New Orleans Saints signing quarterback Derek Carr to four-year deal

Boston Saint · 03-06-2023, 05:37 PM

Hopefully we catch Lightning in a bottle twice with a California quarterback, coming to the big easy. Sure could have been worse.

SmashMouth · 03-06-2023, 05:40 PM

Carr vs opposing QBs in 2023. Is Carr better than most?

Six games against the NFC South.

Four games against the AFC South (possibly Lawrence is better)

Four games against the NFC North (maybe Cousins. Rodgers I expect to be gone)

Rams - Stafford looks done

Giants - Carr is equal or better than D.
Jones

Patriots - Carr is better than M. Jones

Most likely f those games the Saints will have the better defense and skill players.

Just need a RB and healthy Thomas to win 12+ games

neugey · 03-06-2023, 05:45 PM

Mixed feelings. As far as character and leadership Carr is 100% what we need. It's a big back-loaded contract though and we risk some serious buyer's remorse post 2023. The whole thing feels a bit like the Vikings/Cousins deal - overpaying for a stable second-tier QB.

I'd also love to see a comparison on the deal that he had with the Raiders versus the one we just signed him to, and which one will eventually pay Carr more. Regardless, I bet the old contract was a no-go due to our limited cap space.

I still think we should draft a QB and groom him for the future, with Taysom and Derek certainly two good guys to learn from. Getting a Bridgewater or Dalton etc. seems redundant.

SmashMouth · 03-06-2023, 05:55 PM

Originally Posted by neugey

Mixed feelings. As far as character and leadership Carr is 100% what we need. It's a big back-loaded contract though and we risk some serious buyer's remorse post 2023. The whole thing feels a bit like the Vikings/Cousins deal - overpaying for a stable second-tier QB.

I'd also love to see a comparison on the deal that he had with the Raiders versus the one we just signed him to, and which one will eventually pay Carr more. Regardless, I bet the old contract was a no-go due to our limited cap space.

I still think we should draft a QB and groom him for the future, with Taysom and Derek certainly two good guys to learn from. Getting a Bridgewater or Dalton etc. seems redundant.

If we're to believe all the talk, bad QBs will be getting guaranteed contracts for more. This is supposed to make us feel better about signing Carr.

SmashMouth · 03-06-2023, 06:02 PM

Saints signing Derek Carr would be doing the Falcons a favor - FailClowns chime in.

stickman · 03-07-2023, 06:41 AM

Originally Posted by SmashMouth

Saints signing Derek Carr would be doing the Falcons a favor - FailClowns chime in.

The other members of that board were real quick to call him out on that. The very next post had it right, Carr just needs to come in and do his job.

Rugby Saint II · 03-07-2023, 08:49 AM

Originally Posted by stickman

The other members of that board were real quick to call him out on that. The very next post had it right, Carr just needs to come in and do his job.

Carr may allow Pete Carmichael to open up the play book and we'll see an exciting offense again. Someone tell DA to take the blinders off Pete and let him play to win.

AsylumGuido · 03-07-2023, 08:59 AM

Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II

Carr may allow Pete Carmichael to open up the play book and we'll see an exciting offense again. Someone tell DA to take the blinders off Pete and let him play to win.

That just got me thinking, Rugs. How often did Dalton audible to the "safer" play last season. Carmichael has never been that conservative. I can't see Allen as having any influence on offensive playcalling during a game. That leaves the QB as the only other person able to affect the playcall.

But Carr definitely has the ability to stretch the field, something Dalton lacked horribly.

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SmashMouth I donated, did you? Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Mandeville, LA Posts: 38,805 Blog Entries: 29	Re: New Orleans Saints signing quarterback Derek Carr to four-year deal Carr vs opposing QBs in 2023. Is Carr better than most? Six games against the NFC South. Four games against the AFC South (possibly Lawrence is better) Four games against the NFC North (maybe Cousins. Rodgers I expect to be gone) Rams - Stafford looks done Giants - Carr is equal or better than D. Jones Patriots - Carr is better than M. Jones Most likely f those games the Saints will have the better defense and skill players. Just need a RB and healthy Thomas to win 12+ games AsylumGuido likes this.

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neugey Hu Dat! Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 6,857 Blog Entries: 13	Re: New Orleans Saints signing quarterback Derek Carr to four-year deal Mixed feelings. As far as character and leadership Carr is 100% what we need. It's a big back-loaded contract though and we risk some serious buyer's remorse post 2023. The whole thing feels a bit like the Vikings/Cousins deal - overpaying for a stable second-tier QB. I'd also love to see a comparison on the deal that he had with the Raiders versus the one we just signed him to, and which one will eventually pay Carr more. Regardless, I bet the old contract was a no-go due to our limited cap space. I still think we should draft a QB and groom him for the future, with Taysom and Derek certainly two good guys to learn from. Getting a Bridgewater or Dalton etc. seems redundant.

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SmashMouth I donated, did you? Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Mandeville, LA Posts: 38,805 Blog Entries: 29	Re: New Orleans Saints signing quarterback Derek Carr to four-year deal Originally Posted by neugey Mixed feelings. As far as character and leadership Carr is 100% what we need. It's a big back-loaded contract though and we risk some serious buyer's remorse post 2023. The whole thing feels a bit like the Vikings/Cousins deal - overpaying for a stable second-tier QB. I'd also love to see a comparison on the deal that he had with the Raiders versus the one we just signed him to, and which one will eventually pay Carr more. Regardless, I bet the old contract was a no-go due to our limited cap space. I still think we should draft a QB and groom him for the future, with Taysom and Derek certainly two good guys to learn from. Getting a Bridgewater or Dalton etc. seems redundant. If we're to believe all the talk, bad QBs will be getting guaranteed contracts for more. This is supposed to make us feel better about signing Carr. Rell&Gold likes this.

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