Kaden Elliss says 'numbers and scheme' will determine return to Saints in 2023

02-24-2023, 02:00 PM

I don't disagree that we run nickel more often than not, but our base is considered a 4-3. Any and every site I've checked list that as our base package. We can continue to talk in circles, but the fact of the matter is that you said we don't run a 4-3... and we do. Maybe not as much, but we do. Should Elliss re-sign and play at the level that he did during the second half of the season, we're probably going to see more and more of it as well.

AsylumGuido · 02-24-2023, 02:48 PM

Originally Posted by papz

I don't disagree that we run nickel more often than not, but our base is considered a 4-3. Any and every site I've checked list that as our base package. We can continue to talk in circles, but the fact of the matter is that you said we don't run a 4-3... and we do. Maybe not as much, but we do. Should Elliss re-sign and play at the level that he did during the second half of the season, we're probably going to see more and more of it as well.

I never said we never run a 4-3. It may only be a handful of times per game,
but yes, we do run it on occasion. But I also said our base is going to be labeled as a 4-3 not because of three LB's, but because of the four down linemen. The opponent's offensive scheme drives the defensive alignment in Allen's defense for the most part. As long as the emphasis remains on the passing game we can probably expect the third LB on the field to remain the rare exception rather than the norm for the Saints moving forward.

papz · 02-24-2023, 02:51 PM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

That would be great if we played a 4-3 defense. We don't. We field a 4-2-5 the vast majority of the time. Don't get me wrong, I would love it if we keep him, but I really think he wants to go somewhere that he can be the fulltime starter. It's not so much about the money, but more so the playing time.

Either I'm crazy or you just like to hear yourself talk.

vpheughan · 02-24-2023, 04:34 PM

Originally Posted by papz

Either I'm crazy or you just like to hear yourself talk.

SIRIUSLY......He just likes to hear himself talk.

halloween 65 · 02-24-2023, 05:05 PM

Originally Posted by papz

Either I'm crazy or you just like to hear yourself talk.

Ur not crazy!!

AsylumGuido · 02-24-2023, 05:09 PM

Originally Posted by papz

Either I'm crazy or you just like to hear yourself talk.

Just typing, papz. It would be crazy for sure if someone talked as they typed.

Rugby Saint II · 02-26-2023, 04:17 PM

Demario Davis isn't getting any younger and I am worried just how long he can play at this level at his age. He's been lucky with injuries and we need every healthy player we can get. I would like to resign Kaden Ellis and use the 4-3 a little more often since we don't have very good safety depth.

AsylumGuido · 02-26-2023, 06:02 PM

Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II

Demario Davis isn't getting any younger and I am worried just how long he can play at this level at his age. He's been lucky with injuries and we need every healthy player we can get. I would like to resign Kaden Ellis and use the 4-3 a little more often since we don't have very good safety depth.

No, Demario isn't getting any younger, but at the level he is playing now he can easily be the best LB on our roster for the next five years. The guy is a physical freak.

K Major · 02-27-2023, 10:44 AM

Originally Posted by papz

Either I'm crazy or you just like to hear yourself talk.

You definitely aren't crazy Papz

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02-24-2023, 02:00 PM	#21
Threaded by papz Problem? Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: New Orleans Posts: 11,753 Rating: (0 votes - average) I don't disagree that we run nickel more often than not, but our base is considered a 4-3. Any and every site I've checked list that as our base package. We can continue to talk in circles, but the fact of the matter is that you said we don't run a 4-3... and we do. Maybe not as much, but we do. Should Elliss re-sign and play at the level that he did during the second half of the season, we're probably going to see more and more of it as well.
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02-24-2023, 02:48 PM	#22
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,274	Re: Kaden Elliss says 'numbers and scheme' will determine return to Saints in 2023 Originally Posted by papz I don't disagree that we run nickel more often than not, but our base is considered a 4-3. Any and every site I've checked list that as our base package. We can continue to talk in circles, but the fact of the matter is that you said we don't run a 4-3... and we do. Maybe not as much, but we do. Should Elliss re-sign and play at the level that he did during the second half of the season, we're probably going to see more and more of it as well. I never said we never run a 4-3. It may only be a handful of times per game, but yes, we do run it on occasion. But I also said our base is going to be labeled as a 4-3 not because of three LB's, but because of the four down linemen. The opponent's offensive scheme drives the defensive alignment in Allen's defense for the most part. As long as the emphasis remains on the passing game we can probably expect the third LB on the field to remain the rare exception rather than the norm for the Saints moving forward.
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02-24-2023, 02:51 PM	#23
papz Problem? Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: New Orleans Posts: 11,753	Re: Kaden Elliss says 'numbers and scheme' will determine return to Saints in 2023 Originally Posted by AsylumGuido That would be great if we played a 4-3 defense. We don't. We field a 4-2-5 the vast majority of the time. Don't get me wrong, I would love it if we keep him, but I really think he wants to go somewhere that he can be the fulltime starter. It's not so much about the money, but more so the playing time. Either I'm crazy or you just like to hear yourself talk. iceshack149, vpheughan and K Major like this.

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02-24-2023, 05:09 PM	#26
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,274	Re: Kaden Elliss says 'numbers and scheme' will determine return to Saints in 2023 Originally Posted by papz Either I'm crazy or you just like to hear yourself talk. Just typing, papz. It would be crazy for sure if someone talked as they typed.

02-26-2023, 04:17 PM	#27
Rugby Saint II Bounty Money $$$ Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: 5800 Airline Dr. Metairie, LA. Posts: 24,073	Re: Kaden Elliss says 'numbers and scheme' will determine return to Saints in 2023 Demario Davis isn't getting any younger and I am worried just how long he can play at this level at his age. He's been lucky with injuries and we need every healthy player we can get. I would like to resign Kaden Ellis and use the 4-3 a little more often since we don't have very good safety depth. jnormand and leilung like this.

02-26-2023, 06:02 PM	#28
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,274	Re: Kaden Elliss says 'numbers and scheme' will determine return to Saints in 2023 Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II Demario Davis isn't getting any younger and I am worried just how long he can play at this level at his age. He's been lucky with injuries and we need every healthy player we can get. I would like to resign Kaden Ellis and use the 4-3 a little more often since we don't have very good safety depth. No, Demario isn't getting any younger, but at the level he is playing now he can easily be the best LB on our roster for the next five years. The guy is a physical freak.

02-27-2023, 10:44 AM	#29
K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,622 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Kaden Elliss says 'numbers and scheme' will determine return to Saints in 2023 Originally Posted by papz Either I'm crazy or you just like to hear yourself talk. You definitely aren't crazy Papz .