Marcus Davenport

K Major · 12-27-2022, 12:21 PM

Originally Posted by leilung

I know some people have defended Loomis and his 'kick the can' method of cap management, but that's the problem with stealing from Peter to pay Paul...

Sooner or later, you end up with a sore Peter!

This is true my friend.

SmashMouth · 12-27-2022, 12:32 PM

Originally Posted by BakoSaint

I would offer him $4.5-6mil/yr. Thats what his production and availability is worth. If he gets a lot more I hope and pray its a division rival who is the sucker. Andrus Peat 2.0 on defense.

Actually not a bad comparison , come to think of it ...except Davenport has cost more in terms of draft picks, pinky or no pinky .

halloween 65 · 12-27-2022, 05:46 PM

Originally Posted by BakoSaint

I would offer him $4.5-6mil/yr. Thats what his production and availability is worth. If he gets a lot more I hope and pray its a division rival who is the sucker. Andrus Peat 2.0 on defense.

I would extend him. For how long I'm not sure but not on a 4 yr.

gulfgambler · 12-27-2022, 06:27 PM

Cut bait
Only plays 1/2 to 3/4 of games each year
When he's "healthy" rarely lives up to the hype
Cost 2 no.1 picks, dudes stealing money

K Major · 12-27-2022, 06:54 PM

Hmm.

I'd bring MD back for 2023. His sack totals aren't higher, but among other things, his pressure rate is on par with 2021.

The coverage and safety play were below average compared to a year ago. The former has gotten better in recent weeks, but losing Latt has hurt a lot, and I believe that's why the number of defensive line sacks has decreased.

It would be less expensive (see post #5) to bring him back for a year.

BakoSaint · 12-28-2022, 03:35 PM

Originally Posted by K Major

Hmm.

I'd bring MD back for 2023. His sack totals aren't higher, but among other things, his pressure rate is on par with 2021.

The coverage and safety play were below average compared to a year ago. The former has gotten better in recent weeks, but losing Latt has hurt a lot, and I believe that's why the number of defensive line sacks has decreased.

It would be less expensive (see post #5) to bring him back for a year.

Kind of like how its less expensive to put a $250 downpayment on a $2000 tv than to buy a $400 tv in cash. Less expensive using Loomis’ short term logic, more expensive in reality in the long term. Loomis will always put dead money at the end of deals but we can’t just extend all our bad contracts forever.

Rugby Saint II · 12-28-2022, 03:41 PM

I'd like to put the franchise tag on Marcus Davenport for 2023. Maybe he'll have a healthy year where he produces and finally lives up to his potential. Otherwise, we can let him walk and get the compensatory pick. I believe that that is where he gives us our most value. I really thought we were going to start playing the compensatory game now but it looks like we're just going to keep extending these guys and plunging into further cap hell.

saintsfan1976 · 12-28-2022, 06:47 PM

Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II

I'd like to put the franchise tag on Marcus Davenport for 2023. Maybe he'll have a healthy year where he produces and finally lives up to his potential. Otherwise, we can let him walk and get the compensatory pick. I believe that that is where he gives us our most value. I really thought we were going to start playing the compensatory game now but it looks like we're just going to keep extending these guys and plunging into further cap hell.

'23 Franchise Tag for DE: $20,167,000 (second only behind QB)

You really think that's in our best interest?

Rugby Saint II · 12-29-2022, 11:43 AM

Originally Posted by saintsfan1976

'23 Franchise Tag for DE: $20,167,000 (second only behind QB)

You really think that's in our best interest?

Well, not now I don't!

K Major · 01-09-2023, 10:01 AM

What happened to Davenport in 2022?

0.5 sacks & 0 FFs. Wow!

Stats

12-27-2022, 12:21 PM	#11
K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,619 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Marcus Davenport Originally Posted by leilung I know some people have defended Loomis and his 'kick the can' method of cap management, but that's the problem with stealing from Peter to pay Paul... Sooner or later, you end up with a sore Peter! This is true my friend. SmashMouth likes this.

12-27-2022, 12:32 PM	#12
SmashMouth I donated, did you? Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Mandeville, LA Posts: 38,125 Blog Entries: 29	Re: Marcus Davenport Originally Posted by BakoSaint I would offer him $4.5-6mil/yr. Thats what his production and availability is worth. If he gets a lot more I hope and pray its a division rival who is the sucker. Andrus Peat 2.0 on defense. Actually not a bad comparison , come to think of it ...except Davenport has cost more in terms of draft picks, pinky or no pinky . Rsanders24 likes this.

12-27-2022, 05:46 PM	#13
halloween 65 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Grand Haven, Michigan by way of a little Mississippi River town in Louisiana Posts: 5,893	Re: Marcus Davenport Originally Posted by BakoSaint I would offer him $4.5-6mil/yr. Thats what his production and availability is worth. If he gets a lot more I hope and pray its a division rival who is the sucker. Andrus Peat 2.0 on defense. I would extend him. For how long I'm not sure but not on a 4 yr.

12-27-2022, 06:27 PM	#14
gulfgambler Site Donor Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Tomball Posts: 1,097	Re: Marcus Davenport Cut bait Only plays 1/2 to 3/4 of games each year When he's "healthy" rarely lives up to the hype Cost 2 no.1 picks, dudes stealing money SmashMouth likes this.

12-27-2022, 06:54 PM	#15
K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,619 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Marcus Davenport Hmm. I'd bring MD back for 2023. His sack totals aren't higher, but among other things, his pressure rate is on par with 2021. The coverage and safety play were below average compared to a year ago. The former has gotten better in recent weeks, but losing Latt has hurt a lot, and I believe that's why the number of defensive line sacks has decreased. It would be less expensive (see post #5) to bring him back for a year. Big_L likes this.

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12-28-2022, 03:35 PM	#16
BakoSaint 1000 Posts + Join Date: Dec 2018 Posts: 2,135	Re: Marcus Davenport Originally Posted by K Major Hmm. I'd bring MD back for 2023. His sack totals aren't higher, but among other things, his pressure rate is on par with 2021. The coverage and safety play were below average compared to a year ago. The former has gotten better in recent weeks, but losing Latt has hurt a lot, and I believe that's why the number of defensive line sacks has decreased. It would be less expensive (see post #5) to bring him back for a year. Kind of like how its less expensive to put a $250 downpayment on a $2000 tv than to buy a $400 tv in cash. Less expensive using Loomis’ short term logic, more expensive in reality in the long term. Loomis will always put dead money at the end of deals but we can’t just extend all our bad contracts forever. MatthewT and Rugby Saint II like this.
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12-28-2022, 03:41 PM	#17
Rugby Saint II Bounty Money $$$ Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: 5800 Airline Dr. Metairie, LA. Posts: 24,052	Re: Marcus Davenport I'd like to put the franchise tag on Marcus Davenport for 2023. Maybe he'll have a healthy year where he produces and finally lives up to his potential. Otherwise, we can let him walk and get the compensatory pick. I believe that that is where he gives us our most value. I really thought we were going to start playing the compensatory game now but it looks like we're just going to keep extending these guys and plunging into further cap hell. SmashMouth likes this.

12-28-2022, 06:47 PM	#18
saintsfan1976 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Atlanta Posts: 10,832 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Marcus Davenport Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II I'd like to put the franchise tag on Marcus Davenport for 2023. Maybe he'll have a healthy year where he produces and finally lives up to his potential. Otherwise, we can let him walk and get the compensatory pick. I believe that that is where he gives us our most value. I really thought we were going to start playing the compensatory game now but it looks like we're just going to keep extending these guys and plunging into further cap hell. '23 Franchise Tag for DE: $20,167,000 (second only behind QB) You really think that's in our best interest? SmashMouth, Rugby Saint II and K Major like this.

12-29-2022, 11:43 AM	#19
Rugby Saint II Bounty Money $$$ Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: 5800 Airline Dr. Metairie, LA. Posts: 24,052	Re: Marcus Davenport Originally Posted by saintsfan1976 '23 Franchise Tag for DE: $20,167,000 (second only behind QB) You really think that's in our best interest? Well, not now I don't! iceshack149 and SmashMouth like this.

01-09-2023, 10:01 AM	#20
K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,619 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Marcus Davenport What happened to Davenport in 2022? 0.5 sacks & 0 FFs. Wow! Stats