Marcus Davenport

BakoSaint · 12-27-2022, 11:10 AM

I would offer him $4.5-6mil/yr. Thats what his production and availability is worth. If he gets a lot more I hope and pray its a division rival who is the sucker. Andrus Peat 2.0 on defense.

SmashMouth · 12-27-2022, 11:32 AM

Originally Posted by BakoSaint

I would offer him $4.5-6mil/yr. Thats what his production and availability is worth. If he gets a lot more I hope and pray its a division rival who is the sucker. Andrus Peat 2.0 on defense.

Actually not a bad comparison , come to think of it ...except Davenport has cost more in terms of draft picks, pinky or no pinky .

halloween 65 · 12-27-2022, 04:46 PM

Originally Posted by BakoSaint

I would offer him $4.5-6mil/yr. Thats what his production and availability is worth. If he gets a lot more I hope and pray its a division rival who is the sucker. Andrus Peat 2.0 on defense.

I would extend him. For how long I'm not sure but not on a 4 yr.

rezburna · 01-09-2023, 12:44 PM

Originally Posted by BakoSaint

I would offer him $4.5-6mil/yr. Thats what his production and availability is worth. If he gets a lot more I hope and pray its a division rival who is the sucker. Andrus Peat 2.0 on defense.

All of this.

gulfgambler · 12-27-2022, 05:27 PM

Cut bait
Only plays 1/2 to 3/4 of games each year
When he's "healthy" rarely lives up to the hype
Cost 2 no.1 picks, dudes stealing money

K Major · 12-27-2022, 05:54 PM

Hmm.

I'd bring MD back for 2023. His sack totals aren't higher, but among other things, his pressure rate is on par with 2021.

The coverage and safety play were below average compared to a year ago. The former has gotten better in recent weeks, but losing Latt has hurt a lot, and I believe that's why the number of defensive line sacks has decreased.

It would be less expensive (see post #5) to bring him back for a year.

BakoSaint · 12-28-2022, 02:35 PM

Originally Posted by K Major

Hmm.

I'd bring MD back for 2023. His sack totals aren't higher, but among other things, his pressure rate is on par with 2021.

The coverage and safety play were below average compared to a year ago. The former has gotten better in recent weeks, but losing Latt has hurt a lot, and I believe that's why the number of defensive line sacks has decreased.

It would be less expensive (see post #5) to bring him back for a year.

Kind of like how its less expensive to put a $250 downpayment on a $2000 tv than to buy a $400 tv in cash. Less expensive using Loomis’ short term logic, more expensive in reality in the long term. Loomis will always put dead money at the end of deals but we can’t just extend all our bad contracts forever.

SmashMouth · 01-19-2023, 09:37 PM

Originally Posted by K Major

Hmm.

I'd bring MD back for 2023. His sack totals aren't higher, but among other things, his pressure rate is on par with 2021.

The coverage and safety play were below average compared to a year ago. The former has gotten better in recent weeks, but losing Latt has hurt a lot, and I believe that's why the number of defensive line sacks has decreased.

It would be less expensive (see post #5) to bring him back for a year.

"Pressure rate" ... Why does this term not apply to Cameron Jordan? And why is this even in consideration?

Rugby Saint II · 12-28-2022, 02:41 PM

I'd like to put the franchise tag on Marcus Davenport for 2023. Maybe he'll have a healthy year where he produces and finally lives up to his potential. Otherwise, we can let him walk and get the compensatory pick. I believe that that is where he gives us our most value. I really thought we were going to start playing the compensatory game now but it looks like we're just going to keep extending these guys and plunging into further cap hell.

saintsfan1976 · 12-28-2022, 05:47 PM

Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II

I'd like to put the franchise tag on Marcus Davenport for 2023. Maybe he'll have a healthy year where he produces and finally lives up to his potential. Otherwise, we can let him walk and get the compensatory pick. I believe that that is where he gives us our most value. I really thought we were going to start playing the compensatory game now but it looks like we're just going to keep extending these guys and plunging into further cap hell.

'23 Franchise Tag for DE: $20,167,000 (second only behind QB)

You really think that's in our best interest?

12-27-2022, 11:10 AM	#1
BakoSaint 1000 Posts + Join Date: Dec 2018 Posts: 2,439	Re: Marcus Davenport I would offer him $4.5-6mil/yr. Thats what his production and availability is worth. If he gets a lot more I hope and pray its a division rival who is the sucker. Andrus Peat 2.0 on defense. MatthewT and halloween 65 like this.
BakoSaint 1000 Posts + Join Date: Dec 2018 Posts: 2,439

12-27-2022, 11:32 AM	#2
SmashMouth I donated, did you? Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Mandeville, LA Posts: 39,131 Blog Entries: 29	Re: Marcus Davenport Originally Posted by BakoSaint I would offer him $4.5-6mil/yr. Thats what his production and availability is worth. If he gets a lot more I hope and pray its a division rival who is the sucker. Andrus Peat 2.0 on defense. Actually not a bad comparison , come to think of it ...except Davenport has cost more in terms of draft picks, pinky or no pinky . Rsanders24 likes this.

12-27-2022, 04:46 PM	#3
halloween 65 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Grand Haven, Michigan by way of a little Mississippi River town in Louisiana Posts: 5,893	Re: Marcus Davenport Originally Posted by BakoSaint I would offer him $4.5-6mil/yr. Thats what his production and availability is worth. If he gets a lot more I hope and pray its a division rival who is the sucker. Andrus Peat 2.0 on defense. I would extend him. For how long I'm not sure but not on a 4 yr.

01-09-2023, 12:44 PM	#4
rezburna 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Kenner, LA Posts: 8,131	Re: Marcus Davenport Originally Posted by BakoSaint I would offer him $4.5-6mil/yr. Thats what his production and availability is worth. If he gets a lot more I hope and pray its a division rival who is the sucker. Andrus Peat 2.0 on defense. All of this. SmashMouth, bobdog86 and K Major like this.

12-27-2022, 05:54 PM	#6
K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,865 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Marcus Davenport Hmm. I'd bring MD back for 2023. His sack totals aren't higher, but among other things, his pressure rate is on par with 2021. The coverage and safety play were below average compared to a year ago. The former has gotten better in recent weeks, but losing Latt has hurt a lot, and I believe that's why the number of defensive line sacks has decreased. It would be less expensive (see post #5) to bring him back for a year. Big_L likes this.

12-27-2022, 05:27 PM	#5
gulfgambler Site Donor Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Tomball Posts: 1,097	Re: Marcus Davenport Cut bait Only plays 1/2 to 3/4 of games each year When he's "healthy" rarely lives up to the hype Cost 2 no.1 picks, dudes stealing money SmashMouth likes this.

12-28-2022, 02:35 PM	#7
BakoSaint 1000 Posts + Join Date: Dec 2018 Posts: 2,439	Re: Marcus Davenport Originally Posted by K Major Hmm. I'd bring MD back for 2023. His sack totals aren't higher, but among other things, his pressure rate is on par with 2021. The coverage and safety play were below average compared to a year ago. The former has gotten better in recent weeks, but losing Latt has hurt a lot, and I believe that's why the number of defensive line sacks has decreased. It would be less expensive (see post #5) to bring him back for a year. Kind of like how its less expensive to put a $250 downpayment on a $2000 tv than to buy a $400 tv in cash. Less expensive using Loomis’ short term logic, more expensive in reality in the long term. Loomis will always put dead money at the end of deals but we can’t just extend all our bad contracts forever. MatthewT and Rugby Saint II like this.
BakoSaint 1000 Posts + Join Date: Dec 2018 Posts: 2,439

01-19-2023, 09:37 PM	#8
SmashMouth I donated, did you? Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Mandeville, LA Posts: 39,131 Blog Entries: 29	Re: Marcus Davenport Originally Posted by K Major Hmm. I'd bring MD back for 2023. His sack totals aren't higher, but among other things, his pressure rate is on par with 2021. The coverage and safety play were below average compared to a year ago. The former has gotten better in recent weeks, but losing Latt has hurt a lot, and I believe that's why the number of defensive line sacks has decreased. It would be less expensive (see post #5) to bring him back for a year. "Pressure rate" ... Why does this term not apply to Cameron Jordan? And why is this even in consideration?

12-28-2022, 02:41 PM	#9
Rugby Saint II Bounty Money $$$ Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: 5800 Airline Dr. Metairie, LA. Posts: 24,200	Re: Marcus Davenport I'd like to put the franchise tag on Marcus Davenport for 2023. Maybe he'll have a healthy year where he produces and finally lives up to his potential. Otherwise, we can let him walk and get the compensatory pick. I believe that that is where he gives us our most value. I really thought we were going to start playing the compensatory game now but it looks like we're just going to keep extending these guys and plunging into further cap hell. SmashMouth likes this.

12-28-2022, 05:47 PM	#10
saintsfan1976 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Atlanta Posts: 11,081 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Marcus Davenport Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II I'd like to put the franchise tag on Marcus Davenport for 2023. Maybe he'll have a healthy year where he produces and finally lives up to his potential. Otherwise, we can let him walk and get the compensatory pick. I believe that that is where he gives us our most value. I really thought we were going to start playing the compensatory game now but it looks like we're just going to keep extending these guys and plunging into further cap hell. '23 Franchise Tag for DE: $20,167,000 (second only behind QB) You really think that's in our best interest? SmashMouth, Rugby Saint II and K Major like this.