so, there's that.

I'm just a casual couch fan, so what the hell do I know .

Sinner · 12-27-2022, 12:16 PM

Originally Posted by K Major

NFL's BLACK Monday is quickly approaching.

I know Pete C is gone but the real question is if DA is "one and done" in N.O.?

This may be comparing apples to oranges but I do remember Van Gundy (Pels) was gone after one season ... so, there's that.

I'm just a casual couch fan, so what the hell do I know .

As a fellow casual couch fan, I can say that we know that we tune in to watch our team WIN, unless we are masochists. Imagine that...

stickman · 12-28-2022, 01:41 PM

Originally Posted by K Major

This may be comparing apples to oranges but I do remember Van Gundy (Pels) was gone after one season ... so, there's that.

Same ownership, so we know Mrs. Benson is willing to make a move like that if she feels it is necessary.

I just hope if they do make the move they have someone lined up. I hate it when people who want the coach fired say, "anyone would be better". No. It can ALWAYS get worse.

AsylumGuido · 12-28-2022, 01:45 PM

Originally Posted by stickman

Same ownership, so we know Mrs. Benson is willing to make a move like that if she feels it is necessary.

I just hope if they do make the move they have someone lined up. I hate it when people who want the coach fired say, "anyone would be better". No. It can ALWAYS get worse.

I don't think Gayle is nearly as personally invested into the Pels as she is with the Saints.

stickman · 12-29-2022, 06:34 AM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

I don't think Gayle is nearly as personally invested into the Pels as she is with the Saints.

Respectfully disagree. I had always heard that the Pelicans were an after thought to Tom Benson, but not Gayle. She was involved with the rebranding and as owner made sure the Pels had there own resources and didn't have to share them with the Saints. (trainers, etc.)

mapcow · 12-29-2022, 09:32 AM

Originally Posted by stickman

Respectfully disagree. I had always heard that the Pelicans were an after thought to Tom Benson, but not Gayle. She was involved with the rebranding and as owner made sure the Pels had there own resources and didn't have to share them with the Saints. (trainers, etc.)

guido

AsylumGuido · 12-29-2022, 10:09 AM

Originally Posted by stickman

Respectfully disagree. I had always heard that the Pelicans were an after thought to Tom Benson, but not Gayle. She was involved with the rebranding and as owner made sure the Pels had there own resources and didn't have to share them with the Saints. (trainers, etc.)

I can understand that. She is no doubt professionally invested in the Pelicans, but my meaning of "personally invested" was directed more toward personal relationships. She has shared on multiple occasions that she viewed both Payton and Loomis as sons and I understand that she has developed a strong personal relationship with Dennis Allen and his family, as well. I don't believe anything near that existed with a one and done Pelicans coach.

K Major · 12-29-2022, 09:36 AM

Originally Posted by stickman

Same ownership, so we know Mrs. Benson is willing to make a move like that if she feels it is necessary.

I just hope if they do make the move they have someone lined up. I hate it when people who want the coach fired say, "anyone would be better". No. It can ALWAYS get worse.

IMO Dennis Allen was a lazy Saints HC hire.

I think it was either Kevin or Underhill mention on their podcast that Dennis is currently 1-18 vs teams with winning records. Our best win this year was against Seattle & they are currently under .500.

Not sure what some are honestly looking for in Allen as Head Coach. Not sure how much worse it can get.

Essentially he's a P.E. teacher (solid DC) who's pretending to be a Chemistry or Math teacher & damn near everyone in the class is failing

Good luck vs a pissed-off Philly team still playing for a 1st round bye & home-field advantage in the playoffs.

Sinner · 12-29-2022, 10:49 AM

Originally Posted by K Major

IMO Dennis Allen was a lazy Saints HC hire.

I think it was either Kevin or Underhill mention on their podcast that Dennis is currently 1-18 vs teams with winning records. Our best win this year was against Seattle & they are currently under .500.

Not sure what some are honestly looking for in Allen as Head Coach. Not sure how much worse it can get.

Essentially he's a P.E. teacher (solid DC) who's pretending to be a Chemistry or Math teacher & damn near everyone in the class is failing

Good luck vs a pissed-off Philly team still playing for a 1st round bye & home-field advantage in the playoffs.

"Dennis Allen was a lazy Saints HC hire." <<<FACT.

12-27-2022, 11:36 AM	#1
K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,799 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Observations from the Saints' win vs Browns Originally Posted by Sinner THANK YOU. It's just that time of year for me. NFL's BLACK Monday is quickly approaching. I know Pete C is gone but the real question is if DA is "one and done" in N.O.? This may be comparing apples to oranges but I do remember Van Gundy (Pels) was gone after one season ... so, there's that. I'm just a casual couch fan, so what the hell do I know . SmashMouth and Sinner like this.

12-27-2022, 12:05 PM	#2
SmashMouth I donated, did you? Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Mandeville, LA Posts: 38,554 Blog Entries: 29	Re: Observations from the Saints' win vs Browns Originally Posted by K Major NFL's BLACK Monday is quickly approaching. I know Pete C is gone but the real question is if DA is "one and done" in N.O.? This may be comparing apples to oranges but I do remember Van Gundy (Pels) was gone after one season ... so, there's that. I'm just a casual couch fan, so what the hell do I know . Sinner and K Major like this.

12-27-2022, 12:16 PM	#3
Sinner 1000 Posts + Join Date: Nov 2010 Posts: 4,065	Re: Observations from the Saints' win vs Browns Originally Posted by K Major NFL's BLACK Monday is quickly approaching. I know Pete C is gone but the real question is if DA is "one and done" in N.O.? This may be comparing apples to oranges but I do remember Van Gundy (Pels) was gone after one season ... so, there's that. I'm just a casual couch fan, so what the hell do I know . As a fellow casual couch fan, I can say that we know that we tune in to watch our team WIN, unless we are masochists. Imagine that... SmashMouth and K Major like this.
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12-28-2022, 01:41 PM	#4
stickman 1000 Posts + Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: Gonzales, LA Posts: 1,765	Re: Observations from the Saints' win vs Browns Originally Posted by K Major This may be comparing apples to oranges but I do remember Van Gundy (Pels) was gone after one season ... so, there's that. Same ownership, so we know Mrs. Benson is willing to make a move like that if she feels it is necessary. I just hope if they do make the move they have someone lined up. I hate it when people who want the coach fired say, "anyone would be better". No. It can ALWAYS get worse. iceshack149 likes this.

12-28-2022, 01:45 PM	#5
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,574	Re: Observations from the Saints' win vs Browns Originally Posted by stickman Same ownership, so we know Mrs. Benson is willing to make a move like that if she feels it is necessary. I just hope if they do make the move they have someone lined up. I hate it when people who want the coach fired say, "anyone would be better". No. It can ALWAYS get worse. I don't think Gayle is nearly as personally invested into the Pels as she is with the Saints. Rugby Saint II likes this.

12-29-2022, 06:34 AM	#6
stickman 1000 Posts + Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: Gonzales, LA Posts: 1,765	Re: Observations from the Saints' win vs Browns Originally Posted by AsylumGuido I don't think Gayle is nearly as personally invested into the Pels as she is with the Saints. Respectfully disagree. I had always heard that the Pelicans were an after thought to Tom Benson, but not Gayle. She was involved with the rebranding and as owner made sure the Pels had there own resources and didn't have to share them with the Saints. (trainers, etc.) K Major likes this.

12-29-2022, 09:32 AM	#7
mapcow Just a Fan Join Date: Nov 2009 Posts: 1,818	Re: Observations from the Saints' win vs Browns Originally Posted by stickman Respectfully disagree. I had always heard that the Pelicans were an after thought to Tom Benson, but not Gayle. She was involved with the rebranding and as owner made sure the Pels had there own resources and didn't have to share them with the Saints. (trainers, etc.) guido
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12-29-2022, 10:09 AM	#8
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,574	Re: Observations from the Saints' win vs Browns Originally Posted by stickman Respectfully disagree. I had always heard that the Pelicans were an after thought to Tom Benson, but not Gayle. She was involved with the rebranding and as owner made sure the Pels had there own resources and didn't have to share them with the Saints. (trainers, etc.) I can understand that. She is no doubt professionally invested in the Pelicans, but my meaning of "personally invested" was directed more toward personal relationships. She has shared on multiple occasions that she viewed both Payton and Loomis as sons and I understand that she has developed a strong personal relationship with Dennis Allen and his family, as well. I don't believe anything near that existed with a one and done Pelicans coach.

12-29-2022, 09:36 AM	#9
K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,799 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Observations from the Saints' win vs Browns Originally Posted by stickman Same ownership, so we know Mrs. Benson is willing to make a move like that if she feels it is necessary. I just hope if they do make the move they have someone lined up. I hate it when people who want the coach fired say, "anyone would be better". No. It can ALWAYS get worse. IMO Dennis Allen was a lazy Saints HC hire. I think it was either Kevin or Underhill mention on their podcast that Dennis is currently 1-18 vs teams with winning records. Our best win this year was against Seattle & they are currently under .500. Not sure what some are honestly looking for in Allen as Head Coach. Not sure how much worse it can get. Essentially he's a P.E. teacher (solid DC) who's pretending to be a Chemistry or Math teacher & damn near everyone in the class is failing Good luck vs a pissed-off Philly team still playing for a 1st round bye & home-field advantage in the playoffs. iceshack149, dizzle88 and Sinner like this.

12-29-2022, 10:49 AM	#10
Sinner 1000 Posts + Join Date: Nov 2010 Posts: 4,065	Re: Observations from the Saints' win vs Browns Originally Posted by K Major IMO Dennis Allen was a lazy Saints HC hire. I think it was either Kevin or Underhill mention on their podcast that Dennis is currently 1-18 vs teams with winning records. Our best win this year was against Seattle & they are currently under .500. Not sure what some are honestly looking for in Allen as Head Coach. Not sure how much worse it can get. Essentially he's a P.E. teacher (solid DC) who's pretending to be a Chemistry or Math teacher & damn near everyone in the class is failing Good luck vs a pissed-off Philly team still playing for a 1st round bye & home-field advantage in the playoffs. "Dennis Allen was a lazy Saints HC hire." <<<FACT.
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