How many times before Carney goes?

WhoDat · 10-03-2005, 11:15 AM

How is that relevant to the discussion?

Brooks is a problem. Thanks. That's a revolutionary idea by which we're all amazed, I'm sure. The concept has no relevance whatsoever as to whether Carney has become a liability or not though.

saintswhodi · 10-03-2005, 11:26 AM

Relevant to the discussion? We are discussing a problem of the team are we not? I think there is a bigger liability than a kicker, I said so. Oh, I guess you are just looking for, gee WhoDat, you're right, a FG missed in the third quarter is much worse than a turnover in the red zone or in the opposing team's end of the field. Everytime someone discusses a problem there is BLAME ASSIGNMENT, we have bigger problems than a kicker who is 9/11. When people blame Brooks, others blame the defense and o-line and receivers. Or did you just miss those on the discuss only one problem a a time train?

WhoDat · 10-03-2005, 11:33 AM

Why does everything have to become a debate as to what the "biggest problem on the team is" with you? We were discussing the KICKER. Period. Find a post before yours in this thread, titled "How many times before Carney goes," that talks about anything but the damn kicker.

You really need to give the AB hating a rest. I've been on the guy's back maybe more than anyone else on this board over the last three years, so this means something coming from me. Your logic just doesn't make sense anyway.

Carney is a problem.

Oh yeah, well Brooks is a bigger problem! (Great, relevant only to comparative blame and nothing else).

Fine, well what about the defense, sloppy play, coaching, etc.

Everytime you say Brooks is a problem someone brings up the defense. Why can't you guys just admit Brooks is a problem...

You see how damn circular that is. Why does everything have to be a question of how much of a problem something is compared to AB? And if you come sweeping in to discuss the biggest problems on this team, where are your 200 threads about the LBs and run defense, and special teams, and coaching... which are all bigger problems than Brooks...??

saintswhodi · 10-03-2005, 11:44 AM

I don't think there is a bigger problem than Brooks. Case in point, he played well this game, I am looking for a show of hands of anyone, outside those Brooks lovers who thinks he never has a bad game, who is not holding their breath HOPING, not expecting, he has another one next week. That's a problem. Haslett is a problem. The LBs are a problem. Agreed. I have discussed those, but they aren't the problem this season IMO. Against the Giants and Vikings, we lost mainly cause of turnovers. Guess who committed the most? Shouldn't take too long for you to answer.

Why does everything have to become a debate as to what the "biggest problem on the team is" with you? We were discussing the KICKER. Period

Again, guess you missed those threads that do the exact same thing. Or you just ignored them. Or you just decided to get on your high horse in this one thread. Maybe this begins you keeping discussions focused on one issue run? I'll be looking forward to that.

You really need to give the AB hating a rest

AB hating? LMAO. You can't be serious. I made a thread saying he had a good game, does that mean he is no longer a problem? You need to give your Carney hating a rest then. He was 4/5 on field goals. Ask the Raiders if they would trade that for what Janikowski did last week for them.

I've been on the guy's back maybe more than anyone else on this board over the last three years, so this means something coming from me.

Does it really? I think you just got tired of being called the most negative poster some people have ever seen, and decided to go for a new image. Whatever works for you.

where are your 200 threads about the LBs and run defense, and special teams, and coaching... which are all bigger problems than Brooks...??

I guess that then is a matter of opinion is it not?

TheGambler · 10-03-2005, 11:56 AM

Remember my post from last night, when I told BlackOnBlack that it wasn't necessary to see Jake's name come up in every one of his posts?

Well..

Go back to that post, and replace "BlackonBlack" with "SaintsWhodi"............and replace "Jake" with "Brooks".

I think the point WhoDat was trying to make is.........it's one thing to bash Brooks and dislike him..........it's another thing to do it in seemingly every single thread.

stockman311 · 10-03-2005, 12:04 PM

SaintsWhodi is just a tool. He just hasn't figured it out yet.
He can't make a comment about this team with out Aaron Brooks entering into the conversation. The best tactic with him is ignore, ignore, ignore.

saintswhodi · 10-03-2005, 12:04 PM

I am sorry, but when WhoDat gains more consistency in when he chooses to address such issues, I will take it seriously. Until he takes the time to go into every thread and push the topic back on hand, choosing to fight some little battle here is not impressing me.

And bash him? I made a good game thread for him. That doesn't mean I don't still think he has a problem. I wonder when I do make good game threads for Brooks, where are you guys who say I am bashing? I didn;t see one post from any of you in there. I guess that keeps your eyes blind to the fact I give the guy credit when he plays at a decent level. Hard to take you seriously too.

saintswhodi · 10-03-2005, 12:05 PM

Originally Posted by stockman311

SaintsWhodi is just a tool. He just hasn't figured it out yet.
He can't make a comment about this team with out Aaron Brooks entering into the conversation. The best tactic with him is ignore, ignore, ignore.

LMAO!! Like you just did here by mentioning my name. Good one.

WhoDat · 10-03-2005, 12:21 PM

Wow. Whodi thinks AB is the biggest problem on the team. Shocker. I'll remember that statement, by the way.

Well do me a favor, if you want to change the topic in a thread, that's fine, so long as it doesn't relate to why AB is a bigger problem than whatever is being discussed. This is a SAINTS board, in case you hadn't noticed. It is not an Aaron Brooks board. So go ahead and pound your chest in the AB threads and keep it out of the others, OK?

TheGambler · 10-03-2005, 12:21 PM

Originally Posted by saintswhodi

Hard to take you seriously too.

Hey, whether you take me seriously or not is immaterial to me..

I understand that you gave Brooks credit for a good game, but you also find ways to bring his name up out of nowhere in other threads (this one is an example). And given that you're pretty much saying the same thing in every thread, I just think it's a bit of overkill. Sometimes less is truly more.

I said the same thing to BlackOnBlack yesterday because I got sick of seeing the Jake insults. Not because I care at all for Jake, but because it's a case of the same insults, just a new thread. If Jake's name were never mentioned again, with the exception of our Carolina games, I'd be completely content. He is irrelevant to anything our Saints team is trying to accomplish at this moment.

10-03-2005, 11:15 AM	#11
WhoDat 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 5,631	How is that relevant to the discussion? Brooks is a problem. Thanks. That's a revolutionary idea by which we're all amazed, I'm sure. The concept has no relevance whatsoever as to whether Carney has become a liability or not though.
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10-03-2005, 11:33 AM	#13
WhoDat 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 5,631	Why does everything have to become a debate as to what the "biggest problem on the team is" with you? We were discussing the KICKER. Period. Find a post before yours in this thread, titled "How many times before Carney goes," that talks about anything but the damn kicker. You really need to give the AB hating a rest. I've been on the guy's back maybe more than anyone else on this board over the last three years, so this means something coming from me. Your logic just doesn't make sense anyway. Carney is a problem. Oh yeah, well Brooks is a bigger problem! (Great, relevant only to comparative blame and nothing else). Fine, well what about the defense, sloppy play, coaching, etc. Everytime you say Brooks is a problem someone brings up the defense. Why can't you guys just admit Brooks is a problem... You see how damn circular that is. Why does everything have to be a question of how much of a problem something is compared to AB? And if you come sweeping in to discuss the biggest problems on this team, where are your 200 threads about the LBs and run defense, and special teams, and coaching... which are all bigger problems than Brooks...??
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10-03-2005, 11:44 AM	#14
saintswhodi 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: San Antonio, TX Posts: 6,941	I don't think there is a bigger problem than Brooks. Case in point, he played well this game, I am looking for a show of hands of anyone, outside those Brooks lovers who thinks he never has a bad game, who is not holding their breath HOPING, not expecting, he has another one next week. That's a problem. Haslett is a problem. The LBs are a problem. Agreed. I have discussed those, but they aren't the problem this season IMO. Against the Giants and Vikings, we lost mainly cause of turnovers. Guess who committed the most? Shouldn't take too long for you to answer. Why does everything have to become a debate as to what the "biggest problem on the team is" with you? We were discussing the KICKER. Period Again, guess you missed those threads that do the exact same thing. Or you just ignored them. Or you just decided to get on your high horse in this one thread. Maybe this begins you keeping discussions focused on one issue run? I'll be looking forward to that. You really need to give the AB hating a rest AB hating? LMAO. You can't be serious. I made a thread saying he had a good game, does that mean he is no longer a problem? You need to give your Carney hating a rest then. He was 4/5 on field goals. Ask the Raiders if they would trade that for what Janikowski did last week for them. I've been on the guy's back maybe more than anyone else on this board over the last three years, so this means something coming from me. Does it really? I think you just got tired of being called the most negative poster some people have ever seen, and decided to go for a new image. Whatever works for you. where are your 200 threads about the LBs and run defense, and special teams, and coaching... which are all bigger problems than Brooks...?? I guess that then is a matter of opinion is it not?

10-03-2005, 11:56 AM	#15
TheGambler 500th Post Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 610	Remember my post from last night, when I told BlackOnBlack that it wasn't necessary to see Jake's name come up in every one of his posts? Well.. Go back to that post, and replace "BlackonBlack" with "SaintsWhodi"............and replace "Jake" with "Brooks". I think the point WhoDat was trying to make is.........it's one thing to bash Brooks and dislike him..........it's another thing to do it in seemingly every single thread.
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10-03-2005, 12:04 PM	#16
stockman311 1000 Posts + Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: San Diego, CA Posts: 1,137	Don't worry WhoDat SaintsWhodi is just a tool. He just hasn't figured it out yet. He can't make a comment about this team with out Aaron Brooks entering into the conversation. The best tactic with him is ignore, ignore, ignore.

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10-03-2005, 11:26 AM	#12
saintswhodi 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: San Antonio, TX Posts: 6,941	Relevant to the discussion? We are discussing a problem of the team are we not? I think there is a bigger liability than a kicker, I said so. Oh, I guess you are just looking for, gee WhoDat, you're right, a FG missed in the third quarter is much worse than a turnover in the red zone or in the opposing team's end of the field. Everytime someone discusses a problem there is BLAME ASSIGNMENT, we have bigger problems than a kicker who is 9/11. When people blame Brooks, others blame the defense and o-line and receivers. Or did you just miss those on the discuss only one problem a a time train?

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saintswhodi 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: San Antonio, TX Posts: 6,941	Re: Don't worry WhoDat Originally Posted by stockman311 SaintsWhodi is just a tool. He just hasn't figured it out yet. He can't make a comment about this team with out Aaron Brooks entering into the conversation. The best tactic with him is ignore, ignore, ignore. LMAO!! Like you just did here by mentioning my name. Good one.

10-03-2005, 12:21 PM	#19
WhoDat 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 5,631	Wow. Whodi thinks AB is the biggest problem on the team. Shocker. I'll remember that statement, by the way. Well do me a favor, if you want to change the topic in a thread, that's fine, so long as it doesn't relate to why AB is a bigger problem than whatever is being discussed. This is a SAINTS board, in case you hadn't noticed. It is not an Aaron Brooks board. So go ahead and pound your chest in the AB threads and keep it out of the others, OK?
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10-03-2005, 12:21 PM	#20
TheGambler 500th Post Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 610	Originally Posted by saintswhodi Hard to take you seriously too. Hey, whether you take me seriously or not is immaterial to me.. I understand that you gave Brooks credit for a good game, but you also find ways to bring his name up out of nowhere in other threads (this one is an example). And given that you're pretty much saying the same thing in every thread, I just think it's a bit of overkill. Sometimes less is truly more. I said the same thing to BlackOnBlack yesterday because I got sick of seeing the Jake insults. Not because I care at all for Jake, but because it's a case of the same insults, just a new thread. If Jake's name were never mentioned again, with the exception of our Carolina games, I'd be completely content. He is irrelevant to anything our Saints team is trying to accomplish at this moment.
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