Marcus Davenport

SmashMouth · 01-20-2023, 10:01 PM

Originally Posted by BakoSaint

We let Hendrickson go in the offseason between 2020 and 2021 seasons. This was the same offseason where at WR we were comfortable with Michael Thomas as our only talented WR despite his being injured all season, delaying surgery, and our recent experience with how one injury affected Cameron Meredith's promising WR career. And behind Thomas nothing. And at starting TE Adam Trautman a totally unproven raw project pick.

So I guess we 'had cap space' to sign Hendrickson but 'weren't sold' however its important to remember that we had so little cap space that we decided not to address obvious needs that ruined our teams season because we were so close to being maxed out on the cap that had we signed Hendrickson, or more practically a WR or TE making that kind of money, we would have been in an even more historical level of cap hell.

I think its more practical so say that we could have signed Hendrickson, or we could have brought in a great WR or TE, but Mickey Loomis had us so maxxed out on the cap that had we done that, and had Jameis Winston thrown for 6000 yards in 2021 or Taysom Hill been the first QB to rush for 2000 yards, and we won the Superbowl, we would not have had any way to get under the salary cap enough to apply the franchise tag to prevent letting them walk. So even if Hendrickson had been a fit, it would not have mattered, unless we let Ramczyk or Lattimore etc walk in his place, we were hosed.

A valid argument for not over-mortgaging the cap. Also an argument to NOT spend two number ones for a number one pick on moving up. This move rarely works out, despite the obvious exceptions . It could be argued had we not used two 1s to reach down to get Davenport who probably would've been available in later rounds, our cap would've been in better situation to afford Hendrickson sans casualties. As a franchise, you want exactly the kind of players like Hendrickson turned out to be from the draft position he was gotten

halloween 65 · 01-11-2023, 04:11 PM

I would low ball Davenport on a contract and add incentives. He knows he hasn't set the world on fire

Crusader · 01-12-2023, 03:18 PM

Originally Posted by halloween 65

I would low ball Davenport on a contract and add incentives. He knows he hasn't set the world on fire

Yeah that would probably be my strategy too. He needs to produce to get paid or just get out and let somebody hungrier take his place.

dizzle88 · 01-12-2023, 03:20 PM

The fact that Carl Granderson consistently outperforms Davenport, just like Hendrickson did, speaks volumes.

Rugby Saint II · 01-18-2023, 11:47 AM

Originally Posted by dizzle88

The fact that Carl Granderson consistently outperforms Davenport, just like Hendrickson did, speaks volumes.

Another undrafted free agent producing volumes for the New Orleans Saints. When you throw away draft picks like we do you definitely need to hit on those undrafted free agents.

dizzle88 · 01-22-2023, 02:32 PM

Trey Hendrickson again showing up in the playoffs.

Davenport should watch some of Trey's tape.

K Major · 01-22-2023, 02:37 PM

Originally Posted by dizzle88

Trey Hendrickson again showing up in the playoffs.

Davenport should watch some of Trey's tape.

Facts

K Major · 01-22-2023, 04:46 PM

Originally Posted by dizzle88

Trey Hendrickson again showing up in the playoffs.

Davenport should watch some of Trey's tape.

Looking at the Bengals today, notice how well the O line (injured throughout 2022) have been protecting Joe Cool.

Injuries happen to ALL teams but GOOD DEPTH is key.

Saints need to observe and implement.

dizzle88 · 01-22-2023, 04:50 PM

Originally Posted by K Major

Looking at the Bengals today, notice how well the O line (injured throughout 2022) have been protecting Joe Cool.

Injuries happen to ALL teams but GOOD DEPTH is key.

Saints need to observe and implement.

100%.

I think I heard Cincy are missing their starting Center and RG for this game and yet the Bills have been bullied right off the line of scrimmage.

Good coaches and depth can make up for injuries, that's why I never really agree with injuries being used as excuses.

AsylumGuido · 01-22-2023, 04:56 PM

Originally Posted by dizzle88

100%.

I think I heard Cincy are missing their staring Center and RG for this game and yet the Bills have been bullied right off the line of scrimmage.

Good coaches and depth can make up for injuries, that's why I never really agree with injuries being used as excuses.

It really depends upon what else you have to overcome those injuries, don't you think. I would think that having Ja'Marr Chase, Tee Higgins, Tyler Boyd, Joe Mixon, and a guy named Joe Burrow at QB had to have helped. I'll bet if we had that crew we could have weathered some offensive line injuries quite well.

01-20-2023, 10:01 PM	#1
SmashMouth I donated, did you? Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Mandeville, LA Posts: 38,477 Blog Entries: 29	Re: Marcus Davenport Originally Posted by BakoSaint We let Hendrickson go in the offseason between 2020 and 2021 seasons. This was the same offseason where at WR we were comfortable with Michael Thomas as our only talented WR despite his being injured all season, delaying surgery, and our recent experience with how one injury affected Cameron Meredith's promising WR career. And behind Thomas nothing. And at starting TE Adam Trautman a totally unproven raw project pick. So I guess we 'had cap space' to sign Hendrickson but 'weren't sold' however its important to remember that we had so little cap space that we decided not to address obvious needs that ruined our teams season because we were so close to being maxed out on the cap that had we signed Hendrickson, or more practically a WR or TE making that kind of money, we would have been in an even more historical level of cap hell. I think its more practical so say that we could have signed Hendrickson, or we could have brought in a great WR or TE, but Mickey Loomis had us so maxxed out on the cap that had we done that, and had Jameis Winston thrown for 6000 yards in 2021 or Taysom Hill been the first QB to rush for 2000 yards, and we won the Superbowl, we would not have had any way to get under the salary cap enough to apply the franchise tag to prevent letting them walk. So even if Hendrickson had been a fit, it would not have mattered, unless we let Ramczyk or Lattimore etc walk in his place, we were hosed. A valid argument for not over-mortgaging the cap. Also an argument to NOT spend two number ones for a number one pick on moving up. This move rarely works out, despite the obvious exceptions . It could be argued had we not used two 1s to reach down to get Davenport who probably would've been available in later rounds, our cap would've been in better situation to afford Hendrickson sans casualties. As a franchise, you want exactly the kind of players like Hendrickson turned out to be from the draft position he was gotten

01-11-2023, 04:11 PM	#2
halloween 65 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Grand Haven, Michigan by way of a little Mississippi River town in Louisiana Posts: 5,893	Re: Marcus Davenport I would low ball Davenport on a contract and add incentives. He knows he hasn't set the world on fire Crusader and Rugby Saint II like this.

01-12-2023, 03:18 PM	#3
Crusader Resident Swede Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Märsta, Sweden Posts: 8,030	Re: Marcus Davenport Originally Posted by halloween 65 I would low ball Davenport on a contract and add incentives. He knows he hasn't set the world on fire Yeah that would probably be my strategy too. He needs to produce to get paid or just get out and let somebody hungrier take his place. halloween 65 likes this.

01-12-2023, 03:20 PM	#4
dizzle88 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 11,518	Re: Marcus Davenport The fact that Carl Granderson consistently outperforms Davenport, just like Hendrickson did, speaks volumes. saintsfan1976, SmashMouth and halloween 65 like this.

01-18-2023, 11:47 AM	#5
Rugby Saint II Bounty Money $$$ Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: 5800 Airline Dr. Metairie, LA. Posts: 24,117	Re: Marcus Davenport Originally Posted by dizzle88 The fact that Carl Granderson consistently outperforms Davenport, just like Hendrickson did, speaks volumes. Another undrafted free agent producing volumes for the New Orleans Saints. When you throw away draft picks like we do you definitely need to hit on those undrafted free agents. SmashMouth and dizzle88 like this.

01-22-2023, 02:32 PM	#6
dizzle88 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 11,518	Re: Marcus Davenport Trey Hendrickson again showing up in the playoffs. Davenport should watch some of Trey's tape. SmashMouth and K Major like this.

01-22-2023, 02:37 PM	#7
K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,738 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Marcus Davenport Originally Posted by dizzle88 Trey Hendrickson again showing up in the playoffs. Davenport should watch some of Trey's tape. Facts SmashMouth and dizzle88 like this.

01-22-2023, 04:46 PM	#8
K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,738 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Marcus Davenport Originally Posted by dizzle88 Trey Hendrickson again showing up in the playoffs. Davenport should watch some of Trey's tape. Looking at the Bengals today, notice how well the O line (injured throughout 2022) have been protecting Joe Cool. Injuries happen to ALL teams but GOOD DEPTH is key. Saints need to observe and implement. SmashMouth and dizzle88 like this.

01-22-2023, 04:50 PM	#9
dizzle88 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 11,518	Re: Marcus Davenport Originally Posted by K Major Looking at the Bengals today, notice how well the O line (injured throughout 2022) have been protecting Joe Cool. Injuries happen to ALL teams but GOOD DEPTH is key. Saints need to observe and implement. 100%. I think I heard Cincy are missing their starting Center and RG for this game and yet the Bills have been bullied right off the line of scrimmage. Good coaches and depth can make up for injuries, that's why I never really agree with injuries being used as excuses. SmashMouth and K Major like this.

01-22-2023, 04:56 PM	#10
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,472	Re: Marcus Davenport Originally Posted by dizzle88 100%. I think I heard Cincy are missing their staring Center and RG for this game and yet the Bills have been bullied right off the line of scrimmage. Good coaches and depth can make up for injuries, that's why I never really agree with injuries being used as excuses. It really depends upon what else you have to overcome those injuries, don't you think. I would think that having Ja'Marr Chase, Tee Higgins, Tyler Boyd, Joe Mixon, and a guy named Joe Burrow at QB had to have helped. I'll bet if we had that crew we could have weathered some offensive line injuries quite well.