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this is a discussion within the Saints Community Forum; Originally Posted by dizzle88 It'll never be good until they hire full time officials. Allowing people who don't study film and learn from mistakes, to fully dictate the outcome of a game is ridiculous. I agree that they need full ...

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Old 02-08-2023, 04:52 PM   #11
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Originally Posted by dizzle88 View Post
It'll never be good until they hire full time officials.

Allowing people who don't study film and learn from mistakes, to fully dictate the outcome of a game is ridiculous.
I agree that they need full time officials, but they'll never be as good as the replays that are relayed in slow motion. They'll always miss calls because they are human. There's no way around it. The only solution is an "eye in the sky" replay official that can make quick calls one way or the other via a bank of video monitors and a buzzer or mic to the lead official to either throw a flag or pick one up. Even with that there will be missed calls both ways. It cannot be totally avoided.
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Old 02-08-2023, 04:54 PM   #12
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Originally Posted by AsylumGuido View Post
I agree that they need full time officials, but they'll never be as good as the replays that are relayed in slow motion. They'll always miss calls because they are human. There's no way around it. The only solution is an "eye in the sky" replay official that can make quick calls one way or the other via a bank of video monitors and a buzzer or mic to the lead official to either throw a flag or pick one up. Even with that there will be missed calls both ways. It cannot be totally avoided.
Yeah that's true, the main annoyance to me is how each crew seems to have a difference of opinion and that's what I think having them study film would resolve.

One crew let WR's and DB's hand fight, another crew will throw a flag at the slightest touch between them.

Zero consistency and that's what annoys me.
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Old 02-08-2023, 04:57 PM   #13
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Yeah that's true, the main annoyance to me is how each crew seems to have a difference of opinion and that's what I think having them study film would resolve.

One crew let WR's and DB's hand fight, another crew will throw a flag at the slightest touch between them.

Zero consistency and that's what annoys me.
Agree completely with that. One would hope that full time officials could develop at least somewhat of a more consistent degree of judgement and/or definition of infractions.
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No it's not. I'm not *****ing about new rules and pussifying contact, that's fine. I am all for rules that are put in place for safety. What pisses me off is blatant no calls, lop sided officiating, and when they “let teams play” until it's conveniently late in the fourth qtr that pisses me off.
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Old 02-08-2023, 05:43 PM   #15
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No it's not. I'm not *****ing about new rules and pussifying contact, that's fine. I am all for rules that are put in place for safety. What pisses me off is blatant no calls, lop sided officiating, and when they “let teams play” until it's conveniently late in the fourth qtr that pisses me off.
Inconsistent and incompetent officiating, at times, with no check. I can agree with that.
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Old 02-09-2023, 01:30 PM   #16
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No it's not. I'm not *****ing about new rules and pussifying contact, that's fine. I am all for rules that are put in place for safety. What pisses me off is blatant no calls, lop sided officiating, and when they “let teams play” until it's conveniently late in the fourth qtr that pisses me off.
I'm a rugby referee and appreciate how a good referee controls the game. Bad refereeing is costing this game any respect it may have had in the past. Well, that and Rodger Goodell running the show.
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Old 02-09-2023, 03:04 PM   #17
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I'm a rugby referee and appreciate how a good referee controls the game. Bad refereeing is costing this game any respect it may have had in the past. Well, that and Rodger Goodell running the show.
I really don't think the officiating as any worse than it's ever been. The problem is that with replays, multiple camera angles, and remarkable video quality we are seeing more of those bad calls and non-calls than ever before.
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Old 02-09-2023, 06:55 PM   #18
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I really don't think the officiating as any worse than it's ever been. The problem is that with replays, multiple camera angles, and remarkable video quality we are seeing more of those bad calls and non-calls than ever before.
The XFL & AAFL "SKY JUDGE" seemed to fix all of those problems, almost instant calls. Raises the question WHY doesn't the "most popular form of ENTERTAINMENT' implement the same system? Is it that the ENTERTAINMENT portion of SPORTS/ENTERTAINMENT may become more SPORTS oriented?
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Old 02-09-2023, 07:00 PM   #19
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The XFL & AAFL "SKY JUDGE" seemed to fix all of those problems, almost instant calls. Raises the question WHY doesn't the "most popular form of ENTERTAINMENT' implement the same system? Is it that the ENTERTAINMENT portion of SPORTS/ENTERTAINMENT may become more SPORTS oriented?
Support is growing for the "sky judge" type addition for the very reason that you point out, the entertainment value. That value is being attacked over the bad calls and non-calls. If it was for the "sport" alone it would never be addressed.
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Old 02-09-2023, 07:16 PM   #20
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Support is growing for the "sky judge" type addition for the very reason that you point out, the entertainment value. That value is being attacked over the bad calls and non-calls. If it was for the "sport" alone it would never be addressed.
I brought up that the "SKY JUDGE" would push the SPORTS side more into the forefront by taking away the "power" of the field officials. The viewer sees what the SKY JUDGE sees.

Why the call for full time officials? If as you say "If it was for the "sport" alone it would never be addressed." Sounds like the line from North Dallas Fourty" to me.........."Every time I call it a business (ENTERTAINMENT), you call it a game!(SPORTS) And every time I call it a game,(SPORTS) you call it a business!(ENTERTAINMENT)"

Full time officials could control the "ENTERTAINMENT SIDE" AKA "SCRIPTED" much better, couldn't they?
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