Lol @ Guido

The Dude · 03-11-2023, 05:12 PM

https://saintswire.usatoday.com/2023...jury-contract/

AsylumGuido · 03-11-2023, 05:23 PM

I fail to see the humor. Personally I hoped he would be a success, but others were hoping he would fail. He did fail so I guess that's makes those haters happy. Go figure. I personally fail to see where his failure is anything of which to be proud. But, I guess one has to look for personal satisfaction where they can find it.

The Dude · 03-11-2023, 07:03 PM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

I fail to see the humor. Personally I hoped he would be a success, but others were hoping he would fail. He did fail so I guess that's makes those haters happy. Go figure. I personally fail to see where his failure is anything of which to be proud. But, I guess one has to look for personal satisfaction where they can find it.

You pretty much guaranteed he would be a success and started banging on your keyboard flaming anyone who disagreed. Then you welched on a bet when it didn't work out.

AsylumGuido · 03-11-2023, 07:40 PM

Originally Posted by The Dude

You pretty much guaranteed he would be a success and started banging on your keyboard flaming anyone who disagreed. Then you welched on a bet when it didn't work out.

Bullcrap. I never welched on any bet you liar.

BakoSaint · 03-11-2023, 07:47 PM

Meredith was a roll of the dice that did not land in our favor. He came at a steep discount knowing his injury history. The money involved was small. Saints Wire / ChatGPT failed to do its research here. Jarius Byrd made about 3x what Cameron Meredith made and produce an equally zero value, so clearly Byrd's contract was worse.

The mistake was not signing Meredith per se. The mistake was taking a flyer on a player with a long and treacherous road to recovery and penciling him in as a critical starter vital to the offense in the closing years of Brees' window as an elite starting QB. Its fine to take those gambles if you have reliable options behind them as an insurance policy, but Loomis made the mistake of not just gambling Meredith's small salary, but also Brees' large salary, on the outcome. I would sign a player like Meredith for a discount contract like that today, because he was a great receiver, and he had a 50% chance maybe to come back from injury. Michael Thomas I would offer less than Meredith, because with 3 years of injury the odds to be effective again are much much lower.

saintsfan1976 · 03-12-2023, 08:36 AM

I thought he'd be a solid contributor too. Had all the ability, just no "availability".

I'd argue there are far worse FA signings. Guys who DO play but play miserably are worse then ones who never get to show it.

Browner was incredibly embarrassing.

AsylumGuido · 03-12-2023, 09:19 AM

Originally Posted by saintsfan1976

I thought he'd be a solid contributor too. Had all the ability, just no "availability".

I'd argue there are far worse FA signings. Guys who DO play but play miserably are worse then ones who never get to show it.

Browner was incredibly embarrassing.

I think you definitely came closer with Browner.

But, I'd like to nominate the legendary ...

Jason David!

dizzle88 · 03-12-2023, 10:12 AM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

I think you definitely came closer with Browner.

But, I'd like to nominate the legendary ...

Jason David!

I agree with you, but on the other hand Jason David led the team in Ints in 2008 lol

Jason David, personally, seemed like a really nice guy too, just wasn't good for our defense. Browner, however, what a piece of **** he was.

AsylumGuido · 03-12-2023, 12:31 PM

Originally Posted by dizzle88

I agree with you, but on the other hand Jason David led the team in Ints in 2008 lol

Jason David, personally, seemed like a really nice guy too, just wasn't good for our defense. Browner, however, what a piece of **** he was.

LOL! Yeah. He had eight picks in his two years, but he'd either get a interception or give up a 80 yard TD. Nothing in between.

Boston Saint · 03-12-2023, 01:02 PM

Originally Posted by BakoSaint

Meredith was a roll of the dice that did not land in our favor. He came at a steep discount knowing his injury history. The money involved was small. Saints Wire / ChatGPT failed to do its research here. Jarius Byrd made about 3x what Cameron Meredith made and produce an equally zero value, so clearly Byrd's contract was worse.

The Byrd signing was worse. However the article did stipulate within last 5 years. Byrd and Meredith were before that. So neither would qualify. I’d have to review for the last 5 years. I guess it’s a good thing that none jump out right away.

Edit, Meredith played first for Saints in 2018, so that’s likely why he was chosen.

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AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,274	Re: Lol @ Guido I fail to see the humor. Personally I hoped he would be a success, but others were hoping he would fail. He did fail so I guess that's makes those haters happy. Go figure. I personally fail to see where his failure is anything of which to be proud. But, I guess one has to look for personal satisfaction where they can find it.

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The Dude 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 9,050	Re: Lol @ Guido Originally Posted by AsylumGuido I fail to see the humor. Personally I hoped he would be a success, but others were hoping he would fail. He did fail so I guess that's makes those haters happy. Go figure. I personally fail to see where his failure is anything of which to be proud. But, I guess one has to look for personal satisfaction where they can find it. You pretty much guaranteed he would be a success and started banging on your keyboard flaming anyone who disagreed. Then you welched on a bet when it didn't work out. mapcow likes this.
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AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,274	Re: Lol @ Guido Originally Posted by The Dude You pretty much guaranteed he would be a success and started banging on your keyboard flaming anyone who disagreed. Then you welched on a bet when it didn't work out. Bullcrap. I never welched on any bet you liar.

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BakoSaint 1000 Posts + Join Date: Dec 2018 Posts: 2,173	Re: Lol @ Guido Meredith was a roll of the dice that did not land in our favor. He came at a steep discount knowing his injury history. The money involved was small. Saints Wire / ChatGPT failed to do its research here. Jarius Byrd made about 3x what Cameron Meredith made and produce an equally zero value, so clearly Byrd's contract was worse. The mistake was not signing Meredith per se. The mistake was taking a flyer on a player with a long and treacherous road to recovery and penciling him in as a critical starter vital to the offense in the closing years of Brees' window as an elite starting QB. Its fine to take those gambles if you have reliable options behind them as an insurance policy, but Loomis made the mistake of not just gambling Meredith's small salary, but also Brees' large salary, on the outcome. I would sign a player like Meredith for a discount contract like that today, because he was a great receiver, and he had a 50% chance maybe to come back from injury. Michael Thomas I would offer less than Meredith, because with 3 years of injury the odds to be effective again are much much lower.
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AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,274	Re: Lol @ Guido Originally Posted by saintsfan1976 I thought he'd be a solid contributor too. Had all the ability, just no "availability". I'd argue there are far worse FA signings. Guys who DO play but play miserably are worse then ones who never get to show it. Browner was incredibly embarrassing. I think you definitely came closer with Browner. But, I'd like to nominate the legendary ... Jason David!

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dizzle88 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 11,358	Re: Lol @ Guido Originally Posted by AsylumGuido I think you definitely came closer with Browner. But, I'd like to nominate the legendary ... Jason David! I agree with you, but on the other hand Jason David led the team in Ints in 2008 lol Jason David, personally, seemed like a really nice guy too, just wasn't good for our defense. Browner, however, what a piece of **** he was. AsylumGuido likes this.

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AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,274	Re: Lol @ Guido Originally Posted by dizzle88 I agree with you, but on the other hand Jason David led the team in Ints in 2008 lol Jason David, personally, seemed like a really nice guy too, just wasn't good for our defense. Browner, however, what a piece of **** he was. LOL! Yeah. He had eight picks in his two years, but he'd either get a interception or give up a 80 yard TD. Nothing in between. dizzle88 likes this.

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Boston Saint 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Nov 2020 Location: Massachusetts Posts: 5,137	Re: Lol @ Guido Originally Posted by BakoSaint Meredith was a roll of the dice that did not land in our favor. He came at a steep discount knowing his injury history. The money involved was small. Saints Wire / ChatGPT failed to do its research here. Jarius Byrd made about 3x what Cameron Meredith made and produce an equally zero value, so clearly Byrd's contract was worse. The Byrd signing was worse. However the article did stipulate within last 5 years. Byrd and Meredith were before that. So neither would qualify. I’d have to review for the last 5 years. I guess it’s a good thing that none jump out right away. Edit, Meredith played first for Saints in 2018, so that’s likely why he was chosen.