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AsylumGuido 05-10-2023 01:29 PM
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Originally Posted by neugey (Post 974046)
Good to see that Foster's health seems to have this good of an outlook so far. Now the depth at TE looks better.

HB depth is now the big concern ... IMO we have to plan for the worst and presume Kamara will be on suspension for basically the entire year. Washington and Eno Benjamin don't move any needles for me. Unless we know that Sacramento State kid is going to be a dawg we oughta keep looking for depth behind Williams and Miller.
I'm not aware of a Sacramento State RB. Am I missing something. We also have SaRodorick Thompson out of Texas Tech that we signed as a UDFA

SmashMouth 05-10-2023 01:29 PM
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Originally Posted by dizzle88 (Post 974021)
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Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II (Post 974033)
Moreau is officially a Saint! Get well soon and come back strong. This is my kind of story!
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Originally Posted by Boston Saint (Post 974042)
Hope it works out mainly for his health and secondly for his game. Doesn’t change my feelings about the draft.
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Originally Posted by CheramieIII (Post 974044)
He will play for us and be a good TE!
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Originally Posted by neugey (Post 974046)
Good to see that Foster's health seems to have this good of an outlook so far. Now the depth at TE looks better.

HB depth is now the big concern ... IMO we have to plan for the worst and presume Kamara will be on suspension for basically the entire year. Washington and Eno Benjamin don't move any needles for me. Unless we know that Sacramento State kid is going to be a dawg we oughta keep looking for depth behind Williams and Miller.
Awesome news, especially in light of his diagnosis.

Since he already has a rapport with QB Carr, this bodes well for having more production at the TE position than we've had in recent years, with all due respect to Juwan Johnson. If Krull can step up and maybe Joel Wilson can come in and show us some flashes a la Kittle as per the Whiners presumable saw in him, this position may have become one of strength. :bng:

Boston Saint 05-10-2023 01:34 PM
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Originally Posted by neugey (Post 974046)
Good to see that Foster's health seems to have this good of an outlook so far. Now the depth at TE looks better.

HB depth is now the big concern ... IMO we have to plan for the worst and presume Kamara will be on suspension for basically the entire year. Washington and Eno Benjamin don't move any needles for me. Unless we know that Texas Tech kid is going to be a dawg we oughta keep looking for depth behind Williams and Miller.
This and i’m worried about LB. Werner missed time last year and losing Ellis could hurt. It seems they play 2 LB sets a lot to compensate, but we haven’t shown much quality depth there at all.

AsylumGuido 05-10-2023 01:39 PM
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Originally Posted by SmashMouth (Post 974049)
Awesome news, especially in light of his diagnosis.

Since he already has a rapport with QB Carr, this bodes well for having more production at the TE position than we've had in recent years, with all due respect to Juwan Johnson. If Krull can step up and maybe Joel Wilson can come in and show us some flashes a la Kittle as per the Whiners presumable saw in him, this position may have become one of strength. :bng:
Maybe Wilson can earn a spot on the practice squad. Since we use the FB so much I can't see any way we carry more than four TE's, and we usually only carry three. Juwan, Taysom, and now Moreau should be locks. In addition to Wilson we also have Krull and that kid out of Alabama, Miller Forristall, on the 90 man roster.

neugey 05-10-2023 01:50 PM
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Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 974048)
I'm not aware of a Sacramento State RB. Am I missing something. We also have SaRodorick Thompson out of Texas Tech that we signed as a UDFA

Yeah, I meant Texas Tech and corrected. Got my wires crossed

AsylumGuido 05-10-2023 02:00 PM
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Originally Posted by neugey (Post 974052)
Yeah, I meant Texas Tech and corrected. Got my wires crossed
LOL. I thought I was losing it.

AsylumGuido 05-10-2023 02:22 PM
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Love that he's wearing a Team Gleason t-shirt.

WW_Who_Dat 05-10-2023 02:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Boston Saint (Post 974042)
Hope it works out mainly for his health and secondly for his game. Doesn’t change my feelings about the draft.
Boston the lens we view the draft thru and shaped individual assessments of team needs is diverse, varied, researched, insightful and all have merit. The organization does exactly the same thing with the benefit of direct access to the players, their coaches, game firm with the teams short and long term plan to address those needs. The Saints are not a “get all the bodies you can” from a strategic point of view. Many feel that is a foundational approach and objective to the draft … Not The Saints. Is what it is.

But as history tells us the Saints will do whatever it takes to get the player(s) they like with whatever capital is available to them or can be traded for.

The first 3 picks this draft were all needs and I think considering where we were at in the draft order Ireland and team did a great job with these 3 picks. A day 1 starter and 2 rotational pieces at the minimum and Foskey or Miller might be a real surprise by the start of the season.

OG was a must not just for depth but next year we have 1 maybe 2 OG position that might be needed next season. Again between Saldiveri and Hurst one of those stand a good chance of being a starter at OG especially if Penning secures the starting LT position.

The QB pick value pick for a prospect to hopefully replace Winston salary more than Winston himself. But there is no way we have Winston as a long term backup QB. If Haener shows well this offseason Winston could end up being trade material for a team in need of a QB to step up and in due to injury. At a minimum step in the Backup QB position next year.

For these reasons and the ability to take the long view on Haeners development while we have Carr. Nothing ventured nothing gained.

As fas the rest of the draft, interesting but only time will give us any real insight.

Foster Moreau’s signing is a good indication that inside the organization that the outlook on his treatment plan and returning to football was already known inside 5800 Airline Dr going into this years draft. Making the selection of a TE in this draft not so critical while those in the media and we fans could not wrap our head around not drafting a TE. Additional a huge plus over drafting a TE is that Moreau is an experienced TE that has played with our QB and been productive.

I have to trust that the Saints identified the players they liked and thought they could get. They had a plan going in, with a combination of the draft falling their way and trading up to get players they liked, Free Agent signings to compete for not just roster spots but starting roles in all the areas of need.

I would like to think every player we signed will have a positive impact on the Saints Team and roster. But that’s just not the nature of the beast. We will all be back next off-season discussing this years hits, the misses and assigning fault with analytical certainty and stellar GM and coaching insight on January 8, 2024.

Then start the whole process over again for the next batch players needed and why. God willing we are all here to participate.

Gotta love being a Saints Fan. :chug:

AsylumGuido 05-10-2023 02:46 PM
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Originally Posted by WW_Who_Dat (Post 974055)
Boston the lens we view the draft thru and shaped individual assessments of team needs is diverse, varied, researched, insightful and all have merit. The organization does exactly the same thing with the benefit of direct access to the players, their coaches, game firm with the teams short and long term plan to address those needs. The Saints are not a “get all the bodies you can” from a strategic point of view. Many feel that is a foundational approach and objective to the draft … Not The Saints. Is what it is.

But as history tells us the Saints will do whatever it takes to get the player(s) they like with whatever capital is available to them or can be traded for.

The first 3 picks this draft were all needs and I think considering where we were at in the draft order Ireland and team did a great job with these 3 picks. A day 1 starter and 2 rotational pieces at the minimum and Foskey or Miller might be a real surprise by the start of the season.

OG was a must not just for depth but next year we have 1 maybe 2 OG position that might be needed next season. Again between Saldiveri and Hurst one of those stand a good chance of being a starter at OG especially if Penning secures the starting LT position.

The QB pick value pick for a prospect to hopefully replace Winston salary more than Winston himself. But there is no way we have Winston as a long term backup QB. If Haener shows well this offseason Winston could end up being trade material for a team in need of a QB to step up and in due to injury. At a minimum step in the Backup QB position next year.

For these reasons and the ability to take the long view on Haeners development while we have Carr. Nothing ventured nothing gained.

As fas the rest of the draft, interesting but only time will give us any real insight.

Foster Moreau’s signing is a good indication that inside the organization that the outlook on his treatment plan and returning to football was already known inside 5800 Airline Dr going into this years draft. Making the selection of a TE in this draft not so critical while those in the media and we fans could not wrap our head around not drafting a TE. Additional a huge plus over drafting a TE is that Moreau is an experienced TE that has played with our QB and been productive.

I have to trust that the Saints identified the players they liked and thought they could get. They had a plan going in, with a combination of the draft falling their way and trading up to get players they liked, Free Agent signings to compete for not just roster spots but starting roles in all the areas of need.

I would like to think every player we signed will have a positive impact on the Saints Team and roster. But that’s just not the nature of the beast. We will all be back next off-season discussing this years hits, the misses and assigning fault with analytical certainty and stellar GM and coaching insight on January 8, 2024.

Then start the whole process over again for the next batch players needed and why. God willing we are all here to participate.

Gotta love being a Saints Fan. :chug:
Right on point from top to bottom, WW. :beer:

Boston Saint 05-10-2023 03:06 PM
Re: Foster Moreau Discovers Serious Condition in Saints Physical
 
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Originally Posted by WW_Who_Dat (Post 974055)
Boston the lens we view the draft thru and shaped individual assessments of team needs is diverse, varied, researched, insightful and all have merit. The organization does exactly the same thing with the benefit of direct access to the players, their coaches, game firm with the teams short and long term plan to address those needs. The Saints are not a “get all the bodies you can” from a strategic point of view. Many feel that is a foundational approach and objective to the draft … Not The Saints. Is what it is.

But as history tells us the Saints will do whatever it takes to get the player(s) they like with whatever capital is available to them or can be traded for.

The first 3 picks this draft were all needs and I think considering where we were at in the draft order Ireland and team did a great job with these 3 picks. A day 1 starter and 2 rotational pieces at the minimum and Foskey or Miller might be a real surprise by the start of the season.

OG was a must not just for depth but next year we have 1 maybe 2 OG position that might be needed next season. Again between Saldiveri and Hurst one of those stand a good chance of being a starter at OG especially if Penning secures the starting LT position.

The QB pick value pick for a prospect to hopefully replace Winston salary more than Winston himself. But there is no way we have Winston as a long term backup QB. If Haener shows well this offseason Winston could end up being trade material for a team in need of a QB to step up and in due to injury. At a minimum step in the Backup QB position next year.

For these reasons and the ability to take the long view on Haeners development while we have Carr. Nothing ventured nothing gained.

As fas the rest of the draft, interesting but only time will give us any real insight.

Foster Moreau’s signing is a good indication that inside the organization that the outlook on his treatment plan and returning to football was already known inside 5800 Airline Dr going into this years draft. Making the selection of a TE in this draft not so critical while those in the media and we fans could not wrap our head around not drafting a TE. Additional a huge plus over drafting a TE is that Moreau is an experienced TE that has played with our QB and been productive.

I have to trust that the Saints identified the players they liked and thought they could get. They had a plan going in, with a combination of the draft falling their way and trading up to get players they liked, Free Agent signings to compete for not just roster spots but starting roles in all the areas of need.

I would like to think every player we signed will have a positive impact on the Saints Team and roster. But that’s just not the nature of the beast. We will all be back next off-season discussing this years hits, the misses and assigning fault with analytical certainty and stellar GM and coaching insight on January 8, 2024.

Then start the whole process over again for the next batch players needed and why. God willing we are all here to participate.

Gotta love being a Saints Fan. :chug:
Fair enough and, with respect, I understand the reasonings for the picks they made. I read the articles. And I admit It’s not as bad as say, the trade up for Davenport. And sure Signing Moreau might help address the TE position. But rather then signing a free agent TE for 8 million guaranteed and drafting a defensive end you could have drafted a tight end and signed an $8 million defensive lineman from free agency just as well.

I feel there have been certain positions that, to their Detriment, have been neglected in the Saints historical draft process. Specifically TE and LB. Going all the way back to watching Shanley get beat, apart from guys we got from other teams (Vilma and Davis) we have struggled to find production there and we spend very little draft capital compared to other positions. Likewise with TE. From Shockey to the Colts guy (I’m blanking on his name) we treat it as an afterthought despite the success we had with the one TE pick that was successful in Graham.

I’m glad we signed him and am pulling for him to work out. Doesn’t mean I don’t think we missed on draft potential for the position.

WW_Who_Dat 05-10-2023 03:41 PM
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Originally Posted by Boston Saint (Post 974060)
Fair enough and, with respect, I understand the reasonings for the picks they made. I read the articles. And I admit It’s not as bad as say, the trade up for Davenport. And sure Signing Moreau might help address the TE position. But rather then signing a free agent TE for 8 million guaranteed and drafting a defensive end you could have drafted a tight end and signed an $8 million defensive lineman from free agency just as well.

I feel there have been certain positions that, to their Detriment, have been neglected in the Saints historical draft process. Specifically TE and LB. Going all the way back to watching Shanley get beat, apart from guys we got from other teams (Vilma and Davis) we have struggled to find production there and we spend very little draft capital compared to other positions. Likewise with TE. From Shockey to the Colts guy (I’m blanking on his name) we treat it as an afterthought despite the success we had with the one TE pick that was successful in Graham.

I’m glad we signed him and am pulling for him to work out. Doesn’t mean I don’t think we missed on draft potential for the position.
Boston no aurgument with you points concern. I feel that Payton had a huge say during his tenure and showed he clearly over estimated his ability to coach up late round draft picks after his initial success. Great coach but this a talent driven game.

My sense that the last 2 draft have so far shown the Saints will pursue demonstrated quantifed talent and continue their efforts to get value in their late round draft picks and UDFA. A necessary piece of the equation to paying for the core veterans needed in all areas of the team and managing the Cap.

I agree on LB’rs situation as it stands, maybe they sign a veteran free agent combined with they lhave and from last years practice squad and Red Shirted on Injured Reserve.

I think Moreau cap hit is 3 million this year so there’s plenty remaining cap available to sign a veteran linebacker. That would go a long way in shoring up the linebacking unit.

:chug:

AsylumGuido 05-10-2023 04:02 PM
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Originally Posted by WW_Who_Dat (Post 974062)
Boston no aurgument with you points concern. I feel that Payton had a huge say during his tenure and showed he clearly over estimated his ability to coach up late round draft picks after his initial success. Great coach but this a talent driven game.

My sense that the last 2 draft have so far shown the Saints will pursue demonstrated quantifed talent and continue their efforts to get value in their late round draft picks and UDFA. A necessary piece of the equation to paying for the core veterans needed in all areas of the team and managing the Cap.

I agree on LB’rs situation as it stands, maybe they sign a veteran free agent combined with they lhave and from last years practice squad and Red Shirted on Injured Reserve.

I think Moreau cap hit is 3 million this year so there’s plenty remaining cap available to sign a veteran linebacker. That would go a long way in shoring up the linebacking unit.

:chug:
Let's not forget that we drafted a LB last year that didn't get to play a snap, D'Marco Jackson. So he is basically still a drafted rookie. We also added two more rookie LB's in Anfernee Orji and Nick Anderson from Tulane. We also picked up Ryan Connelly who was with Minnesota last season. The rookie draft is but one method for building a team. Depth can be added in any number of different ways. We currently have ten LB's on the roster and will eventually get down to six or seven counting practice squad. I agree that we'll likely be looking at another LB in free agency to compete for one of the depth slots behind the two starters and special teams.

SmashMouth 05-10-2023 04:18 PM
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AsylumGuido 05-10-2023 05:18 PM
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AsylumGuido 05-11-2023 08:21 AM
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subguy 05-13-2023 08:35 AM
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Originally Posted by K Major (Post 974029)
Same s***, different day. Condescending behavior.

Saintfan warned us, repeatedly. Running good people off of this platform.

Truly sad really.
Not that I would be a big loss, but I reached my end a few months ago and swore off B&G and actually PM'ed a couple of folks to say good-bye.

It was a moment of weakness...but F it. I refuse to deliver satisfaction to him. My opinion doesn't always align with folks, but none of us always agree. The best thing to say is "Lets Agree to Disagree" and move on.

That said, when so many threads are filled with Twitter, condescending attitude, and passive-aggressive dialogue, it becomes disparaging. Reminds me too much of "real life" which tells us which bathroom to use, what pronoun, race baiting and so on.

This site is one of my escapes(or should be) from all of the stupid spit fabricated to divide people as it is.

Okay...stepping off the soapbox and returning you to the regularly scheduled program. :poke:

SmashMouth 05-13-2023 10:26 AM
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Originally Posted by subguy (Post 974135)
Not that I would be a big loss, but I reached my end a few months ago and swore off B&G and actually PM'ed a couple of folks to say good-bye.

It was a moment of weakness...but F it. I refuse to deliver satisfaction to him. My opinion doesn't always align with folks, but none of us always agree. The best thing to say is "Lets Agree to Disagree" and move on.

That said, when so many threads are filled with Twitter, condescending attitude, and passive-aggressive dialogue, it becomes disparaging. Reminds me too much of "real life" which tells us which bathroom to use, what pronoun, race baiting and so on.

This site is one of my escapes(or should be) from all of the stupid spit fabricated to divide people as it is.

Okay...stepping off the soapbox and returning you to the regularly scheduled program. :poke:
We are fixing to redesign this site. We have to, really, to keep up with the interwebs and how it changes. There will be some cleanups and modifications. It's all for the better. We appreciate and value everyone's contributions. It's good to have diverse views and disparate opinions. It fosters discussion and discourse... and frankly makes it much more interesting. :bng:

SmashMouth 05-13-2023 10:50 AM
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AsylumGuido 05-16-2023 08:18 AM
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AsylumGuido 05-16-2023 08:26 AM
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AsylumGuido 05-16-2023 08:41 AM
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Moreau explains in this article how he's able to be back on the field and ready to go. This also explains why the Saints didn't feel the need to reach for a TE in the rookie draft knowing Moreau is already a proven commodity and would be available almost immediately.


From link above:

Moreau revealed that he had a rare cell type of Hodgkin's Lymphoma called NLPHL, or Nodular Lymphocyte-predominant Hodgkin's Lymphoma, referred to as 'Alphabet Soup'. Moreau said that it shows up in 3-5 percent in all Hodgkin's Lymphoma, and is slow-growing and non-aggressive, but is still cancer. What that meant for Moreau is that he didn't have to undergo chemotherapy or radiation, but took medicine that targeted the specific type of cancer he has.

Crusader 05-16-2023 10:41 AM
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Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 974254)
Moreau revealed that he had a rare cell type of Hodgkin's Lymphoma called NLPHL, or Nodular Lymphocyte-predominant Hodgkin's Lymphoma, referred to as 'Alphabet Soup'. Moreau said that it shows up in 3-5 percent in all Hodgkin's Lymphoma, and is slow-growing and non-aggressive, but is still cancer. What that meant for Moreau is that he didn't have to undergo chemotherapy or radiation, but took medicine that targeted the specific type of cancer he has.
Well that explains how he can be back on the field in such a short time. Chemo and radiation kicks the living daylights out of most everybody so that would have been a whole different story.

SmashMouth 05-16-2023 02:50 PM
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AsylumGuido 05-17-2023 09:05 AM
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Rugby Saint II 05-17-2023 09:33 AM
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Foster Moreau is my new hero! Modern technology is saving lives. May the force be with him.

SmashMouth 05-18-2023 10:03 AM
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Foster Moreau talks cancer treatment, relationship with Saints and Derek Carr

SmashMouth 05-19-2023 12:13 PM
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Crusader 05-21-2023 02:01 PM
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Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II (Post 974307)
Foster Moreau is my new hero! Modern technology is saving lives. May the force be with him.
Yeah it would be dang hard to root against a guy like that. Love the fact that he really seems to be in NOLA and play for the Saints.

AsylumGuido 06-10-2023 12:25 PM
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SmashMouth 07-03-2023 11:33 PM
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Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 975093)
And looks like he will... He's just announced full remission.
https://www.si.com/nfl/bengals/news/...ncer-diagnosis

Rugby Saint II 07-06-2023 02:25 PM
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It's easier to fight the good fight with the right attitude. I'm looking at you Smash! :banana:

SmashMouth 07-06-2023 03:55 PM
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Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II (Post 975737)
It's easier to fight the good fight with the right attitude. I'm looking at you Smash! :banana:
Still testing negatory on the ctDNA.

WW_Who_Dat 07-06-2023 05:34 PM
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Originally Posted by SmashMouth (Post 975746)
Still testing negatory on the ctDNA.
👏👏👏

SmashMouth 08-01-2023 11:14 AM
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