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AsylumGuido 01-10-2023 05:01 PM

20 Questions We Have for the Saints in the Offseason
 

Most of these are questions we all have.

AsylumGuido 01-10-2023 05:02 PM

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After another disappointing season, there's plenty of questions to ask for the Saints over the next several months.

JOHN HENDRIX 20 MINUTES AGO


The Saints are officially in offseason mode, and we wonder what 2023 is going to hold for the black and gold. New Orleans has a lot of questions to answer over the next several months, and we've assembled 20 of the most pressing ones for Dennis Allen and Mickey Loomis. Some will be answered sooner rather than later, but most we'll have to wait and see how they play out.

20 Offseason Questions for the Saints


What coaching changes, if any, get made?
Who will be the quarterback in 2023?
Will the team lose any assistants or front office staff to other teams?
What does the future hold for players like Jameis Winston, Andrus Peat, Demario Davis, and Cam Jordan?
Where does Sean Payton end up, and what compensation will the Saints receive if he's traded?
How exactly will the Saints tackle their $40-45 million salary cap overage?
What players will be in line for restructures or potential contract extensions?
Will the Saints use the franchise tag on any of their players?
What positions will the Saints pursue in free agency?
What gems will the team uncover in the Senior Bowl?
What happens with Michael Thomas?
Will players like Kaden Elliss, David Onyemata, or Marcus Davenport get re-signed ahead of the new league year?
What restricted free agents will the team tender?
How competitive will the Saints be in free agency?
How will the team tackle the draft?
What will the fate of Alvin Kamara be regarding his legal case?
How will players like Cesar Ruiz and Trevor Penning rebound coming off their Lisfranc injuries?
What's the vision for the secondary in having Paulson Adebo, Marshon Lattimore, and Alontae Taylor?
Will any surprise cuts or trades happen over the next few months?
Which second-year players will have heavier roles in the new season?
Where do players who got injured in training camp like D'Marco Jackson fit in?

WW_Who_Dat 01-10-2023 06:42 PM

Re: 20 Questions We Have for the Saints in the Offseason
 
BakoSaint … Fire the Owner
Solution Fire the front office
Fire Sean Peyton … doesn’t matter if he’s gone fire him anyway.
Fire the entire coaching staff
Release the entire practice squad
Cut all the starters offense and defense
Cut the 2023 draft class before OTA’s

Problems solved get new everything and it will get better before 2029.



Warning Satire Alert !!!!

SmashMouth 01-10-2023 07:31 PM

Re: 20 Questions We Have for the Saints in the Offseason
 
Shirley, there have to be more than 20 questions , neaux?

K Major 01-10-2023 07:56 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by SmashMouth (Post 967099)
Shirley, there have to be more than 20 questions , neaux?

https://media.tenor.com/BZO_UcAS32kA...ey-shirley.gif

Rugby Saint II 01-13-2023 05:18 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by SmashMouth (Post 967099)
Shirley, there have to be more than 20 questions , neaux?

I laughed out loud! Thank you.

BakoSaint 01-13-2023 11:13 PM

Re: 20 Questions We Have for the Saints in the Offseason
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by WW_Who_Dat (Post 967098)
BakoSaint … Fire the Owner
Solution Fire the front office
Fire Sean Peyton … doesn’t matter if he’s gone fire him anyway.
Fire the entire coaching staff
Release the entire practice squad
Cut all the starters offense and defense
Cut the 2023 draft class before OTA’s

Problems solved get new everything and it will get better before 2029.



Warning Satire Alert !!!!

Fire the Loomis, Khai Hartley, and the entire coaching staff. Cut Thomas, Peat, Landry, and Maye. Let Davenport walk. Trade Kamara. Sign Harbaugh. Trade Payton for picks. Trade back those picks. Draft a lot of young players. It will get better in 2024 or maybe 2023. The Panthers traded McCaffery and fired their coach and got better.

dizzle88 01-14-2023 02:48 AM

Re: 20 Questions We Have for the Saints in the Offseason
 
Well Loomis has said that they are looking for "stability" among the staff, so that means no underachieving coaches are being shown the door.

K Major 01-14-2023 09:16 AM

Re: 20 Questions We Have for the Saints in the Offseason
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by dizzle88 (Post 967345)
Well Loomis has said that they are looking for "stability" among the staff, so that means no underachieving coaches are being shown the door.

I’m amazed Pete Carmichael still has a job in NOLA.

2023 could be rough.

dizzle88 01-14-2023 09:21 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by K Major (Post 967349)
I’m amazed Pete Carmichael still has a job in NOLA.

2023 could be rough.

I remember seeing reports before last season that Pete wasn't expected back and DA wanted to search for OC's, then all of a sudden Pete was retained.

Sounds to me like someone is holding responsibilities that should be DA's.

If Loomis or someone else is making these decisions, they need to be shown the door too.

AsylumGuido 01-14-2023 09:40 AM

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I for one am expecting a banner year for the Saints. We're going to stay healthy, have a second year of continuity, and add a final few pieces through the draft and free agency to walk away with the NFC South. After that, it's anyone's game!

:bng:

K Major 01-14-2023 10:10 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by dizzle88 (Post 967350)
I remember seeing reports before last season that Pete wasn't expected back and DA wanted to search for OC's, then all of a sudden Pete was retained.

Sounds to me like someone is holding responsibilities that should be DA's.

If Loomis or someone else is making these decisions, they need to be shown the door too.

Titans fire their OC, Patriots fire OC Patricia (also terrible FORMER HC), Commanders fire OC Scott Turner, Jets, etc.

What type of organization brings back a career .283 winning percentage HC & has mishandled so many aspects of the 2022 season?

"Keep doing what you're doing". :rolleyes: They've set the bar LOW in New Orleans.

Just watch how this plays out in 2023 Diz.

INSANITY

Sinner 01-14-2023 11:04 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by dizzle88 (Post 967350)
I remember seeing reports before last season that Pete wasn't expected back and DA wanted to search for OC's, then all of a sudden Pete was retained.

Sounds to me like someone is holding responsibilities that should be DA's.

If Loomis or someone else is making these decisions, they need to be shown the door too.

I have said ("argued" with some) that this would be a great opportunity to totally clean house. If we don't (and it looks like we won't), my prediction is that we are going to sit through a few (maybe many) painful seasons of continued dismal performance.

dizzle88 01-14-2023 11:31 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Sinner (Post 967357)
I have said ("argued" with some) that this would be a great opportunity to totally clean house. If we don't (and it looks like we won't), my prediction is that we are going to sit through a few (maybe many) painful seasons of continued dismal performance.

Agreed Sinner, perfect opportunity to revamp the Saints, although it doesn't look like that's what they intend to do.

dizzle88 01-14-2023 11:35 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by K Major (Post 967355)
Titans fire their OC, Patriots fire OC Patricia (also terrible FORMER HC), Commanders fire OC Scott Turner, Jets, etc.

What type of organization brings back a career .283 winning percentage HC & has mishandled so many aspects of the 2022 season?

"Keep doing what you're doing". :rolleyes: They've set the bar LOW in New Orleans.

Just watch how this plays out in 2023 Diz.

INSANITY

Yeah agreed Major, every post and news article I see about Dennis Allen is just how he's never had a winning season.

That doesn't scream "future super bowl winning coach" to me.

AsylumGuido 01-14-2023 12:28 PM

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For all the talk about Dennis Allen's past history as a head coach let's not forget that in his first year with the Saints as head coach he managed more wins than any previous year by a good margin with a roster that was decimated by key injuries. Let's also not forget that the coach that many feel is worth multiple 1st round picks (Sean Payton) failed to lead his team to more victories in a single season than Allen accomplished in 2022-23 on FOUR separate occasions (2007, 2014, 2015, 2016).

Just sayin'.

:D

Back to the wallowing in self pity. ;)

Sinner 01-14-2023 02:00 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 967361)
For all the talk about Dennis Allen's past history as a head coach let's not forget that in his first year with the Saints as head coach he managed more wins than any previous year by a good margin with a roster that was decimated by key injuries. Let's also not forget that the coach that many feel is worth multiple 1st round picks (Sean Payton) failed to lead his team to more victories in a single season than Allen accomplished in 2022-23 on FOUR separate occasions (2007, 2014, 2015, 2016).

Just sayin'.

:D

Back to the wallowing in self pity. ;)

Victim Fetish is a strange phenomenon. As we segue from that ABYSMAL performance on closing day, AT HOME IN THE DOME, against a QB that threw for a total of 43 yds, ZERO touchdowns, and TWO interceptions - let's just float into the off season, and into another "OFF"-season, while continuing to make excuses for multi-millionaires. It's going to take more than a $750 million upgrade to rid the dome of the stank you'll be breathing during the next home game. God willing, we'll still be here to talk about how long-time dedicated fans who fork out their hard-earned cash, choose to perceive themselves as powerless to affect the outcome. WHO DAT!!!

lee909 01-14-2023 02:01 PM

Re: 20 Questions We Have for the Saints in the Offseason
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by K Major (Post 967349)
I’m amazed Pete Carmichael still has a job in NOLA.

2023 could be rough.

That's why the season should be about clearing cap space to rebuild. Trade away older vets, let them ring chase somewhere.

Problem is with Loomis free draft giveaway they've given away our second rounder in 2024

dizzle88 01-14-2023 02:16 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by lee909 (Post 967364)
That's why the season should be about clearing cap space to rebuild. Trade away older vets, let them ring chase somewhere.

Problem is with Loomis free draft giveaway they've given away our second rounder in 2024

Honestly no point in drafting impactful players, because Loomis just let's them walk when contract time happens anyway.

Marcus Williams and Trey Hendrickson should still be on this team. We hit the jackpot considering where we drafted them and yet they walked away and we got zero compensation.

lee909 01-14-2023 03:12 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by dizzle88 (Post 967366)
Honestly no point in drafting impactful players, because Loomis just let's them walk when contract time happens anyway.

Marcus Williams and Trey Hendrickson should still be on this team. We hit the jackpot considering where we drafted them and yet they walked away and we got zero compensation.

Can't keep players who want fair play when you decided paying Drew Brees and Terrin Armstead 24.5ml last year was a good idea.

They need rid of these stupid void years and constant restructures on so many players


Saints Dead cap
2022 33ml
2021 49ml

A d it's not like they've even been clearing the books like Atlanta did last year. It's just constant mismanagement to keep the gang together for another run. It's essentially lead to losing good young players to sign slightly cheaper older vets like last year

lee909 01-14-2023 03:16 PM

Re: 20 Questions We Have for the Saints in the Offseason
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by dizzle88 (Post 967366)
Honestly no point in drafting impactful players, because Loomis just let's them walk when contract time happens anyway.

Marcus Williams and Trey Hendrickson should still be on this team. We hit the jackpot considering where we drafted them and yet they walked away and we got zero compensation.

Look the Roby/Jackrabbit trades. Cuts Jenkins due to cap to then send a 3rd round pick to pick up another vet to replace him.

Gave Peat such a bad contract tbey have to keep restructuring it to get under the cap meaning g you have to keep pricing yourself out of keeping him.

The front office reminds me of those scouting/management teams in all sorts of sports that begins to believe its own hype about how clever they are at cap/scouting and end up just messing everything up.

dizzle88 01-14-2023 03:17 PM

Re: 20 Questions We Have for the Saints in the Offseason
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by lee909 (Post 967367)
Can't keep players who want fair play when you decided paying Drew Brees and Terrin Armstead 24.5ml last year was a good idea.

They need rid of these stupid void years and constant restructures on so many players


Saints Dead cap
2022 33ml
2021 49ml

A d it's not like they've even been clearing the books like Atlanta did last year. It's just constant mismanagement to keep the gang together for another run. It's essentially lead to losing good young players to sign slightly cheaper older vets like last year

This ^^

Losing good players because of cap mismanagement. Exactly.

K Major 01-14-2023 03:38 PM

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On the subject of coaches, the Falcons have requested to interview Ryan Nielsen.

FWIW, this is for a Def coordinator position.

lee909 01-14-2023 03:43 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by K Major (Post 967370)
On the subject of coaches, the Falcons have requested to interview Ryan Nielsen.

FWIW, this is for a Def coordinator position.

Can they turn them down as he is co-ordinator

AsylumGuido 01-14-2023 04:31 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Sinner (Post 967363)
Victim Fetish is a strange phenomenon. As we segue from that ABYSMAL performance on closing day, AT HOME IN THE DOME, against a QB that threw for a total of 43 yds, ZERO touchdowns, and TWO interceptions - let's just float into the off season, and into another "OFF"-season, while continuing to make excuses for multi-millionaires. It's going to take more than a $750 million upgrade to rid the dome of the stank you'll be breathing during the next home game. God willing, we'll still be here to talk about how long-time dedicated fans who fork out their hard-earned cash, choose to perceive themselves as powerless to affect the outcome. WHO DAT!!!

No more powerless than you, my friend. Stew on that. ;)

AsylumGuido 01-14-2023 04:33 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by lee909 (Post 967371)
Can they turn them down as he is co-ordinator

Yes they could if they so chose.

Sinner 01-14-2023 04:52 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 967376)
No more powerless than you, my friend. Stew on that. ;)

No less powerful.

AsylumGuido 01-14-2023 05:41 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Sinner (Post 967383)
No less powerful.

Yup. Understanding that power or lack of seems to be what is alluding.

Sinner 01-14-2023 05:44 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 967389)
Yup. Understanding that power or lack of seems to be what is alluding.

Obviously.

AsylumGuido 01-14-2023 05:53 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Sinner (Post 967390)
Obviously.

It's refreshing that you admit your difficulty. Bravo!

Sinner 01-14-2023 05:59 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 967393)
It's refreshing that you admit your difficulty. Bravo!

I would ask you to help me to better understand your perceived lack of power, as well as your difficulty in accessing and expressing your true power, but no doubt, you'll go on and on and on trying to justify the Victim Fetish, for probably as long as we'll have dismal seasons. I guess we'll have to grin and bear it. WHO DAT!!!

AsylumGuido 01-14-2023 06:03 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Sinner (Post 967396)
I would ask you to help me to better understand your perceived lack of power, as well as your difficulty in accessing and expressing your true power, but no doubt, you'll go on and on and on trying to justify the Victim Fetish, for probably as long as we'll have dismal seasons. I guess we'll have to grin and bear it. WHO DAT!!!

I'm going to be enjoying a very successful season next year myself. You keep those negative vibes going, Sinner, if you wish. Expecting the worst has to be unhealthy. :(

Sinner 01-14-2023 06:31 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 967398)
I'm going to be enjoying a very successful season next year myself. You keep those negative vibes going, Sinner, if you wish. Expecting the worst has to be unhealthy. :(

You will undoubtably be enjoying a stank in the dome, and a long-a$$ drive home in silence, if major personnel changes aren't made (and they clearly aren't being made). You will undoubtably be coming on here to tell everyone how good it feels, and although I believe positive vibes to be a good thing, pie in the sky can become pie to the face after a few games. You'll come on here and tell us how good it tastes. Cool.

I honestly didn't expect to lose to Sam Darnold (43 total passing yards, 0 touchdowns, 2 interceptions) at home, to close out this "promising" season... which, with or without my expectation, is probably the worst outcome imaginable. But here we are, celebrating more poorly-coached, dismal, inconsistent performances next year, while watching other teams in the Playoffs (Playoffs?!?!? Playoffs?!?!? You kiddin me?!?!?) I'm actually very healthy, thank God.

AsylumGuido 01-14-2023 06:34 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Sinner (Post 967399)
You will undoubtably be enjoying a stank in the dome, and a long-a$$ drive home in silence, if major personnel changes aren't made (and they clearly aren't being made). You will undoubtably be coming on here to tell everyone how good it feels, and although I believe positive vibes to be a good thing, pie in the sky can become pie to the face after a few games. You'll come on here and tell us how good it tastes. Cool.

I honestly didn't expect to lose to Sam Darnold (43 total passing yards, 0 touchdowns, 2 interceptions) at home, to close out this "promising" season... which, with or without my expectation, is probably the worst outcome imaginable. But here we are, celebrating more poorly-coached, dismal, inconsistent performances next year, while watching other teams in the Playoffs (Playoffs?!?!? Playoffs?!?!? You kiddin me?!?!?) I'm actually very healthy, thank God.

Have a nice off-season, Sinner. I hope get past this conflict in your life. Honestly.

And, yes, Who Dat!

Sinner 01-14-2023 06:43 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 967400)
Have a nice off-season, Sinner. I hope get past this conflict in your life. Honestly.

And, yes, Who Dat!

My Life is free of conflict. My Saints are in trouble... again.

I sincerely wish for you to enjoy the championship-caliber, well-coached teams in the Playoffs, (we DO after all, love the game of Football at the core), and a nice off-season, and any possible OFF-seasons we may have to endure as fans, under this (mis)management.

Honestly.

AsylumGuido 01-14-2023 06:49 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Sinner (Post 967401)
My Life is free of conflict. My Saints are in trouble... again.

I sincerely wish for you to enjoy the championship-caliber, well-coached teams in the Playoffs, (we DO after all, love the game of Football at the core), and a nice off-season, and any possible OFF-seasons we may have to endure as fans, under this (mis)management.

Honestly.

I always make the most of what is to come.

:bng:

K Major 01-14-2023 06:54 PM

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Meanwhile the Niners advance with a rookie @ QB.

Shanahan really knows how to get the most out of QB. Nothing in his coaching style says “game manager”.

505 yards of total offense today.

I hope the Saints coaches are taking notes.

K Major 01-14-2023 11:40 PM

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Shoutout to the Jacksonville Jaguars.

In one season Doug Pederson has taken his team to the postseason and won.

Just imagine what he could have done with the Saints roster in 2022/23 but apparently "continuity" was more important than winning games :rolleyes:.

SmashMouth 01-15-2023 12:26 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by K Major (Post 967428)
Shoutout to the Jacksonville Jaguars.

In one season Doug Pederson has taken his team to the postseason and won.

Just imagine what he could have done with the Saints roster in 2022/23 but apparently "continuity" was more important than winning games :rolleyes:.

Agreed, 1000%.

SmashMouth 01-15-2023 01:32 AM

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