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Observations From the Saints' Loss to the Panthers

this is a discussion within the Saints Community Forum; So far Penning is a miss at LT, his run blocking is excellent but he is struggling big time with pass blocking. If he doesn't improve real quick he will need to be moved to guard....

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Old 01-09-2023, 10:59 AM   #1
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So far Penning is a miss at LT, his run blocking is excellent but he is struggling big time with pass blocking. If he doesn't improve real quick he will need to be moved to guard.
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So far Penning is a miss at LT, his run blocking is excellent but he is struggling big time with pass blocking. If he doesn't improve real quick he will need to be moved to guard.
A miss? He hasn't even had an opportunity to play. How can he be a miss? He was injured in the preseason. This past game was his only start of the season. Before that he only saw 66 offensive snaps all season with most of those coming a sixth "eligible receiver" lineman.
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A miss? He hasn't even had an opportunity to play. How can he be a miss? He was injured in the preseason. This past game was his only start of the season. Before that he only saw 66 offensive snaps all season with most of those coming a sixth "eligible receiver" lineman.
Before his injury in preseason, he did not effectively handle the pass rush, and keep in mind this was against reserves and guys who did not make final rosters. He hasn't shown in his limited action during the season that he is much better at it yet. During the Carolina game he got burned, it didn't happen more because Carolina wasn't all that aggressive and Dalton only threw 25 passes. With that said, he is a complete beast as a run blocker and looks to already be on an all pro level with that part of his game.
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Before his injury in preseason, he did not effectively handle the pass rush, and keep in mind this was against reserves and guys who did not make final rosters. He hasn't shown in his limited action during the season that he is much better at it yet. During the Carolina game he got burned, it didn't happen more because Carolina wasn't all that aggressive and Dalton only threw 25 passes. With that said, he is a complete beast as a run blocker and looks to already be on an all pro level with that part of his game.
Once again, virtually all of his action during the season was in heavy sets (six man lines) on running situations. He was never in any standard pass protection assignments at all. As for preseason, it is nothing more than glorified practice sessions learning the "new to them" pass blocking schemes. Mistakes are to be expected.

I wouldn't expect a seasoned coaching professional to make ironclad evaluations from the sideline on a rookie's abilities based upon that tiny sample size, not to mention a fan sitting at home watching a handful of plays on his or her television set making the same attempt.

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Once again, virtually all of his action during the season was in heavy sets (six man lines) on running situations. He was never in any standard pass protection assignments at all. As for preseason, it is nothing more than glorified practice sessions learning the "new to them" pass blocking schemes. Mistakes are to be expected.

I wouldn't expect a seasoned coaching professional to make ironclad evaluations from the sideline on a rookie's abilities based upon that tiny sample size, not to mention a fan sitting at home watching a handful of plays on his or her television set making the same attempt.
I've shared my opinion a few times about him, nothing has changed so far. There is an expectation as a high round pick to be something more than what he has shown. He doesn't look quite as bad as Peat did when they drafted him to be a right tackle, but it's pretty close. Additionally, if you dig around at different scouting report sources, many had concerns about his pass blocking, it is seriously not me just watching this crap on TV.
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I've shared my opinion a few times about him, nothing has changed so far. There is an expectation as a high round pick to be something more than what he has shown. He doesn't look quite as bad as Peat did when they drafted him to be a right tackle, but it's pretty close. Additionally, if you dig around at different scouting report sources, many had concerns about his pass blocking, it is seriously not me just watching this crap on TV.
Yeah. I know. I've seen you post the exact same opinion about him several times as early as during the preseason. None of which have been based on any substantive evaluation as a pro. He hasn't shown much because he hasn't had an opportunity to show much. He's played less than a single game! I've seen people foolishly jump the gun labeling a player after only one full season as this or that, but you have been labeling him with the same description since preseason. And those "scouting report sources" have seen no more than you have since he was drafted.

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