Marcus Davenport

K Major · 01-30-2023, 12:31 PM

All I know is that the New Orleans Saints are one of the oldest teams in the NFL & having cap "concerns".

Unable to keep Latavius vs Ingram & then the Ceedy trade

. Notice how Philly was able to use him EFFECTIVELY at safety. Instead of paying Marcus Williams (his range is elite), they went with the HB & injury-prone Marcus Maye.

The O line has regressed & poor (Throckmorton/Hurst) DEPTH.

Cam Jordan & Demario are another year older & guys like Davenport/Turner are brittle. Not even sure if Tanoh or MD walk in Free Agency.

Realistically, this team needs a LOT (starting with coaches) if they ever want to truly compete for a Lombardi again. Oh, did I mention we have no quarterback?? Watching the title games over the weekend, you either must have an ELITE QB or a sound defensive front with forward-thinking coaches to make it to the big boy bowl.

IMO they are 3, or 4 years away from competing

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AsylumGuido · 01-30-2023, 12:48 PM

Originally Posted by SmashMouth

Tampa Bay says hello from one of their SB trophies.

Yup. They won that with Coach Dungy's players. Three of the next four years under Gruden they had a losing record winning only four and five games in two of those years. I'm sure you remember that stretch, right? Had they not moved on from Dungy and thrown away two 1st rounders AND two 2nd rounders they might have won multiple Super Bowls during that stretch.

Hello? Yes, hello to immediately becoming the doormat of the NFC South.

halloween 65 · 01-30-2023, 05:02 PM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

Yup. They won that with Coach Dungy's players. Three of the next four years under Gruden they had a losing record winning only four and five games in two of those years. I'm sure you remember that stretch, right? Had they not moved on from Dungy and thrown away two 1st rounders AND two 2nd rounders they might have won multiple Super Bowls during that stretch.

Hello? Yes, hello to immediately becoming the doormat of the NFC South.

He!! we throw away first round picks every draft, no difference really. Throwing those 2fers away has cost us quality depth and players that could be good in rotation, not to mention actual starters on the front lines. So if u think Tampa and those picks cost them how come u think different on the Saints? It's like a slow death either way. Tampa just died quicker!! Of course we might have a quick one coming up this season.

Sinner · 01-30-2023, 05:11 PM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

Yup. They won that with Coach Dungy's players. Three of the next four years under Gruden they had a losing record winning only four and five games in two of those years. I'm sure you remember that stretch, right? Had they not moved on from Dungy and thrown away two 1st rounders AND two 2nd rounders they might have won multiple Super Bowls during that stretch.

Hello? Yes, hello to immediately becoming the doormat of the NFC South.

That doormat used us as a doormat twice this season... and stepped further into the post-season than we did. Hello.

K Major · 01-30-2023, 05:23 PM

Originally Posted by halloween 65

Tampa just died quicker!! Of course we might have a quick one coming up this season.

AsylumGuido · 01-30-2023, 05:41 PM

Originally Posted by halloween 65

He!! we throw away first round picks every draft, no difference really. Throwing those 2fers away has cost us quality depth and players that could be good in rotation, not to mention actual starters on the front lines. So if u think Tampa and those picks cost them how come u think different on the Saints? It's like a slow death either way. Tampa just died quicker!! Of course we might have a quick one coming up this season.

What does any of that have to do with a team being unwilling to give up two 1st round picks for Payton? You lost me there.

halloween 65 · 01-30-2023, 06:43 PM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

What does any of that have to do with a team being unwilling to give up two 1st round picks for Payton? You lost me there.

You never said for Payton, you said Dungy and Gruden

AsylumGuido · 01-30-2023, 07:12 PM

Originally Posted by halloween 65

You never said for Payton, you said Dungy and Gruden

The Gruden deal was the basis for the argument that Payton was worth two 1st's. That's what I was addressing. I can't see any team making that same mistake that the Bucs made in that dumb trade to get Gruden.

Rell&Gold · 01-31-2023, 12:08 AM

Originally Posted by K Major

Looking at the Bengals today, notice how well the O line (injured throughout 2022) have been protecting Joe Cool.

Injuries happen to ALL teams but GOOD DEPTH is key.

Saints need to observe and implement.

He had zero sacks and 1 tackle sounds like trey destroying LTs left and right

Rell&Gold · 01-31-2023, 12:09 AM

Originally Posted by dizzle88

Trey Hendrickson again showing up in the playoffs.

Davenport should watch some of Trey's tape.

Where did he show up ? He literally didn't make a play or it only matters when ita Davenport?

01-30-2023, 12:31 PM	#71
K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,619 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Marcus Davenport All I know is that the New Orleans Saints are one of the oldest teams in the NFL & having cap "concerns". Unable to keep Latavius vs Ingram & then the Ceedy trade . Notice how Philly was able to use him EFFECTIVELY at safety. Instead of paying Marcus Williams (his range is elite), they went with the HB & injury-prone Marcus Maye. The O line has regressed & poor (Throckmorton/Hurst) DEPTH. Cam Jordan & Demario are another year older & guys like Davenport/Turner are brittle. Not even sure if Tanoh or MD walk in Free Agency. Realistically, this team needs a LOT (starting with coaches) if they ever want to truly compete for a Lombardi again. Oh, did I mention we have no quarterback?? Watching the title games over the weekend, you either must have an ELITE QB or a sound defensive front with forward-thinking coaches to make it to the big boy bowl. IMO they are 3, or 4 years away from competing ... jnormand, SmashMouth, Sinner and 1 others like this.
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01-30-2023, 12:48 PM	#72
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,220	Re: Marcus Davenport Originally Posted by SmashMouth Tampa Bay says hello from one of their SB trophies. Yup. They won that with Coach Dungy's players. Three of the next four years under Gruden they had a losing record winning only four and five games in two of those years. I'm sure you remember that stretch, right? Had they not moved on from Dungy and thrown away two 1st rounders AND two 2nd rounders they might have won multiple Super Bowls during that stretch. Hello? Yes, hello to immediately becoming the doormat of the NFC South.

01-30-2023, 05:02 PM	#73
halloween 65 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Grand Haven, Michigan by way of a little Mississippi River town in Louisiana Posts: 5,893	Re: Marcus Davenport Originally Posted by AsylumGuido Yup. They won that with Coach Dungy's players. Three of the next four years under Gruden they had a losing record winning only four and five games in two of those years. I'm sure you remember that stretch, right? Had they not moved on from Dungy and thrown away two 1st rounders AND two 2nd rounders they might have won multiple Super Bowls during that stretch. Hello? Yes, hello to immediately becoming the doormat of the NFC South. He!! we throw away first round picks every draft, no difference really. Throwing those 2fers away has cost us quality depth and players that could be good in rotation, not to mention actual starters on the front lines. So if u think Tampa and those picks cost them how come u think different on the Saints? It's like a slow death either way. Tampa just died quicker!! Of course we might have a quick one coming up this season. Sinner likes this.

01-30-2023, 05:11 PM	#74
Sinner 1000 Posts + Join Date: Nov 2010 Posts: 3,875	Re: Marcus Davenport Originally Posted by AsylumGuido Yup. They won that with Coach Dungy's players. Three of the next four years under Gruden they had a losing record winning only four and five games in two of those years. I'm sure you remember that stretch, right? Had they not moved on from Dungy and thrown away two 1st rounders AND two 2nd rounders they might have won multiple Super Bowls during that stretch. Hello? Yes, hello to immediately becoming the doormat of the NFC South. That doormat used us as a doormat twice this season... and stepped further into the post-season than we did. Hello. halloween 65 and K Major like this.
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01-30-2023, 05:23 PM	#75
K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,619 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Marcus Davenport Originally Posted by halloween 65 Tampa just died quicker!! Of course we might have a quick one coming up this season. SmashMouth, Sinner and halloween 65 like this.

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01-30-2023, 05:41 PM	#76
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,220	Re: Marcus Davenport Originally Posted by halloween 65 He!! we throw away first round picks every draft, no difference really. Throwing those 2fers away has cost us quality depth and players that could be good in rotation, not to mention actual starters on the front lines. So if u think Tampa and those picks cost them how come u think different on the Saints? It's like a slow death either way. Tampa just died quicker!! Of course we might have a quick one coming up this season. What does any of that have to do with a team being unwilling to give up two 1st round picks for Payton? You lost me there.

01-30-2023, 06:43 PM	#77
halloween 65 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Grand Haven, Michigan by way of a little Mississippi River town in Louisiana Posts: 5,893	Re: Marcus Davenport Originally Posted by AsylumGuido What does any of that have to do with a team being unwilling to give up two 1st round picks for Payton? You lost me there. You never said for Payton, you said Dungy and Gruden

01-30-2023, 07:12 PM	#78
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,220	Re: Marcus Davenport Originally Posted by halloween 65 You never said for Payton, you said Dungy and Gruden The Gruden deal was the basis for the argument that Payton was worth two 1st's. That's what I was addressing. I can't see any team making that same mistake that the Bucs made in that dumb trade to get Gruden.

01-31-2023, 12:08 AM	#79
Rell&Gold 1000 Posts + Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: Washington, D.C Posts: 2,887	Re: Marcus Davenport Originally Posted by K Major Looking at the Bengals today, notice how well the O line (injured throughout 2022) have been protecting Joe Cool. Injuries happen to ALL teams but GOOD DEPTH is key. Saints need to observe and implement. He had zero sacks and 1 tackle sounds like trey destroying LTs left and right

01-31-2023, 12:09 AM	#80
Rell&Gold 1000 Posts + Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: Washington, D.C Posts: 2,887	Re: Marcus Davenport Originally Posted by dizzle88 Trey Hendrickson again showing up in the playoffs. Davenport should watch some of Trey's tape. Where did he show up ? He literally didn't make a play or it only matters when ita Davenport?