Saints Retaining Carmichael and Rest of Staff

neugey · 01-22-2023, 10:02 AM

Watching the Jags and Chiefs call plays yesterday made me realize more than ever there's A LOT of improvement that needs to be made to our offensive approach. We have quite a ways to go to be competent.

saintsfan1976 · 01-23-2023, 05:47 AM

Originally Posted by neugey

Watching the Jags and Chiefs call plays yesterday made me realize more than ever there's A LOT of improvement that needs to be made to our offensive approach. We have quite a ways to go to be competent.

Agreed. The word "stale" came up a lot.

iceshack149 · 01-23-2023, 09:56 AM

Originally Posted by neugey

Watching the Jags and Chiefs call plays yesterday made me realize more than ever there's A LOT of improvement that needs to be made to our offensive approach. We have quite a ways to go to be competent.

I was thinking the same thing watching the games this weekend. One play in particular, it was 3rd or 4th and inches and the QB pitched the ball outside to the RB and the team made 7 yards on the play. The Saints would've tried to punch it up the middle and would have been stopped.

Rugby Saint II · 01-26-2023, 01:24 PM

Originally Posted by iceshack149

I was thinking the same thing watching the games this weekend. One play in particular, it was 3rd or 4th and inches and the QB pitched the ball outside to the RB and the team made 7 yards on the play. The Saints would've tried to punch it up the middle and would have been stopped.

And yet, we retain the same offensive coordinator and play caller. It's just beyond me what the front office is thinking right now.

leilung · 01-22-2023, 11:17 AM

My two cents:
Pete had all the time in the world to ride right seat and see learn how the Saints were supposed to roll while coaching with SP. After all of that time, he finally got his chance to get behind the wheel. But instead of taking the wheel and rolling out, his play calling seems timid and inept. It's baffling how he was along for the ride all of those years and not able to make the transition to effectively drive the scoring!

This makes me kind of dubious about what he'll do differently in 2023.

Sinner · 01-22-2023, 12:20 PM

Originally Posted by leilung

My two cents:
Pete had all the time in the world to ride right seat and see learn how the Saints were supposed to roll while coaching with SP. After all of that time, he finally got his chance to get behind the wheel. But instead of taking the wheel and rolling out, his play calling seems timid and inept. It's baffling how he was along for the ride all of those years and not able to make the transition to effectively drive the scoring!

This makes me kind of dubious about what he'll do differently in 2023.

HARSH (BUT NECESSARY) REALITY CHECK ^^^

saintsfan1976 · 01-23-2023, 05:46 AM

Originally Posted by leilung

My two cents:
Pete had all the time in the world to ride right seat and see learn how the Saints were supposed to roll while coaching with SP. After all of that time, he finally got his chance to get behind the wheel. But instead of taking the wheel and rolling out, his play calling seems timid and inept. It's baffling how he was along for the ride all of those years and not able to make the transition to effectively drive the scoring!

This makes me kind of dubious about what he'll do differently in 2023.

I have to assume Pete won't be in sole possession of the offense moving forward.

Let's see what moves the Saints make next.

There's still an entire off-season ahead...

BakoSaint · 01-23-2023, 07:22 AM

Since we made a QB our highest paid TE and then fired the TE coach when that didn't work, maybe our next big coaching change will be to give Adam Troutman a big raise, start him at QB, and make firing the QB coach our only move in the next offseason if that doesn't work.

saintsfan1976 · 01-23-2023, 07:34 AM

Originally Posted by BakoSaint

Since we made a QB our highest paid TE and then fired the TE coach when that didn't work, maybe our next big coaching change will be to give Adam Troutman a big raise, start him at QB, and make firing the QB coach our only move in the next offseason if that doesn't work.

I'm detecting a slight bit of sarcasm there Bako

01-22-2023, 10:02 AM	#1
neugey Hu Dat! Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 6,857 Blog Entries: 13	Re: Saints Retaining Carmichael and Rest of Staff Watching the Jags and Chiefs call plays yesterday made me realize more than ever there's A LOT of improvement that needs to be made to our offensive approach. We have quite a ways to go to be competent. iceshack149, UK_WhoDat, leilung and 3 others like this.

01-23-2023, 05:47 AM	#2
saintsfan1976 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Atlanta Posts: 11,021 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Saints Retaining Carmichael and Rest of Staff Originally Posted by neugey Watching the Jags and Chiefs call plays yesterday made me realize more than ever there's A LOT of improvement that needs to be made to our offensive approach. We have quite a ways to go to be competent. Agreed. The word "stale" came up a lot. SmashMouth likes this.

01-23-2023, 09:56 AM	#3
iceshack149 1000 Posts + Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Fairbanks, AK Posts: 4,406 Blog Entries: 1	Re: Saints Retaining Carmichael and Rest of Staff Originally Posted by neugey Watching the Jags and Chiefs call plays yesterday made me realize more than ever there's A LOT of improvement that needs to be made to our offensive approach. We have quite a ways to go to be competent. I was thinking the same thing watching the games this weekend. One play in particular, it was 3rd or 4th and inches and the QB pitched the ball outside to the RB and the team made 7 yards on the play. The Saints would've tried to punch it up the middle and would have been stopped. SmashMouth, Rugby Saint II and K Major like this.

01-26-2023, 01:24 PM	#4
Rugby Saint II Bounty Money $$$ Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: 5800 Airline Dr. Metairie, LA. Posts: 24,151	Re: Saints Retaining Carmichael and Rest of Staff Originally Posted by iceshack149 I was thinking the same thing watching the games this weekend. One play in particular, it was 3rd or 4th and inches and the QB pitched the ball outside to the RB and the team made 7 yards on the play. The Saints would've tried to punch it up the middle and would have been stopped. And yet, we retain the same offensive coordinator and play caller. It's just beyond me what the front office is thinking right now. iceshack149 likes this.

01-22-2023, 11:17 AM	#5
leilung Booty Bandit Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: The Wastelands that are NJ Posts: 1,426	Re: Saints Retaining Carmichael and Rest of Staff My two cents: Pete had all the time in the world to ride right seat and see learn how the Saints were supposed to roll while coaching with SP. After all of that time, he finally got his chance to get behind the wheel. But instead of taking the wheel and rolling out, his play calling seems timid and inept. It's baffling how he was along for the ride all of those years and not able to make the transition to effectively drive the scoring! This makes me kind of dubious about what he'll do differently in 2023. Sinner likes this.
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01-22-2023, 12:20 PM	#6
Sinner 1000 Posts + Join Date: Nov 2010 Posts: 4,068	Re: Saints Retaining Carmichael and Rest of Staff Originally Posted by leilung My two cents: Pete had all the time in the world to ride right seat and see learn how the Saints were supposed to roll while coaching with SP. After all of that time, he finally got his chance to get behind the wheel. But instead of taking the wheel and rolling out, his play calling seems timid and inept. It's baffling how he was along for the ride all of those years and not able to make the transition to effectively drive the scoring! This makes me kind of dubious about what he'll do differently in 2023. HARSH (BUT NECESSARY) REALITY CHECK ^^^
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01-23-2023, 05:46 AM	#7
saintsfan1976 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Atlanta Posts: 11,021 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Saints Retaining Carmichael and Rest of Staff Originally Posted by leilung My two cents: Pete had all the time in the world to ride right seat and see learn how the Saints were supposed to roll while coaching with SP. After all of that time, he finally got his chance to get behind the wheel. But instead of taking the wheel and rolling out, his play calling seems timid and inept. It's baffling how he was along for the ride all of those years and not able to make the transition to effectively drive the scoring! This makes me kind of dubious about what he'll do differently in 2023. I have to assume Pete won't be in sole possession of the offense moving forward. Let's see what moves the Saints make next. There's still an entire off-season ahead...

01-23-2023, 07:22 AM	#8
BakoSaint 1000 Posts + Join Date: Dec 2018 Posts: 2,389	Re: Saints Retaining Carmichael and Rest of Staff Since we made a QB our highest paid TE and then fired the TE coach when that didn't work, maybe our next big coaching change will be to give Adam Troutman a big raise, start him at QB, and make firing the QB coach our only move in the next offseason if that doesn't work. SmashMouth, blackangold and K Major like this.
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01-23-2023, 07:34 AM	#9
saintsfan1976 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Atlanta Posts: 11,021 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Saints Retaining Carmichael and Rest of Staff Originally Posted by BakoSaint Since we made a QB our highest paid TE and then fired the TE coach when that didn't work, maybe our next big coaching change will be to give Adam Troutman a big raise, start him at QB, and make firing the QB coach our only move in the next offseason if that doesn't work. I'm detecting a slight bit of sarcasm there Bako SmashMouth likes this.