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AsylumGuido 03-01-2023 10:44 AM
Re: 5 worst head coaches in New Orleans Saints franchise history
 
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Originally Posted by MatthewT (Post 970484)
Ditka didn't have any stability at QB, Heath Shuler was brought in to replace Jim Everett, just a horrible decision, and it never got better from there. I think in all 3 seasons under Ditka they started 4 different QB's each season.
You are correct. Shuler, Hobert, Wuerffel, Nussmeier, Tolliver, Collins, and Delhomme in various combinations.

SmashMouth 03-01-2023 11:33 AM
Re: 5 worst head coaches in New Orleans Saints franchise history
 
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Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 970485)
Yup. Just like the Patriots was Bill Belichick's second time around after compiling a losing record with a dysfunctional franchise in his first attempt at head coach. He went 5-11 his first season with the Patriots. If I remember correctly, the fans were wanting him fired after that season and were labeling him as incompetent. Sound familiar?

;)
So are you saying we are now to expect 6 SB appearances since he's following BB's footsteps? :confused:

AsylumGuido 03-01-2023 11:44 AM
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Originally Posted by SmashMouth (Post 970494)
So are you saying we are now to expect 6 SB appearances since he's following BB's footsteps? :confused:
Not necessarily. No more than we should expect him to fail miserably. Maybe he also lucks into a 6th round hall of fame QB. It has happened before.

K Major 03-01-2023 11:53 AM
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Originally Posted by SmashMouth (Post 970494)
So are you saying we are now to expect 6 SB appearances since he's following BB's footsteps? :confused:
John Siegler and a few here are the ones who are "short-sighted".

Dennis Allen will go down as one of the worst head coaches in Raiders history & he's been a dud in New Orleans thus far.

And the comparisons by some with Bill B & Ditka are silly.

Bill B won 31 games as a NEW HEAD COACH in 4 seasons.
Mike Ditka won 36 games as a NEW HEAD COACH in 4 seasons.
Dennis Allen has won 15 games in 4 seasons (3.5 in Oakland) & 1 season in NOLA. Not to mention walking into NO with a talented roster in 2021/22.

But some of ya'll keep gloating over Allen, making excuses on a man who has ultimately had very little success as Head Coach with two different organizations :rolleyes:

Sinner 03-01-2023 02:45 PM
Re: 5 worst head coaches in New Orleans Saints franchise history
 
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Originally Posted by K Major (Post 970496)
John Siegler and a few here are the ones who are "short-sighted".

Dennis Allen will go down as one of the worst head coaches in Raiders history & he's been a dud in New Orleans thus far.

And the comparisons by some with Bill B & Ditka are silly.

Bill B won 31 games as a NEW HEAD COACH in 4 seasons.
Mike Ditka won 36 games as a NEW HEAD COACH in 4 seasons.
Dennis Allen has won 15 games in 4 seasons (3.5 in Oakland) & 1 season in NOLA. Not to mention walking into NO with a talented roster in 2021/22.

But some of ya'll keep gloating over Allen, making excuses on a man who has ultimately had very little success as Head Coach with two different organizations :rolleyes:

See this ^^^ right here? EXACTLY. THANK YOU.

Rugby Saint II 03-02-2023 11:48 AM
Re: 5 worst head coaches in New Orleans Saints franchise history
 
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Originally Posted by K Major (Post 970496)
John Siegler and a few here are the ones who are "short-sighted".

Dennis Allen will go down as one of the worst head coaches in Raiders history & he's been a dud in New Orleans thus far.

And the comparisons by some with Bill B & Ditka are silly.

Bill B won 31 games as a NEW HEAD COACH in 4 seasons.
Mike Ditka won 36 games as a NEW HEAD COACH in 4 seasons.
Dennis Allen has won 15 games in 4 seasons (3.5 in Oakland) & 1 season in NOLA. Not to mention walking into NO with a talented roster in 2021/22.

But some of ya'll keep gloating over Allen, making excuses on a man who has ultimately had very little success as Head Coach with two different organizations :rolleyes:
Dennis Allen is a good DC when he has top draft picks to make his defensive scheme work but he is not a good head coach. His leadership skills are limited and it shows with how sloppy the team was last year. He's got another year :roll: to keep doing what he's doing. Maybe he pulls a BB and gets it together. We'll see.

AsylumGuido 03-02-2023 01:11 PM
Re: 5 worst head coaches in New Orleans Saints franchise history
 
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Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II (Post 970557)
Dennis Allen is a good DC when he has top draft picks to make his defensive scheme work but he is not a good head coach. His leadership skills are limited and it shows with how sloppy the team was last year. He's got another year :roll: to keep doing what he's doing. Maybe he pulls a BB and gets it together. We'll see.
If Dennis Allen was going "to keep doing what he's doing" then why did he replace virtually the whole coaching staff? Why is he pursuing Derek Carr so vehemently if he's just going "to keep doing what he's doing"? Legitimate questions, I believe, don't you, Rugs?

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