Marcus Davenport

AsylumGuido · 01-30-2023, 11:48 AM

Originally Posted by SmashMouth

Tampa Bay says hello from one of their SB trophies.

Yup. They won that with Coach Dungy's players. Three of the next four years under Gruden they had a losing record winning only four and five games in two of those years. I'm sure you remember that stretch, right? Had they not moved on from Dungy and thrown away two 1st rounders AND two 2nd rounders they might have won multiple Super Bowls during that stretch.

Hello? Yes, hello to immediately becoming the doormat of the NFC South.

halloween 65 · 01-30-2023, 04:02 PM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

Yup. They won that with Coach Dungy's players. Three of the next four years under Gruden they had a losing record winning only four and five games in two of those years. I'm sure you remember that stretch, right? Had they not moved on from Dungy and thrown away two 1st rounders AND two 2nd rounders they might have won multiple Super Bowls during that stretch.

Hello? Yes, hello to immediately becoming the doormat of the NFC South.

He!! we throw away first round picks every draft, no difference really. Throwing those 2fers away has cost us quality depth and players that could be good in rotation, not to mention actual starters on the front lines. So if u think Tampa and those picks cost them how come u think different on the Saints? It's like a slow death either way. Tampa just died quicker!! Of course we might have a quick one coming up this season.

K Major · 01-30-2023, 04:23 PM

Originally Posted by halloween 65

Tampa just died quicker!! Of course we might have a quick one coming up this season.

AsylumGuido · 01-30-2023, 04:41 PM

Originally Posted by halloween 65

He!! we throw away first round picks every draft, no difference really. Throwing those 2fers away has cost us quality depth and players that could be good in rotation, not to mention actual starters on the front lines. So if u think Tampa and those picks cost them how come u think different on the Saints? It's like a slow death either way. Tampa just died quicker!! Of course we might have a quick one coming up this season.

What does any of that have to do with a team being unwilling to give up two 1st round picks for Payton? You lost me there.

halloween 65 · 01-30-2023, 05:43 PM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

What does any of that have to do with a team being unwilling to give up two 1st round picks for Payton? You lost me there.

You never said for Payton, you said Dungy and Gruden

AsylumGuido · 01-30-2023, 06:12 PM

Originally Posted by halloween 65

You never said for Payton, you said Dungy and Gruden

The Gruden deal was the basis for the argument that Payton was worth two 1st's. That's what I was addressing. I can't see any team making that same mistake that the Bucs made in that dumb trade to get Gruden.

Sinner · 01-30-2023, 04:11 PM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

Yup. They won that with Coach Dungy's players. Three of the next four years under Gruden they had a losing record winning only four and five games in two of those years. I'm sure you remember that stretch, right? Had they not moved on from Dungy and thrown away two 1st rounders AND two 2nd rounders they might have won multiple Super Bowls during that stretch.

Hello? Yes, hello to immediately becoming the doormat of the NFC South.

That doormat used us as a doormat twice this season... and stepped further into the post-season than we did. Hello.

vpheughan · 02-02-2023, 09:49 AM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

Yup. They won that with Coach Dungy's players. Three of the next four years under Gruden they had a losing record winning only four and five games in two of those years. I'm sure you remember that stretch, right? Had they not moved on from Dungy and thrown away two 1st rounders AND two 2nd rounders they might have won multiple Super Bowls during that stretch.

Hello? Yes, hello to immediately becoming the doormat of the NFC South.

Gruden is no judge of drafting QB talent either.

Tampa Bay Buccaneers - Bruce Gradkowski, Chris Simms,

AsylumGuido · 02-02-2023, 10:13 AM

Originally Posted by vpheughan

Gruden is no judge of drafting QB talent either.

Tampa Bay Buccaneers - Bruce Gradkowski, Chris Simms,

Yup. That's just another reason why the trade was so bad.

SmashMouth · 02-02-2023, 10:15 AM

Originally Posted by vpheughan

Gruden is no judge of drafting QB talent either.

Tampa Bay Buccaneers - Bruce Gradkowski, Chris Simms,

Chris Sims still thinks he was the second coming, if you listen to him with Florio .

01-30-2023, 11:48 AM	#1
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,856	Re: Marcus Davenport Originally Posted by SmashMouth Tampa Bay says hello from one of their SB trophies. Yup. They won that with Coach Dungy's players. Three of the next four years under Gruden they had a losing record winning only four and five games in two of those years. I'm sure you remember that stretch, right? Had they not moved on from Dungy and thrown away two 1st rounders AND two 2nd rounders they might have won multiple Super Bowls during that stretch. Hello? Yes, hello to immediately becoming the doormat of the NFC South.

01-30-2023, 04:02 PM	#2
halloween 65 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Grand Haven, Michigan by way of a little Mississippi River town in Louisiana Posts: 5,893	Re: Marcus Davenport Originally Posted by AsylumGuido Yup. They won that with Coach Dungy's players. Three of the next four years under Gruden they had a losing record winning only four and five games in two of those years. I'm sure you remember that stretch, right? Had they not moved on from Dungy and thrown away two 1st rounders AND two 2nd rounders they might have won multiple Super Bowls during that stretch. Hello? Yes, hello to immediately becoming the doormat of the NFC South. He!! we throw away first round picks every draft, no difference really. Throwing those 2fers away has cost us quality depth and players that could be good in rotation, not to mention actual starters on the front lines. So if u think Tampa and those picks cost them how come u think different on the Saints? It's like a slow death either way. Tampa just died quicker!! Of course we might have a quick one coming up this season. Sinner likes this.

01-30-2023, 04:23 PM	#3
K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,871 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Marcus Davenport Originally Posted by halloween 65 Tampa just died quicker!! Of course we might have a quick one coming up this season. SmashMouth, Sinner and halloween 65 like this.

01-30-2023, 04:41 PM	#4
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,856	Re: Marcus Davenport Originally Posted by halloween 65 He!! we throw away first round picks every draft, no difference really. Throwing those 2fers away has cost us quality depth and players that could be good in rotation, not to mention actual starters on the front lines. So if u think Tampa and those picks cost them how come u think different on the Saints? It's like a slow death either way. Tampa just died quicker!! Of course we might have a quick one coming up this season. What does any of that have to do with a team being unwilling to give up two 1st round picks for Payton? You lost me there.

01-30-2023, 05:43 PM	#5
halloween 65 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Grand Haven, Michigan by way of a little Mississippi River town in Louisiana Posts: 5,893	Re: Marcus Davenport Originally Posted by AsylumGuido What does any of that have to do with a team being unwilling to give up two 1st round picks for Payton? You lost me there. You never said for Payton, you said Dungy and Gruden

01-30-2023, 06:12 PM	#6
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,856	Re: Marcus Davenport Originally Posted by halloween 65 You never said for Payton, you said Dungy and Gruden The Gruden deal was the basis for the argument that Payton was worth two 1st's. That's what I was addressing. I can't see any team making that same mistake that the Bucs made in that dumb trade to get Gruden.

01-30-2023, 04:11 PM	#7
Sinner 1000 Posts + Join Date: Nov 2010 Posts: 4,073	Re: Marcus Davenport Originally Posted by AsylumGuido Yup. They won that with Coach Dungy's players. Three of the next four years under Gruden they had a losing record winning only four and five games in two of those years. I'm sure you remember that stretch, right? Had they not moved on from Dungy and thrown away two 1st rounders AND two 2nd rounders they might have won multiple Super Bowls during that stretch. Hello? Yes, hello to immediately becoming the doormat of the NFC South. That doormat used us as a doormat twice this season... and stepped further into the post-season than we did. Hello. halloween 65 and K Major like this.
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02-02-2023, 09:49 AM	#8
vpheughan 1000 Posts + Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 4,565	Re: Marcus Davenport Originally Posted by AsylumGuido Yup. They won that with Coach Dungy's players. Three of the next four years under Gruden they had a losing record winning only four and five games in two of those years. I'm sure you remember that stretch, right? Had they not moved on from Dungy and thrown away two 1st rounders AND two 2nd rounders they might have won multiple Super Bowls during that stretch. Hello? Yes, hello to immediately becoming the doormat of the NFC South. Gruden is no judge of drafting QB talent either. Tampa Bay Buccaneers - Bruce Gradkowski, Chris Simms, AsylumGuido, SmashMouth and K Major like this.
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02-02-2023, 10:13 AM	#9
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,856	Re: Marcus Davenport Originally Posted by vpheughan Gruden is no judge of drafting QB talent either. Tampa Bay Buccaneers - Bruce Gradkowski, Chris Simms, Yup. That's just another reason why the trade was so bad.

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SmashMouth I donated, did you? Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Mandeville, LA Posts: 39,168 Blog Entries: 29	Re: Marcus Davenport Originally Posted by vpheughan Gruden is no judge of drafting QB talent either. Tampa Bay Buccaneers - Bruce Gradkowski, Chris Simms, Chris Sims still thinks he was the second coming, if you listen to him with Florio . Rugby Saint II and K Major like this.

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