Saints Retaining Carmichael and Rest of Staff

Sinner · 01-22-2023, 01:54 PM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

Mindset.

Some want excellence as much as anyone else but choose not to constantly spend their time *****ing and moaning about things out of their control.

I still cannot imagine, or get into the "mindset" of a customer, a consumer, a FAN that can just sit back and continue to believe that the law of supply and demand doesn't play a part in a (BIG) business, such as the Sports/Entertainment Industry. Of course it's in your control. You just don't want to demand better from your service provider. Y'all just sit back and enjoy mediocrity (at best), dismal performance (at its worst), and keep forking over your hard-earned bucks and life force to be content with more of the same. It's clinical Masochism.

K Major · 01-22-2023, 02:06 PM

Originally Posted by Sinner

I still cannot imagine, or get into the "mindset" of a customer, a consumer, a FAN that can just sit back and continue to believe that the law of supply and demand doesn't play a part in a (BIG) business, such as the Sports/Entertainment Industry. Of course it's in your control. You just don't want to demand better from your service provider. Y'all just sit back and enjoy mediocrity (at best), dismal performance (at its worst), and keep forking over your hard-earned bucks and life force to be content with more of the same. It's clinical Masochism.

LMAO !! Refer to POST #61.

And right on queue, the mediocrity MINDSET poster responds to defend

.

I only responded (ignore function is WONDERFUL) because I see you quoted his post.

If other opinions on this board doesn’t “jive” with his thoughts, it’s perceived as negative. Saintfan called it on this clown last year.

Meanwhile Dennis, Carmichael will stink it up again in 2023.

AsylumGuido · 01-22-2023, 02:12 PM

On cue, *****in' and moanin'.

And, yes, that ignore function is great!

Sinner · 01-22-2023, 02:46 PM

Originally Posted by K Major

LMAO !! Refer to POST #61.

And right on queue, the mediocrity MINDSET poster responds to defend .

I only responded (ignore function is WONDERFUL) because I see you quoted his post.

If other opinions on this board doesn’t “jive” with his thoughts, it’s perceived as negative. Saintfan called it on this clown last year.

Meanwhile Dennis, Carmichael will stink it up again in 2023.

IMAGINE a Fan Forum, or any situation really, where there is no "*****in and moanin" - while dismal season after dismal season rolls on, completely unchecked and accepted. A compliant, complacent, robotic world. Much more negative at its core, than any *****in' and moanin'.

saintsfan1976 · 01-23-2023, 06:44 AM

Originally Posted by blackangold

How do we know he was scheming plays? He didn’t call plays. We don’t know if he designed them. This was a true season seeing what he can do without Payton, and it was dog ****. If Pete comes back I’m taking a year off from the Saints.

Some folks here, and particularly here for some reason would defend anything the Saints do, they’d praise bringing jamarcus russell in.

I'm not defending "anything the Saints do", in fact I've been very vocal in my criticism. I even stated Pete wasn't effective without SP...

If you're suggesting the Offensive Coordinator of the last 16 years wasn't designing plays throughout the week then I'm not sure there's much more to debate about because that's just not plausible.

saintsfan1976 · 01-23-2023, 06:46 AM

Originally Posted by leilung

My two cents:
Pete had all the time in the world to ride right seat and see learn how the Saints were supposed to roll while coaching with SP. After all of that time, he finally got his chance to get behind the wheel. But instead of taking the wheel and rolling out, his play calling seems timid and inept. It's baffling how he was along for the ride all of those years and not able to make the transition to effectively drive the scoring!

This makes me kind of dubious about what he'll do differently in 2023.

I have to assume Pete won't be in sole possession of the offense moving forward.

Let's see what moves the Saints make next.

There's still an entire off-season ahead...

saintsfan1976 · 01-23-2023, 06:47 AM

Originally Posted by neugey

Watching the Jags and Chiefs call plays yesterday made me realize more than ever there's A LOT of improvement that needs to be made to our offensive approach. We have quite a ways to go to be competent.

Agreed. The word "stale" came up a lot.

TheOak · 01-23-2023, 07:21 AM

Originally Posted by Sinner

"If you enter into an argument with a fool, he has already won"

~ African Proverb

This one hits hard, as it shines a spotlight on the deluded people that will destroy friendships with people that they actually know arguing over people whom they have never met and will never meet. Most often done with layers or false virtue, proclamations of empathy, and an air of some fictional greater understanding.

“I’d rather lose an argument to you, than lose you to an argument.”

BakoSaint · 01-23-2023, 08:22 AM

Since we made a QB our highest paid TE and then fired the TE coach when that didn't work, maybe our next big coaching change will be to give Adam Troutman a big raise, start him at QB, and make firing the QB coach our only move in the next offseason if that doesn't work.

saintsfan1976 · 01-23-2023, 08:34 AM

Originally Posted by BakoSaint

Since we made a QB our highest paid TE and then fired the TE coach when that didn't work, maybe our next big coaching change will be to give Adam Troutman a big raise, start him at QB, and make firing the QB coach our only move in the next offseason if that doesn't work.

I'm detecting a slight bit of sarcasm there Bako

01-22-2023, 01:54 PM	#101
Sinner 1000 Posts + Join Date: Nov 2010 Posts: 3,875	Re: Saints Retaining Carmichael and Rest of Staff Originally Posted by AsylumGuido Mindset. Some want excellence as much as anyone else but choose not to constantly spend their time *****ing and moaning about things out of their control. I still cannot imagine, or get into the "mindset" of a customer, a consumer, a FAN that can just sit back and continue to believe that the law of supply and demand doesn't play a part in a (BIG) business, such as the Sports/Entertainment Industry. Of course it's in your control. You just don't want to demand better from your service provider. Y'all just sit back and enjoy mediocrity (at best), dismal performance (at its worst), and keep forking over your hard-earned bucks and life force to be content with more of the same. It's clinical Masochism. iceshack149 and K Major like this.
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01-22-2023, 02:06 PM	#102
K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,619 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Saints Retaining Carmichael and Rest of Staff Originally Posted by Sinner I still cannot imagine, or get into the "mindset" of a customer, a consumer, a FAN that can just sit back and continue to believe that the law of supply and demand doesn't play a part in a (BIG) business, such as the Sports/Entertainment Industry. Of course it's in your control. You just don't want to demand better from your service provider. Y'all just sit back and enjoy mediocrity (at best), dismal performance (at its worst), and keep forking over your hard-earned bucks and life force to be content with more of the same. It's clinical Masochism. LMAO !! Refer to POST #61. And right on queue, the mediocrity MINDSET poster responds to defend . I only responded (ignore function is WONDERFUL) because I see you quoted his post. If other opinions on this board doesn’t “jive” with his thoughts, it’s perceived as negative. Saintfan called it on this clown last year. Meanwhile Dennis, Carmichael will stink it up again in 2023. iceshack149 and Sinner like this.

01-22-2023, 02:12 PM	#103
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,220	Re: Saints Retaining Carmichael and Rest of Staff On cue, *****in' and moanin'. And, yes, that ignore function is great!

01-22-2023, 02:46 PM	#104
Sinner 1000 Posts + Join Date: Nov 2010 Posts: 3,875	Re: Saints Retaining Carmichael and Rest of Staff Originally Posted by K Major LMAO !! Refer to POST #61. And right on queue, the mediocrity MINDSET poster responds to defend . I only responded (ignore function is WONDERFUL) because I see you quoted his post. If other opinions on this board doesn’t “jive” with his thoughts, it’s perceived as negative. Saintfan called it on this clown last year. Meanwhile Dennis, Carmichael will stink it up again in 2023. IMAGINE a Fan Forum, or any situation really, where there is no "***in and moanin" - while dismal season after dismal season rolls on, completely unchecked and accepted. A compliant, complacent, robotic world. Much more negative at its core, than any ***in' and moanin'. leilung, SmashMouth and K Major like this.
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01-23-2023, 06:44 AM	#105
saintsfan1976 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Atlanta Posts: 10,832 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Saints Retaining Carmichael and Rest of Staff Originally Posted by blackangold How do we know he was scheming plays? He didn’t call plays. We don’t know if he designed them. This was a true season seeing what he can do without Payton, and it was dog ****. If Pete comes back I’m taking a year off from the Saints. Some folks here, and particularly here for some reason would defend anything the Saints do, they’d praise bringing jamarcus russell in. I'm not defending "anything the Saints do", in fact I've been very vocal in my criticism. I even stated Pete wasn't effective without SP... If you're suggesting the Offensive Coordinator of the last 16 years wasn't designing plays throughout the week then I'm not sure there's much more to debate about because that's just not plausible.

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01-23-2023, 06:46 AM	#106
saintsfan1976 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Atlanta Posts: 10,832 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Saints Retaining Carmichael and Rest of Staff Originally Posted by leilung My two cents: Pete had all the time in the world to ride right seat and see learn how the Saints were supposed to roll while coaching with SP. After all of that time, he finally got his chance to get behind the wheel. But instead of taking the wheel and rolling out, his play calling seems timid and inept. It's baffling how he was along for the ride all of those years and not able to make the transition to effectively drive the scoring! This makes me kind of dubious about what he'll do differently in 2023. I have to assume Pete won't be in sole possession of the offense moving forward. Let's see what moves the Saints make next. There's still an entire off-season ahead...

01-23-2023, 06:47 AM	#107
saintsfan1976 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Atlanta Posts: 10,832 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Saints Retaining Carmichael and Rest of Staff Originally Posted by neugey Watching the Jags and Chiefs call plays yesterday made me realize more than ever there's A LOT of improvement that needs to be made to our offensive approach. We have quite a ways to go to be competent. Agreed. The word "stale" came up a lot. SmashMouth likes this.

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TheOak 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Cypress Tx. Posts: 19,026	Re: Saints Retaining Carmichael and Rest of Staff Originally Posted by Sinner "If you enter into an argument with a fool, he has already won" ~ African Proverb This one hits hard, as it shines a spotlight on the deluded people that will destroy friendships with people that they actually know arguing over people whom they have never met and will never meet. Most often done with layers or false virtue, proclamations of empathy, and an air of some fictional greater understanding. “I’d rather lose an argument to you, than lose you to an argument.” saintsfan1976, Sinner and K Major like this.

01-23-2023, 08:22 AM	#109
BakoSaint 1000 Posts + Join Date: Dec 2018 Posts: 2,135	Re: Saints Retaining Carmichael and Rest of Staff Since we made a QB our highest paid TE and then fired the TE coach when that didn't work, maybe our next big coaching change will be to give Adam Troutman a big raise, start him at QB, and make firing the QB coach our only move in the next offseason if that doesn't work. SmashMouth, blackangold and K Major like this.
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01-23-2023, 08:34 AM	#110
saintsfan1976 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Atlanta Posts: 10,832 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Saints Retaining Carmichael and Rest of Staff Originally Posted by BakoSaint Since we made a QB our highest paid TE and then fired the TE coach when that didn't work, maybe our next big coaching change will be to give Adam Troutman a big raise, start him at QB, and make firing the QB coach our only move in the next offseason if that doesn't work. I'm detecting a slight bit of sarcasm there Bako SmashMouth likes this.