Rumor

SmashMouth · 01-23-2023, 11:13 AM

Originally Posted by K Major

Mike Thomas is gone …

Originally Posted by Sinner

Mike Who?

He's been gone. Despite his injury, he sure hasn't been a team player since he last played meaningful minutes.

rezburna · 01-23-2023, 11:19 AM

I hope we can find a way to keep MT.

SmashMouth · 01-23-2023, 11:19 AM

Originally Posted by rezburna

I hope we can find a way to keep MT.

His recent restructure made it unaffordable.

rezburna · 01-23-2023, 11:38 AM

Originally Posted by SmashMouth

His recent restructure made it unaffordable.

We say that but that boy Loomis always finds a way to finesse the books. I'm just not down on the guy. He had 3 TDs in 3 games this season before he went down again. He turned the tide against the Falcons in Game 1 to get us that W. AJ Terrell couldn't stop him. However, Olave and Shaheed do soften the blow of potentially losing him.

iceshack149 · 01-23-2023, 11:50 AM

Originally Posted by rezburna

I hope we can find a way to keep MT.

He's given up on us, Rez. It's time to end this relationship and don't look back.
He'll likely find another lover and play really well for a few games just to show us that he's happier but that relationship will end up just as sad as this one.

SmashMouth · 01-23-2023, 11:50 AM

Originally Posted by rezburna

We say that but that boy Loomis always finds a way to finesse the books. I'm just not down on the guy. He had 3 TDs in 3 games this season before he went down again. He turned the tide against the Falcons in Game 1 to get us that W. AJ Terrell couldn't stop him. However, Olave and Shaheed do soften the blow of potentially losing him.

Me neither... but we could have just left his contract alone. His balloon payment if he stays on the team is absurd.

rezburna · 01-23-2023, 11:53 AM

Originally Posted by iceshack149

He's given up on us, Rez. It's time to end this relationship and don't look back.
He'll likely find another lover and play really well for a few games just to show us that he's happier but that relationship will end up just as sad as this one.

I don't think he's given up on us. I do think we've given up on him though. The way the fans have talked about him for the last several years I couldn't blame him if he didn't want to be here.

SaintFanInATLHELL · 01-23-2023, 12:03 PM

Originally Posted by rezburna

I hope we can find a way to keep MT.

Impossible with the restructured contract. It requires guaranteeing him a $30 million roster bonus in six weeks without ever seeing him on the field, and then another guaranteed $30 million if he plays in only 4 games in 2023 for the Saints.

Business, salary cap and money have caught up to MT13's injury issues. The Saints' strategy of restructuring and kicking the money can down the road only works when the player is available and productive. MT13 has been neither going on 3 years now. So, when the big unguaranteed money wall of the contract is staring the organization in the face, it's inevitable that the team will cut bait.

SFIAH

AsylumGuido · 01-23-2023, 12:12 PM

Originally Posted by SmashMouth

Me neither... but we could have just left his contract alone. His balloon payment if he stays on the team is absurd.

Originally Posted by SaintFanInATLHELL

Impossible with the restructured contract. It requires guaranteeing him a $30 million roster bonus in six weeks without ever seeing him on the field, and then another guaranteed $30 million if he plays in only 4 games in 2023 for the Saints.

Business, salary cap and money have caught up to MT13's injury issues. The Saints' strategy of restructuring and kicking the money can down the road only works when the player is available and productive. MT13 has been neither going on 3 years now. So, when the big unguaranteed money wall of the contract is staring the organization in the face, it's inevitable that the team will cut bait.

SFIAH

His current contract can be totally renegotiated. Not going to say it will happen, but as long as both parties agree the contract can simply be "torn up" and replaced with a completely new one. It has happened many times in the past, usually with a player on a high dollar contract that wants to prove they can still play. The restructure earlier this year simply bought them more time to make a final decision.

He's probably still gone and I wouldn't blame him, like rez has pointed out, but it's not a done deal.

SmashMouth · 01-23-2023, 01:28 PM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

His current contract can be totally renegotiated. Not going to say it will happen, but as long as both parties agree the contract can simply be "torn up" and replaced with a completely new one. It has happened many times in the past, usually with a player on a high dollar contract that wants to prove they can still play. The restructure earlier this year simply bought them more time to make a final decision.

He's probably still gone and I wouldn't blame him, like rez has pointed out, but it's not a done deal.

Fair point... I guess we'll see IF he has any commitment left in him.

01-23-2023, 11:13 AM	#11
SmashMouth I donated, did you? Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Mandeville, LA Posts: 38,201 Blog Entries: 29	Re: Rumor Originally Posted by K Major Mike Thomas is gone … Originally Posted by Sinner Mike Who? He's been gone. Despite his injury, he sure hasn't been a team player since he last played meaningful minutes.

01-23-2023, 11:19 AM	#12
rezburna 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Kenner, LA Posts: 7,935	Re: Rumor I hope we can find a way to keep MT. cmike and shawnkytonk like this.

01-23-2023, 11:19 AM	#13
SmashMouth I donated, did you? Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Mandeville, LA Posts: 38,201 Blog Entries: 29	Re: Rumor Originally Posted by rezburna I hope we can find a way to keep MT. His recent restructure made it unaffordable. SaintFanInATLHELL and K Major like this.

01-23-2023, 11:38 AM	#14
rezburna 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Kenner, LA Posts: 7,935	Re: Rumor Originally Posted by SmashMouth His recent restructure made it unaffordable. We say that but that boy Loomis always finds a way to finesse the books. I'm just not down on the guy. He had 3 TDs in 3 games this season before he went down again. He turned the tide against the Falcons in Game 1 to get us that W. AJ Terrell couldn't stop him. However, Olave and Shaheed do soften the blow of potentially losing him. Crusader likes this.

01-23-2023, 11:50 AM	#15
iceshack149 1000 Posts + Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Fairbanks, AK Posts: 4,299 Blog Entries: 1	Re: Rumor Originally Posted by rezburna I hope we can find a way to keep MT. He's given up on us, Rez. It's time to end this relationship and don't look back. He'll likely find another lover and play really well for a few games just to show us that he's happier but that relationship will end up just as sad as this one.

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01-23-2023, 11:53 AM	#17
rezburna 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Kenner, LA Posts: 7,935	Re: Rumor Originally Posted by iceshack149 He's given up on us, Rez. It's time to end this relationship and don't look back. He'll likely find another lover and play really well for a few games just to show us that he's happier but that relationship will end up just as sad as this one. I don't think he's given up on us. I do think we've given up on him though. The way the fans have talked about him for the last several years I couldn't blame him if he didn't want to be here. Rsanders24, Crusader and cmike like this.

01-23-2023, 12:03 PM	#18
SaintFanInATLHELL The Professor Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Lithonia, GA Posts: 2,776	Re: Rumor Originally Posted by rezburna I hope we can find a way to keep MT. Impossible with the restructured contract. It requires guaranteeing him a $30 million roster bonus in six weeks without ever seeing him on the field, and then another guaranteed $30 million if he plays in only 4 games in 2023 for the Saints. Business, salary cap and money have caught up to MT13's injury issues. The Saints' strategy of restructuring and kicking the money can down the road only works when the player is available and productive. MT13 has been neither going on 3 years now. So, when the big unguaranteed money wall of the contract is staring the organization in the face, it's inevitable that the team will cut bait. SFIAH
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01-23-2023, 12:12 PM	#19
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,274	Re: Rumor Originally Posted by SmashMouth Me neither... but we could have just left his contract alone. His balloon payment if he stays on the team is absurd. Originally Posted by SaintFanInATLHELL Impossible with the restructured contract. It requires guaranteeing him a $30 million roster bonus in six weeks without ever seeing him on the field, and then another guaranteed $30 million if he plays in only 4 games in 2023 for the Saints. Business, salary cap and money have caught up to MT13's injury issues. The Saints' strategy of restructuring and kicking the money can down the road only works when the player is available and productive. MT13 has been neither going on 3 years now. So, when the big unguaranteed money wall of the contract is staring the organization in the face, it's inevitable that the team will cut bait. SFIAH His current contract can be totally renegotiated. Not going to say it will happen, but as long as both parties agree the contract can simply be "torn up" and replaced with a completely new one. It has happened many times in the past, usually with a player on a high dollar contract that wants to prove they can still play. The restructure earlier this year simply bought them more time to make a final decision. He's probably still gone and I wouldn't blame him, like rez has pointed out, but it's not a done deal.

01-23-2023, 01:28 PM	#20
SmashMouth I donated, did you? Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Mandeville, LA Posts: 38,201 Blog Entries: 29	Re: Rumor Originally Posted by AsylumGuido His current contract can be totally renegotiated. Not going to say it will happen, but as long as both parties agree the contract can simply be "torn up" and replaced with a completely new one. It has happened many times in the past, usually with a player on a high dollar contract that wants to prove they can still play. The restructure earlier this year simply bought them more time to make a final decision. He's probably still gone and I wouldn't blame him, like rez has pointed out, but it's not a done deal. Fair point... I guess we'll see IF he has any commitment left in him.