Spags wins 3rd SB as d-coord

Rugby Saint II · 02-14-2023, 01:04 PM

Dennis Allen was not that good of a defensive coordinator before Sean Payton began drafting defense with high draft picks.

saintsfan1976 · 02-14-2023, 01:08 PM

The further removed we are from Sean Payton, the clearer mistakes become.

I'm not saying they were all on SP, just that there are many more than I realized at the time.

SmashMouth · 02-14-2023, 01:37 PM

Originally Posted by saintsfan1976

The further removed we are from Sean Payton, the clearer mistakes become.

I'm not saying they were all on SP, just that there are many more than I realized at the time.

Ultimately as the HC, they are. Same for the non calls which could have been avoided if he knows the rule book better .

AsylumGuido · 02-14-2023, 01:47 PM

Originally Posted by SmashMouth

Ultimately as the HC, they are. Same for the non calls which could have been avoided if he knows the rule book better .

Exactly what are these instances that you keep mentioning of not knowing the rule book?

The Meat Guy · 02-14-2023, 05:23 PM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

Exactly what are these instances that you keep mentioning of not knowing the rule book?

The very same rule BB used to run clock off the game. If your memory fails you, the two miracle plays at the end of two playoffs games. When I confronted SP at the meat counter when he was buying some ribeyes, he told me to mind my meat. Very SP like isn't it?

AsylumGuido · 02-14-2023, 05:31 PM

Originally Posted by The Meat Guy

The very same rule BB used to run clock off the game. If your memory fails you, the two miracle plays at the end of two playoffs games. When I confronted SP at the meat counter when he was buying some ribeyes, he told me to mind my meat. Very SP like isn't it?

What rule was that? How many times has it been used? Has it ever been used by any Hall of Fame head coach before Belichick used it? One would think that any other coach that has never used it must suck as badly as Sean Payton, right?

spkb25 · 02-14-2023, 04:01 PM

Watching the 2006 team vs eagles in playoffs. Can still remember this and the feelings like yesterday. Loved this team and the game. Little more than a decade later I hated the game, the team, and the players.

Deuce was good man, damn

darksoul35 · 02-14-2023, 05:25 PM

I'll happily take him as head coach right now. I'm not even really sure if I'm being sarcastic or not.

BakoSaint · 02-18-2023, 07:58 PM

Spags defense gave up 35 points in Super Bowl 57, the most by a winning team in Super Bowl history. That defensive performance would likely have lost all 56 previous Super Bowls, as no team won giving up that many points before. Clearly he is a passable defensive coordinator on the right team, good enough to be a game manager of the defense and get it through with the type of gentleman's C's that will be good enough with the best QB in the game and the best play caller in the game lighting up the offense. But overall, Spags is a guy who was there and got a free ring. He is a Trent Dilfer of defensive coordinators.

K Major · 02-19-2023, 11:46 AM

Originally Posted by BakoSaint

Spags defense gave up 35 points in Super Bowl 57, the most by a winning team in Super Bowl history. That defensive performance would likely have lost all 56 previous Super Bowls, as no team won giving up that many points before. Clearly he is a passable defensive coordinator on the right team, good enough to be a game manager of the defense and get it through with the type of gentleman's C's that will be good enough with the best QB in the game and the best play caller in the game lighting up the offense. But overall, Spags is a guy who was there and got a free ring. He is a Trent Dilfer of defensive coordinators.

Andy Reid, Patrick & that "system" are just that good. Sean Payton is gonna find out soon enough

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Elite players/elite coaching, KC will always have a shot at winning. Even with a middle-of-the-road DC like Spaggs. But hey I give him credit, he is finding a way.

You can't deposit excuses if you want those Lombardi's

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02-14-2023, 01:04 PM	#1
Rugby Saint II Bounty Money $$$ Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: 5800 Airline Dr. Metairie, LA. Posts: 24,179	Re: Spags wins 3rd SB as d-coord Dennis Allen was not that good of a defensive coordinator before Sean Payton began drafting defense with high draft picks.

02-14-2023, 01:08 PM	#2
saintsfan1976 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Atlanta Posts: 11,046 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Spags wins 3rd SB as d-coord The further removed we are from Sean Payton, the clearer mistakes become. I'm not saying they were all on SP, just that there are many more than I realized at the time.

02-14-2023, 01:37 PM	#3
SmashMouth I donated, did you? Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Mandeville, LA Posts: 38,961 Blog Entries: 29	Re: Spags wins 3rd SB as d-coord Originally Posted by saintsfan1976 The further removed we are from Sean Payton, the clearer mistakes become. I'm not saying they were all on SP, just that there are many more than I realized at the time. Ultimately as the HC, they are. Same for the non calls which could have been avoided if he knows the rule book better .

02-14-2023, 01:47 PM	#4
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,701	Re: Spags wins 3rd SB as d-coord Originally Posted by SmashMouth Ultimately as the HC, they are. Same for the non calls which could have been avoided if he knows the rule book better . Exactly what are these instances that you keep mentioning of not knowing the rule book?

02-14-2023, 05:23 PM	#5
The Meat Guy Football Fanatic Join Date: Oct 2019 Location: WF Meat Counter Posts: 40	Re: Spags wins 3rd SB as d-coord Originally Posted by AsylumGuido Exactly what are these instances that you keep mentioning of not knowing the rule book? The very same rule BB used to run clock off the game. If your memory fails you, the two miracle plays at the end of two playoffs games. When I confronted SP at the meat counter when he was buying some ribeyes, he told me to mind my meat. Very SP like isn't it? K Major likes this.

02-14-2023, 05:31 PM	#6
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,701	Re: Spags wins 3rd SB as d-coord Originally Posted by The Meat Guy The very same rule BB used to run clock off the game. If your memory fails you, the two miracle plays at the end of two playoffs games. When I confronted SP at the meat counter when he was buying some ribeyes, he told me to mind my meat. Very SP like isn't it? What rule was that? How many times has it been used? Has it ever been used by any Hall of Fame head coach before Belichick used it? One would think that any other coach that has never used it must suck as badly as Sean Payton, right?

02-14-2023, 04:01 PM	#7
spkb25 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Baltimore, MD Posts: 13,145	Re: Spags wins 3rd SB as d-coord Watching the 2006 team vs eagles in playoffs. Can still remember this and the feelings like yesterday. Loved this team and the game. Little more than a decade later I hated the game, the team, and the players. Deuce was good man, damn

02-14-2023, 05:25 PM	#8
darksoul35 1000 Posts + Join Date: Sep 2012 Posts: 1,044	Re: Spags wins 3rd SB as d-coord I'll happily take him as head coach right now. I'm not even really sure if I'm being sarcastic or not.
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02-18-2023, 07:58 PM	#9
BakoSaint 1000 Posts + Join Date: Dec 2018 Posts: 2,408	Re: Spags wins 3rd SB as d-coord Spags defense gave up 35 points in Super Bowl 57, the most by a winning team in Super Bowl history. That defensive performance would likely have lost all 56 previous Super Bowls, as no team won giving up that many points before. Clearly he is a passable defensive coordinator on the right team, good enough to be a game manager of the defense and get it through with the type of gentleman's C's that will be good enough with the best QB in the game and the best play caller in the game lighting up the offense. But overall, Spags is a guy who was there and got a free ring. He is a Trent Dilfer of defensive coordinators. MatthewT and rezburna like this.
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02-19-2023, 11:46 AM	#10
K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,840 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Spags wins 3rd SB as d-coord Originally Posted by BakoSaint Spags defense gave up 35 points in Super Bowl 57, the most by a winning team in Super Bowl history. That defensive performance would likely have lost all 56 previous Super Bowls, as no team won giving up that many points before. Clearly he is a passable defensive coordinator on the right team, good enough to be a game manager of the defense and get it through with the type of gentleman's C's that will be good enough with the best QB in the game and the best play caller in the game lighting up the offense. But overall, Spags is a guy who was there and got a free ring. He is a Trent Dilfer of defensive coordinators. Andy Reid, Patrick & that "system" are just that good. Sean Payton is gonna find out soon enough . Elite players/elite coaching, KC will always have a shot at winning. Even with a middle-of-the-road DC like Spaggs. But hey I give him credit, he is finding a way. You can't deposit excuses if you want those Lombardi's .