Great -- we get the Packers

BrooksMustGo · 10-05-2005, 10:54 AM

Originally Posted by saintswhodi

If we lose this game, it's because we gave it away.

And that differs how from when we usually lose?

WhoDi, that is an excellent point. I guess it depends on how charitable we are on Sunday?

Do not stick a fork in Favre. If he was on any other team in the NFL he would not be on an 0-4 team. This defense is crap, easily worse than the Saints. The receivers are junk. Driver has caused at least two interceptions this year already. No tightend, no running game and the o-line is plain awful. Favre's the only good player on this team and everyone is blaming him for the team's failures.

I'm not totally anti-Favre here, but there's no way he can succeed with what they have to work with. When the Packers decided to let their 2 all pro guards leave in free agency, it sure looked like they had given up on running the football. Couple that with a defense that was broken last year and it isn't a recipe for success. The smart move for the Packers would have been to deal Favre for a fistful of picks to a team like Miami and let Rodgers play. As it stands right now, the Packers could probably still deal him to the Jets, Ravens, Raiders or Chiefs who need to win right now and leverage him into several picks that would let the packers rebuild.

It seems like Favre won't be able to be productive as long as this rebuild is going to take. The Favre era may well be over.

yasoon · 10-05-2005, 11:41 AM

This game will come down more to our offense's consistent ability to score than it will what Favre does. Even in his good games, he'll put a couple of balls up for grabs. We're gonna have to come down with a couple of them.

Their D is banged up and not that good even whn healthy. The offense just needs to play clean and get the ball in the endzone. 19 points aint gonna do it this week. We'll need to throw about 28 on the board to win.

As I have already said, the Saints against a team on a bad slide? We lose this game 9 outta 10 times.

I really don't see how any of you can say "these guys suck, therefore we win".
I appreciate the optimism, but how many times has that exact logic failed in the Haslett era?

We have to fear the screen pass in this game. Carolina bottled it up pretty good.

Logically, yes, we win this game. But, the Saints aren't logical. GB has O line problems, injuries at reciever, bad/injured defense. We should be able to impose our will on them, but sh1t.......we won't.

Packers 31, Saints 24 ( I really hoope I'm wrong.)

iceshack149 · 10-05-2005, 01:40 PM

"The Favre era may well be over." Quote from BMG

That I agree with. The Packers picking a quarterback in the first round with so many glaring needs says it all. It says good-bye Favre and the new GM is an idiot.
Beef up the o-line, get a linebacker, get a player for the secondary.
Favre is aging, yes. He seems to look older each week. But That's a position that they'll need later, not now.

BreesFN9 · 10-05-2005, 01:54 PM

I Agree that a team that is down is the most dangerous. The Packers know that if they can win ( At Home ) they R still ( Sad To SAY ) in contention for their Division! Yes Division, not Wildcard. I think they will step up and play us tough, but we will prevail.

People are worried about Favre as We should be, He's a competitor even now at 0-4. How Do U stop Favre??? You keep him off the field! We Run the Ball 30-40 times and eat up the clock all game long. We were great at the 1 and 2 yd runs last week that slowly ate the time away. No problem do that 3 times, eat up the clock and then we know the GB Secondary is good for an easy 8-80yds at any minute. So we get to third and 7, or third and 4, Big Deal. I think our 3rd down convertions will be good this week and we should put up 30 pts. I say 31-17 Saints. We need to score first in this one and kick them while they are down, not the other way around allowing them to get confidence.

Savant · 10-05-2005, 03:43 PM

Frankly I'm worried about every game. Who saw the 2nd meltdown at Giants Stadium coming. I knew Eli was gonna be something special one day, but I didn't think he'd "bloom" this soon. Let's all be honest. Most of the time we beat ourselves. Plain and simple. Why did we win last week. Cause we only had a handfull of penalties and no turnovers. That's always a good recipe for winning.

CASaintsFan · 10-06-2005, 04:33 AM

The bottom line is that this is the kind of game this team needs to win if it's serious about being a playoff team. GB is down, the Saints have to keep them down. In the end, it comes down to consistency. Can this team show up and give a consistently solid effort two weeks in a row?

Tobias-Reiper · 10-06-2005, 08:40 AM

Originally Posted by CASaintsFan

The bottom line is that this is the kind of game this team needs to win if it's serious about being a playoff team.

...dude, this is the NFC, every team is a playoff team... like I said on another thread, this year there is a very good chance that someone is going to win a division with a sub .500 record...

..just watch the games and enjoy them...

TheGambler · 10-06-2005, 09:30 AM

Originally Posted by StallworthFN

How Do U stop Favre??? You keep him off the field! We Run the Ball 30-40 times and eat up the clock all game long.

This man speaks the truth....

Anybody remember our "playoff game that woulda been" against the Packers last year? Didn't Haslett say the Saints would have kicked the Packers' asses, or something along those lines.......saying "we would have gone jumbo on them the whole time". Let's hope he can shove Deuce and Antowain down their throats this Sunday.

yasoon · 10-06-2005, 09:43 AM

The bottom line is that this is the kind of game this team needs to win if it's serious about being a playoff team.

Amen brother. Amen.

Every win is tough in this league, but you gotta beat the beat up teams, cuz there's always a good one waiting for you the next week.

In this case, it's our nemesis, the falcons.

Haz is already paying lip service to how tough this game will be....so he's gonna coach em up

TallySaint · 10-06-2005, 12:37 PM

No turnovers vs. Packers would really be nice.

8)

10-05-2005, 10:54 AM	#21
BrooksMustGo 1000 Posts + Join Date: Sep 2003 Posts: 1,762	Originally Posted by saintswhodi If we lose this game, it's because we gave it away. And that differs how from when we usually lose? WhoDi, that is an excellent point. I guess it depends on how charitable we are on Sunday? Do not stick a fork in Favre. If he was on any other team in the NFL he would not be on an 0-4 team. This defense is crap, easily worse than the Saints. The receivers are junk. Driver has caused at least two interceptions this year already. No tightend, no running game and the o-line is plain awful. Favre's the only good player on this team and everyone is blaming him for the team's failures. I'm not totally anti-Favre here, but there's no way he can succeed with what they have to work with. When the Packers decided to let their 2 all pro guards leave in free agency, it sure looked like they had given up on running the football. Couple that with a defense that was broken last year and it isn't a recipe for success. The smart move for the Packers would have been to deal Favre for a fistful of picks to a team like Miami and let Rodgers play. As it stands right now, the Packers could probably still deal him to the Jets, Ravens, Raiders or Chiefs who need to win right now and leverage him into several picks that would let the packers rebuild. It seems like Favre won't be able to be productive as long as this rebuild is going to take. The Favre era may well be over.

10-05-2005, 11:41 AM	#22
yasoon 500th Post Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 594	This game will come down more to our offense's consistent ability to score than it will what Favre does. Even in his good games, he'll put a couple of balls up for grabs. We're gonna have to come down with a couple of them. Their D is banged up and not that good even whn healthy. The offense just needs to play clean and get the ball in the endzone. 19 points aint gonna do it this week. We'll need to throw about 28 on the board to win. As I have already said, the Saints against a team on a bad slide? We lose this game 9 outta 10 times. I really don't see how any of you can say "these guys suck, therefore we win". I appreciate the optimism, but how many times has that exact logic failed in the Haslett era? We have to fear the screen pass in this game. Carolina bottled it up pretty good. Logically, yes, we win this game. But, the Saints aren't logical. GB has O line problems, injuries at reciever, bad/injured defense. We should be able to impose our will on them, but sh1t.......we won't. Packers 31, Saints 24 ( I really hoope I'm wrong.)
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10-05-2005, 01:54 PM	#24
BreesFN9 500th Post Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Vancouver, B.C. Posts: 596	I Agree that a team that is down is the most dangerous. The Packers know that if they can win ( At Home ) they R still ( Sad To SAY ) in contention for their Division! Yes Division, not Wildcard. I think they will step up and play us tough, but we will prevail. People are worried about Favre as We should be, He's a competitor even now at 0-4. How Do U stop Favre??? You keep him off the field! We Run the Ball 30-40 times and eat up the clock all game long. We were great at the 1 and 2 yd runs last week that slowly ate the time away. No problem do that 3 times, eat up the clock and then we know the GB Secondary is good for an easy 8-80yds at any minute. So we get to third and 7, or third and 4, Big Deal. I think our 3rd down convertions will be good this week and we should put up 30 pts. I say 31-17 Saints. We need to score first in this one and kick them while they are down, not the other way around allowing them to get confidence.
	JENGA....I Win!

10-05-2005, 03:43 PM	#25
Savant 100th Post Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 275	Frankly I'm worried about every game. Who saw the 2nd meltdown at Giants Stadium coming. I knew Eli was gonna be something special one day, but I didn't think he'd "bloom" this soon. Let's all be honest. Most of the time we beat ourselves. Plain and simple. Why did we win last week. Cause we only had a handfull of penalties and no turnovers. That's always a good recipe for winning.
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10-06-2005, 04:33 AM	#26
CASaintsFan Rookie Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 6	The bottom line is that this is the kind of game this team needs to win if it's serious about being a playoff team. GB is down, the Saints have to keep them down. In the end, it comes down to consistency. Can this team show up and give a consistently solid effort two weeks in a row?
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10-05-2005, 01:40 PM	#23
iceshack149 1000 Posts + Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Fairbanks, AK Posts: 4,299 Blog Entries: 1	"The Favre era may well be over." Quote from BMG That I agree with. The Packers picking a quarterback in the first round with so many glaring needs says it all. It says good-bye Favre and the new GM is an idiot. Beef up the o-line, get a linebacker, get a player for the secondary. Favre is aging, yes. He seems to look older each week. But That's a position that they'll need later, not now.

10-06-2005, 08:40 AM	#27
Tobias-Reiper Merces Letifer Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 4,161	Originally Posted by CASaintsFan The bottom line is that this is the kind of game this team needs to win if it's serious about being a playoff team. ...dude, this is the NFC, every team is a playoff team... like I said on another thread, this year there is a very good chance that someone is going to win a division with a sub .500 record... ..just watch the games and enjoy them...

10-06-2005, 09:30 AM	#28
TheGambler 500th Post Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 610	Originally Posted by StallworthFN How Do U stop Favre??? You keep him off the field! We Run the Ball 30-40 times and eat up the clock all game long. This man speaks the truth.... Anybody remember our "playoff game that woulda been" against the Packers last year? Didn't Haslett say the Saints would have kicked the Packers' asses, or something along those lines.......saying "we would have gone jumbo on them the whole time". Let's hope he can shove Deuce and Antowain down their throats this Sunday.
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10-06-2005, 09:43 AM	#29
yasoon 500th Post Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 594	The bottom line is that this is the kind of game this team needs to win if it's serious about being a playoff team. Amen brother. Amen. Every win is tough in this league, but you gotta beat the beat up teams, cuz there's always a good one waiting for you the next week. In this case, it's our nemesis, the falcons. Haz is already paying lip service to how tough this game will be....so he's gonna coach em up
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10-06-2005, 12:37 PM	#30
TallySaint 1000 Posts + Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Tallahassee Posts: 1,367	No turnovers vs. Packers would really be nice. 8)