We Haven’t Beat A Stable Established QB

K Major · 01-15-2023, 07:00 PM

Originally Posted by halloween 65

I'm not a betting man but you are. My proposal to you is you put your money where your mouth is so to speak. But this bet isn't about money though. If they lose 1 game you don't post for the rest of that season, if they win your 20-0 I'll not post the entire next season. How does that grab you? Want the bet or talk smack with the 20-0. I already know what your going to do but I don't really think you BELIEVE what you're saying going 20-0. Fair bet from a non betting man. I truly love a gift horse I really do !!

LMAO Halloween!!

That wager was right out of the Twilight Zone script

The Silence

halloween 65 · 01-15-2023, 07:51 PM

Originally Posted by K Major

LMAO Halloween!!

That wager was right out of the Twilight Zone script

The Silence

He want do it. He knows better but when he goes to bet someone else I hope they tell him when he bets Halloween. Lol

BakoSaint · 01-16-2023, 12:34 AM

It is premature to predict a record before free agency, the draft, and possible coaching changes. Also remember in many games Dennis Allen didn’t get beat, he beat himself, like when Sam Darnold through for 44 yards. So maybe Dennis Allen won’t get fired but will fire himself in one way or another.

AsylumGuido · 01-16-2023, 08:53 AM

Originally Posted by halloween 65

He want do it. He knows better but when he goes to bet someone else I hope they tell him when he bets Halloween. Lol

I suppose you need clarification. Betting anything on a team going 20-0 in the NFL is a fool's bet. I am no fool. Are the Saints likely to go 20-0? History says no. You asked me to predict the Saints record. I said 20-0 just like I did last year and just like I have said 19-0 before they went to 17 games last season. In no individual week during the season am I expecting my Saints to lose that week therefore I would not predict a loss that week. If I feel that way on a weekly basis is there a reason I shouldn't feel the exact same way over the entire season?

That's why I have always "predicted" the Saints to win each game every year for decades and will continue to make the same prediction moving forward.

So, am I going to bet those ridiculously long odds based upon your premise? Nope. Only a fool would do that and I repeat, I am no fool.

Now do you get it?

However, I would place, say, a $20 bet on a season long money line parlay for every Saints game. I would do that in a second. I would lose if the Saints lost a single game. However, if they didn't lose that $20 would roll over to the next game multiplied by the previous game's money line odds. Then those winnings would be placed on the next game's money line and on and on. At even odds (which it may even out to as they remained undefeated) the total at the end of the run would be $20,971,520. Could you handle that?

subguy · 01-16-2023, 10:06 AM

Originally Posted by K Major

LMAO Halloween!!

That wager was right out of the Twilight Zone script

The Silence

An AG free season...as subguy drifts off in the bliss that could be the outcome of that proposal

K Major · 01-16-2023, 10:17 AM

Originally Posted by BakoSaint

It is premature to predict a record before free agency, the draft, and possible coaching changes. Also remember in many games Dennis Allen didn’t get beat, he beat himself, like when Sam Darnold through for 44 yards. So maybe Dennis Allen won’t get fired but will fire himself in one way or another.

Without coaching changes, none of this will matter.

It won't surprise me to see Dalton as the starter in 2023 either.

For me, I just don't need another season to confirm what I've already seen.

Accountability, coaching, play calling, or conditioning. DA doesn't (15-38) check any of these boxes.

AsylumGuido · 01-16-2023, 10:28 AM

Originally Posted by K Major

Without coaching changes, none of this will matter.

It won't surprise me to see Dalton as the starter in 2023 either.

For me, I just don't need another season to confirm what I've already seen.

Accountability, coaching, play calling, or conditioning. DA doesn't (15-38) check any of these boxes.

Nothing that any fan thinks they've seen drives the boat. Nor do I think that his record with the Raiders has any relevance to what the real drivers think or they wouldn't have hired him for the position in the first place. Personally, I can take or leave Dennis Allen as head coach. It is what it is and I'll keep hoping for the best. I can say, however, that he almost doubled his career win total in his first season with the hobbled Saints so there is that.

Rugby Saint II · 01-16-2023, 11:17 AM

Hope for the best and expect the worst. That is the lifeline of a New Orleans Saints fan.

Sinner · 01-16-2023, 11:45 AM

Originally Posted by K Major

Without coaching changes, none of this will matter.

It won't surprise me to see Dalton as the starter in 2023 either.

For me, I just don't need another season to confirm what I've already seen.

Accountability, coaching, play calling, or conditioning. DA doesn't (15-38) check any of these boxes.

100% THIS ^^^

K Major · 01-16-2023, 11:51 AM

Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II

Hope for the best and expect the worst. That is the lifeline of a New Orleans Saints fan.

It's time for a new motto brother

01-15-2023, 07:00 PM	#71
K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,589 Blog Entries: 3	Re: We Haven’t Beat A Stable Established QB Originally Posted by halloween 65 I'm not a betting man but you are. My proposal to you is you put your money where your mouth is so to speak. But this bet isn't about money though. If they lose 1 game you don't post for the rest of that season, if they win your 20-0 I'll not post the entire next season. How does that grab you? Want the bet or talk smack with the 20-0. I already know what your going to do but I don't really think you BELIEVE what you're saying going 20-0. Fair bet from a non betting man. I truly love a gift horse I really do !! LMAO Halloween!! That wager was right out of the Twilight Zone script The Silence iceshack149 and halloween 65 like this.

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halloween 65 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Grand Haven, Michigan by way of a little Mississippi River town in Louisiana Posts: 5,893	Re: We Haven’t Beat A Stable Established QB Originally Posted by K Major LMAO Halloween!! That wager was right out of the Twilight Zone script The Silence He want do it. He knows better but when he goes to bet someone else I hope they tell him when he bets Halloween. Lol iceshack149 and K Major like this.

01-16-2023, 12:34 AM	#73
BakoSaint 1000 Posts + Join Date: Dec 2018 Posts: 2,091	Re: We Haven’t Beat A Stable Established QB It is premature to predict a record before free agency, the draft, and possible coaching changes. Also remember in many games Dennis Allen didn’t get beat, he beat himself, like when Sam Darnold through for 44 yards. So maybe Dennis Allen won’t get fired but will fire himself in one way or another. SmashMouth, halloween 65 and K Major like this.
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01-16-2023, 08:53 AM	#74
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,048	Re: We Haven’t Beat A Stable Established QB Originally Posted by halloween 65 He want do it. He knows better but when he goes to bet someone else I hope they tell him when he bets Halloween. Lol I suppose you need clarification. Betting anything on a team going 20-0 in the NFL is a fool's bet. I am no fool. Are the Saints likely to go 20-0? History says no. You asked me to predict the Saints record. I said 20-0 just like I did last year and just like I have said 19-0 before they went to 17 games last season. In no individual week during the season am I expecting my Saints to lose that week therefore I would not predict a loss that week. If I feel that way on a weekly basis is there a reason I shouldn't feel the exact same way over the entire season? That's why I have always "predicted" the Saints to win each game every year for decades and will continue to make the same prediction moving forward. So, am I going to bet those ridiculously long odds based upon your premise? Nope. Only a fool would do that and I repeat, I am no fool. Now do you get it? However, I would place, say, a $20 bet on a season long money line parlay for every Saints game. I would do that in a second. I would lose if the Saints lost a single game. However, if they didn't lose that $20 would roll over to the next game multiplied by the previous game's money line odds. Then those winnings would be placed on the next game's money line and on and on. At even odds (which it may even out to as they remained undefeated) the total at the end of the run would be $20,971,520. Could you handle that?
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01-16-2023, 10:06 AM	#75
subguy 1000 Posts + Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: FL Posts: 2,092	Re: We Haven’t Beat A Stable Established QB Originally Posted by K Major LMAO Halloween!! That wager was right out of the Twilight Zone script The Silence An AG free season...as subguy drifts off in the bliss that could be the outcome of that proposal iceshack149, halloween 65 and K Major like this.

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K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,589 Blog Entries: 3	Re: We Haven’t Beat A Stable Established QB Originally Posted by BakoSaint It is premature to predict a record before free agency, the draft, and possible coaching changes. Also remember in many games Dennis Allen didn’t get beat, he beat himself, like when Sam Darnold through for 44 yards. So maybe Dennis Allen won’t get fired but will fire himself in one way or another. Without coaching changes, none of this will matter. It won't surprise me to see Dalton as the starter in 2023 either. For me, I just don't need another season to confirm what I've already seen. Accountability, coaching, play calling, or conditioning. DA doesn't (15-38) check any of these boxes. Sinner likes this.

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AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,048	Re: We Haven’t Beat A Stable Established QB Originally Posted by K Major Without coaching changes, none of this will matter. It won't surprise me to see Dalton as the starter in 2023 either. For me, I just don't need another season to confirm what I've already seen. Accountability, coaching, play calling, or conditioning. DA doesn't (15-38) check any of these boxes. Nothing that any fan thinks they've seen drives the boat. Nor do I think that his record with the Raiders has any relevance to what the real drivers think or they wouldn't have hired him for the position in the first place. Personally, I can take or leave Dennis Allen as head coach. It is what it is and I'll keep hoping for the best. I can say, however, that he almost doubled his career win total in his first season with the hobbled Saints so there is that.

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Sinner 1000 Posts + Join Date: Nov 2010 Posts: 3,824	Re: We Haven’t Beat A Stable Established QB Originally Posted by K Major Without coaching changes, none of this will matter. It won't surprise me to see Dalton as the starter in 2023 either. For me, I just don't need another season to confirm what I've already seen. Accountability, coaching, play calling, or conditioning. DA doesn't (15-38) check any of these boxes. 100% THIS ^^^ K Major likes this.
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K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,589 Blog Entries: 3	Re: We Haven’t Beat A Stable Established QB Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II Hope for the best and expect the worst. That is the lifeline of a New Orleans Saints fan. It's time for a new motto brother Sinner likes this.