7 Saints free agents who could leave to join Ryan Nielsen in Atlanta

Rugby Saint II · 01-30-2023, 10:57 AM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

Personally, I'm planning on celebrating multiple Lombardi's in New Orleans before 2030.

If things don't turn around next year Allen and the crew will be gone. If it does turn around then all of this negative gloom and doom has been nothing but a waste of time and energy. Either way, perceived problem solved.

Breathe easy, Rugs. You've been through far, far, far worse than 7-10 in your life, my friend.

Yes I have my friend. But I didn't have to go through it watching Dennis Allen perform so poorly. I have no choice but to give him another year unlike the New Orleans Saints who had a choice to let him go this year.

AsylumGuido · 01-30-2023, 11:33 AM

Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II

Yes I have my friend. But I didn't have to go through it watching Dennis Allen perform so poorly. I have no choice but to give him another year unlike the New Orleans Saints who had a choice to let him go this year.

Did you realize that none of the five teams that fired their coaches had a better record than the Saints this past season? In fact, there were six teams that had the same or worse record than the Saints that also retained their head coaches.

Sinner · 01-30-2023, 11:53 AM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

Did you realize that none of the five teams that fired their coaches had a better record than the Saints this past season? In fact, there were six teams that had the same or worse record than the Saints that also retained their head coaches.

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Rugby Saint II · 01-30-2023, 05:54 PM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

Did you realize that none of the five teams that fired their coaches had a better record than the Saints this past season? In fact, there were six teams that had the same or worse record than the Saints that also retained their head coaches.

You make a good point. I would think that all the coaches that were fired probably have a better winning record for their coaching career though. I forget what Dennis Allen's record is but it is not worth remembering.

AsylumGuido · 01-30-2023, 06:17 PM

Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II

You make a good point. I would think that all the coaches that were fired probably have a better winning record for their coaching career though. I forget what Dennis Allen's record is but it is not worth remembering.

You might want to research that, Rugs.

Sinner · 01-30-2023, 06:59 PM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

You might want to research that, Rugs.

Rugs don't have to research anything. He/We LIVED the research this whole season in real life, and apparently, will be part of the ongoing research next season and possibly beyond. Oh well...

K Major · 01-30-2023, 07:11 PM

Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II

You make a good point. I would think that all the coaches that were fired probably have a better winning record for their coaching career though. I forget what Dennis Allen's record is but it is not worth remembering.

You're spot on Rugby, it's not worth your time & it's terrible.

Look no further than the season's finale at home vs the Panthers. Losing a game in which the Saints went into the final quarter nearly doubling the other team in yards. Sam Darnold had 2.8 QBR rating & we LOST.

The perfect analogy for why Dennis Allen will NEVER be anything but an "almost" guy as Head Coach. No killer instinct at all.

And the Saints get to do this all over again next season

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Sinner · 01-30-2023, 07:27 PM

Originally Posted by K Major

You're spot on Rugby, it's not worth your time & it's terrible.

Look no further than the season's finale at home vs the Panthers. Losing a game in which the Saints went into the final quarter nearly doubling the other team in yards. Sam Darnold had 2.8 QBR rating & we LOST.

The perfect analogy for why Dennis Allen will NEVER be anything but an "almost" guy as Head Coach. No killer instinct at all.

And the Saints get to do this all over again next season .

43 total passing yards. 2 interceptions. ZERO touchdowns. And they beat us IN OUR HOUSE. THAT'S how we closed out this pathetic season. Head Coach still ok? People talk about the days of paper bags... We need to talk about plastic bags right about now.

BakoSaint · 01-30-2023, 09:29 PM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

Did you realize that none of the five teams that fired their coaches had a better record than the Saints this past season? In fact, there were six teams that had the same or worse record than the Saints that also retained their head coaches.

But on the other hand its important to put that record in context. The Saints did not achieve 7-10 with ease. They took the most resources of any team in the league to achieve their record. They were one of 5 times to trade fully out of the 2023 1st round to win now in 2022. They were one of the few teams with a losing record at the midway mark that did not trade away any veterans to get draft resources or cap relief for the future. And they went through the 2022 season the most over the 2023 cap of any team in the league. They did not bench any starters who might be better now to give opportunities to younger players who could be important in the future. The Saints did everything to win now, and they won 7 games in the weakest division in the NFL. The Falcons and Panthers unloaded expensive vets, cut salary cap, kept their 2023 1st round picks, and finished with the same record as the Saints. Most of the teams that finished with worse records than the Saints could have achieved 7-10 too if they thought 7-10 would get them into Canton. Mickey Loomis and Dennis Allen operated as if 7-10 was the ultimate prize and would get them there, leaving us in such a position that its hard to blame us for keeping our coach when nobody else may want the job right now.

halloween 65 · 01-31-2023, 01:38 PM

Originally Posted by BakoSaint

But on the other hand its important to put that record in context. The Saints did not achieve 7-10 with ease. They took the most resources of any team in the league to achieve their record. They were one of 5 times to trade fully out of the 2023 1st round to win now in 2022. They were one of the few teams with a losing record at the midway mark that did not trade away any veterans to get draft resources or cap relief for the future. And they went through the 2022 season the most over the 2023 cap of any team in the league. They did not bench any starters who might be better now to give opportunities to younger players who could be important in the future. The Saints did everything to win now, and they won 7 games in the weakest division in the NFL. The Falcons and Panthers unloaded expensive vets, cut salary cap, kept their 2023 1st round picks, and finished with the same record as the Saints. Most of the teams that finished with worse records than the Saints could have achieved 7-10 too if they thought 7-10 would get them into Canton. Mickey Loomis and Dennis Allen operated as if 7-10 was the ultimate prize and would get them there, leaving us in such a position that its hard to blame us for keeping our coach when nobody else may want the job right now.

With the right HC and OC we could be pretty good in 2 years, the D is concerning me, I would trade 3 star players right off the bat. Kamara, Jordan, and Davis. Jordan is getting long in the tooth, Kamara should not be a featured back, and it pains me to even consider Davis because he's really good but he could net us a good pick to build so I threw him in there. We need to get younger team wise. I resign Davenport to a team friendly contract, get rid of Peat and let MT find a new home. MT want get the money from another team like us. I hope this is Allens last season here, but it will be interesting if we go 1-7 by mid season, he might get the ax then.

01-30-2023, 10:57 AM	#1
Rugby Saint II Bounty Money $$$ Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: 5800 Airline Dr. Metairie, LA. Posts: 24,133	Re: 7 Saints free agents who could leave to join Ryan Nielsen in Atlanta Originally Posted by AsylumGuido Personally, I'm planning on celebrating multiple Lombardi's in New Orleans before 2030. If things don't turn around next year Allen and the crew will be gone. If it does turn around then all of this negative gloom and doom has been nothing but a waste of time and energy. Either way, perceived problem solved. Breathe easy, Rugs. You've been through far, far, far worse than 7-10 in your life, my friend. Yes I have my friend. But I didn't have to go through it watching Dennis Allen perform so poorly. I have no choice but to give him another year unlike the New Orleans Saints who had a choice to let him go this year. Sinner likes this.

01-30-2023, 11:33 AM	#2
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,574	Re: 7 Saints free agents who could leave to join Ryan Nielsen in Atlanta Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II Yes I have my friend. But I didn't have to go through it watching Dennis Allen perform so poorly. I have no choice but to give him another year unlike the New Orleans Saints who had a choice to let him go this year. Did you realize that none of the five teams that fired their coaches had a better record than the Saints this past season? In fact, there were six teams that had the same or worse record than the Saints that also retained their head coaches.

01-30-2023, 11:53 AM	#3
Sinner 1000 Posts + Join Date: Nov 2010 Posts: 4,065	Re: 7 Saints free agents who could leave to join Ryan Nielsen in Atlanta Originally Posted by AsylumGuido Did you realize that none of the five teams that fired their coaches had a better record than the Saints this past season? In fact, there were six teams that had the same or worse record than the Saints that also retained their head coaches. .
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Rugby Saint II Bounty Money $$$ Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: 5800 Airline Dr. Metairie, LA. Posts: 24,133	Re: 7 Saints free agents who could leave to join Ryan Nielsen in Atlanta Originally Posted by AsylumGuido Did you realize that none of the five teams that fired their coaches had a better record than the Saints this past season? In fact, there were six teams that had the same or worse record than the Saints that also retained their head coaches. You make a good point. I would think that all the coaches that were fired probably have a better winning record for their coaching career though. I forget what Dennis Allen's record is but it is not worth remembering. Sinner likes this.

01-30-2023, 06:17 PM	#5
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,574	Re: 7 Saints free agents who could leave to join Ryan Nielsen in Atlanta Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II You make a good point. I would think that all the coaches that were fired probably have a better winning record for their coaching career though. I forget what Dennis Allen's record is but it is not worth remembering. You might want to research that, Rugs.

01-30-2023, 06:59 PM	#6
Sinner 1000 Posts + Join Date: Nov 2010 Posts: 4,065	Re: 7 Saints free agents who could leave to join Ryan Nielsen in Atlanta Originally Posted by AsylumGuido You might want to research that, Rugs. Rugs don't have to research anything. He/We LIVED the research this whole season in real life, and apparently, will be part of the ongoing research next season and possibly beyond. Oh well... K Major likes this.
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01-30-2023, 07:11 PM	#7
K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,798 Blog Entries: 3	Re: 7 Saints free agents who could leave to join Ryan Nielsen in Atlanta Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II You make a good point. I would think that all the coaches that were fired probably have a better winning record for their coaching career though. I forget what Dennis Allen's record is but it is not worth remembering. You're spot on Rugby, it's not worth your time & it's terrible. Look no further than the season's finale at home vs the Panthers. Losing a game in which the Saints went into the final quarter nearly doubling the other team in yards. Sam Darnold had 2.8 QBR rating & we LOST. The perfect analogy for why Dennis Allen will NEVER be anything but an "almost" guy as Head Coach. No killer instinct at all. And the Saints get to do this all over again next season . jnormand, Rugby Saint II and Sinner like this.

01-30-2023, 07:27 PM	#8
Sinner 1000 Posts + Join Date: Nov 2010 Posts: 4,065	Re: 7 Saints free agents who could leave to join Ryan Nielsen in Atlanta Originally Posted by K Major You're spot on Rugby, it's not worth your time & it's terrible. Look no further than the season's finale at home vs the Panthers. Losing a game in which the Saints went into the final quarter nearly doubling the other team in yards. Sam Darnold had 2.8 QBR rating & we LOST. The perfect analogy for why Dennis Allen will NEVER be anything but an "almost" guy as Head Coach. No killer instinct at all. And the Saints get to do this all over again next season . 43 total passing yards. 2 interceptions. ZERO touchdowns. And they beat us IN OUR HOUSE. THAT'S how we closed out this pathetic season. Head Coach still ok? People talk about the days of paper bags... We need to talk about plastic bags right about now. jnormand, Rugby Saint II and K Major like this.
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01-30-2023, 09:29 PM	#9
BakoSaint 1000 Posts + Join Date: Dec 2018 Posts: 2,347	Re: 7 Saints free agents who could leave to join Ryan Nielsen in Atlanta Originally Posted by AsylumGuido Did you realize that none of the five teams that fired their coaches had a better record than the Saints this past season? In fact, there were six teams that had the same or worse record than the Saints that also retained their head coaches. But on the other hand its important to put that record in context. The Saints did not achieve 7-10 with ease. They took the most resources of any team in the league to achieve their record. They were one of 5 times to trade fully out of the 2023 1st round to win now in 2022. They were one of the few teams with a losing record at the midway mark that did not trade away any veterans to get draft resources or cap relief for the future. And they went through the 2022 season the most over the 2023 cap of any team in the league. They did not bench any starters who might be better now to give opportunities to younger players who could be important in the future. The Saints did everything to win now, and they won 7 games in the weakest division in the NFL. The Falcons and Panthers unloaded expensive vets, cut salary cap, kept their 2023 1st round picks, and finished with the same record as the Saints. Most of the teams that finished with worse records than the Saints could have achieved 7-10 too if they thought 7-10 would get them into Canton. Mickey Loomis and Dennis Allen operated as if 7-10 was the ultimate prize and would get them there, leaving us in such a position that its hard to blame us for keeping our coach when nobody else may want the job right now. iceshack149, SmashMouth, Rugby Saint II and 3 others like this.
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01-31-2023, 01:38 PM	#10
halloween 65 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Grand Haven, Michigan by way of a little Mississippi River town in Louisiana Posts: 5,893	Re: 7 Saints free agents who could leave to join Ryan Nielsen in Atlanta Originally Posted by BakoSaint But on the other hand its important to put that record in context. The Saints did not achieve 7-10 with ease. They took the most resources of any team in the league to achieve their record. They were one of 5 times to trade fully out of the 2023 1st round to win now in 2022. They were one of the few teams with a losing record at the midway mark that did not trade away any veterans to get draft resources or cap relief for the future. And they went through the 2022 season the most over the 2023 cap of any team in the league. They did not bench any starters who might be better now to give opportunities to younger players who could be important in the future. The Saints did everything to win now, and they won 7 games in the weakest division in the NFL. The Falcons and Panthers unloaded expensive vets, cut salary cap, kept their 2023 1st round picks, and finished with the same record as the Saints. Most of the teams that finished with worse records than the Saints could have achieved 7-10 too if they thought 7-10 would get them into Canton. Mickey Loomis and Dennis Allen operated as if 7-10 was the ultimate prize and would get them there, leaving us in such a position that its hard to blame us for keeping our coach when nobody else may want the job right now. With the right HC and OC we could be pretty good in 2 years, the D is concerning me, I would trade 3 star players right off the bat. Kamara, Jordan, and Davis. Jordan is getting long in the tooth, Kamara should not be a featured back, and it pains me to even consider Davis because he's really good but he could net us a good pick to build so I threw him in there. We need to get younger team wise. I resign Davenport to a team friendly contract, get rid of Peat and let MT find a new home. MT want get the money from another team like us. I hope this is Allens last season here, but it will be interesting if we go 1-7 by mid season, he might get the ax then. Rugby Saint II and Sinner like this.