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this is a discussion within the Saints Community Forum; Originally Posted by neugey Good to see that Foster's health seems to have this good of an outlook so far. Now the depth at TE looks better. HB depth is now the big concern ... IMO we have to plan ...

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Old 05-10-2023, 02:29 PM   #41
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Good to see that Foster's health seems to have this good of an outlook so far. Now the depth at TE looks better.

HB depth is now the big concern ... IMO we have to plan for the worst and presume Kamara will be on suspension for basically the entire year. Washington and Eno Benjamin don't move any needles for me. Unless we know that Sacramento State kid is going to be a dawg we oughta keep looking for depth behind Williams and Miller.
I'm not aware of a Sacramento State RB. Am I missing something. We also have SaRodorick Thompson out of Texas Tech that we signed as a UDFA
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Moreau is officially a Saint! Get well soon and come back strong. This is my kind of story!
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Hope it works out mainly for his health and secondly for his game. Doesn’t change my feelings about the draft.
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He will play for us and be a good TE!
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Good to see that Foster's health seems to have this good of an outlook so far. Now the depth at TE looks better.

HB depth is now the big concern ... IMO we have to plan for the worst and presume Kamara will be on suspension for basically the entire year. Washington and Eno Benjamin don't move any needles for me. Unless we know that Sacramento State kid is going to be a dawg we oughta keep looking for depth behind Williams and Miller.
Awesome news, especially in light of his diagnosis.

Since he already has a rapport with QB Carr, this bodes well for having more production at the TE position than we've had in recent years, with all due respect to Juwan Johnson. If Krull can step up and maybe Joel Wilson can come in and show us some flashes a la Kittle as per the Whiners presumable saw in him, this position may have become one of strength.
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Originally Posted by neugey View Post
Good to see that Foster's health seems to have this good of an outlook so far. Now the depth at TE looks better.

HB depth is now the big concern ... IMO we have to plan for the worst and presume Kamara will be on suspension for basically the entire year. Washington and Eno Benjamin don't move any needles for me. Unless we know that Texas Tech kid is going to be a dawg we oughta keep looking for depth behind Williams and Miller.
This and i’m worried about LB. Werner missed time last year and losing Ellis could hurt. It seems they play 2 LB sets a lot to compensate, but we haven’t shown much quality depth there at all.
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Awesome news, especially in light of his diagnosis.

Since he already has a rapport with QB Carr, this bodes well for having more production at the TE position than we've had in recent years, with all due respect to Juwan Johnson. If Krull can step up and maybe Joel Wilson can come in and show us some flashes a la Kittle as per the Whiners presumable saw in him, this position may have become one of strength.
Maybe Wilson can earn a spot on the practice squad. Since we use the FB so much I can't see any way we carry more than four TE's, and we usually only carry three. Juwan, Taysom, and now Moreau should be locks. In addition to Wilson we also have Krull and that kid out of Alabama, Miller Forristall, on the 90 man roster.
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I'm not aware of a Sacramento State RB. Am I missing something. We also have SaRodorick Thompson out of Texas Tech that we signed as a UDFA

Yeah, I meant Texas Tech and corrected. Got my wires crossed
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Yeah, I meant Texas Tech and corrected. Got my wires crossed
LOL. I thought I was losing it.
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Love that he's wearing a Team Gleason t-shirt.

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Hope it works out mainly for his health and secondly for his game. Doesn’t change my feelings about the draft.
Boston the lens we view the draft thru and shaped individual assessments of team needs is diverse, varied, researched, insightful and all have merit. The organization does exactly the same thing with the benefit of direct access to the players, their coaches, game firm with the teams short and long term plan to address those needs. The Saints are not a “get all the bodies you can” from a strategic point of view. Many feel that is a foundational approach and objective to the draft … Not The Saints. Is what it is.

But as history tells us the Saints will do whatever it takes to get the player(s) they like with whatever capital is available to them or can be traded for.

The first 3 picks this draft were all needs and I think considering where we were at in the draft order Ireland and team did a great job with these 3 picks. A day 1 starter and 2 rotational pieces at the minimum and Foskey or Miller might be a real surprise by the start of the season.

OG was a must not just for depth but next year we have 1 maybe 2 OG position that might be needed next season. Again between Saldiveri and Hurst one of those stand a good chance of being a starter at OG especially if Penning secures the starting LT position.

The QB pick value pick for a prospect to hopefully replace Winston salary more than Winston himself. But there is no way we have Winston as a long term backup QB. If Haener shows well this offseason Winston could end up being trade material for a team in need of a QB to step up and in due to injury. At a minimum step in the Backup QB position next year.

For these reasons and the ability to take the long view on Haeners development while we have Carr. Nothing ventured nothing gained.

As fas the rest of the draft, interesting but only time will give us any real insight.

Foster Moreau’s signing is a good indication that inside the organization that the outlook on his treatment plan and returning to football was already known inside 5800 Airline Dr going into this years draft. Making the selection of a TE in this draft not so critical while those in the media and we fans could not wrap our head around not drafting a TE. Additional a huge plus over drafting a TE is that Moreau is an experienced TE that has played with our QB and been productive.

I have to trust that the Saints identified the players they liked and thought they could get. They had a plan going in, with a combination of the draft falling their way and trading up to get players they liked, Free Agent signings to compete for not just roster spots but starting roles in all the areas of need.

I would like to think every player we signed will have a positive impact on the Saints Team and roster. But that’s just not the nature of the beast. We will all be back next off-season discussing this years hits, the misses and assigning fault with analytical certainty and stellar GM and coaching insight on January 8, 2024.

Then start the whole process over again for the next batch players needed and why. God willing we are all here to participate.

Gotta love being a Saints Fan.
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Boston the lens we view the draft thru and shaped individual assessments of team needs is diverse, varied, researched, insightful and all have merit. The organization does exactly the same thing with the benefit of direct access to the players, their coaches, game firm with the teams short and long term plan to address those needs. The Saints are not a “get all the bodies you can” from a strategic point of view. Many feel that is a foundational approach and objective to the draft … Not The Saints. Is what it is.

But as history tells us the Saints will do whatever it takes to get the player(s) they like with whatever capital is available to them or can be traded for.

The first 3 picks this draft were all needs and I think considering where we were at in the draft order Ireland and team did a great job with these 3 picks. A day 1 starter and 2 rotational pieces at the minimum and Foskey or Miller might be a real surprise by the start of the season.

OG was a must not just for depth but next year we have 1 maybe 2 OG position that might be needed next season. Again between Saldiveri and Hurst one of those stand a good chance of being a starter at OG especially if Penning secures the starting LT position.

The QB pick value pick for a prospect to hopefully replace Winston salary more than Winston himself. But there is no way we have Winston as a long term backup QB. If Haener shows well this offseason Winston could end up being trade material for a team in need of a QB to step up and in due to injury. At a minimum step in the Backup QB position next year.

For these reasons and the ability to take the long view on Haeners development while we have Carr. Nothing ventured nothing gained.

As fas the rest of the draft, interesting but only time will give us any real insight.

Foster Moreau’s signing is a good indication that inside the organization that the outlook on his treatment plan and returning to football was already known inside 5800 Airline Dr going into this years draft. Making the selection of a TE in this draft not so critical while those in the media and we fans could not wrap our head around not drafting a TE. Additional a huge plus over drafting a TE is that Moreau is an experienced TE that has played with our QB and been productive.

I have to trust that the Saints identified the players they liked and thought they could get. They had a plan going in, with a combination of the draft falling their way and trading up to get players they liked, Free Agent signings to compete for not just roster spots but starting roles in all the areas of need.

I would like to think every player we signed will have a positive impact on the Saints Team and roster. But that’s just not the nature of the beast. We will all be back next off-season discussing this years hits, the misses and assigning fault with analytical certainty and stellar GM and coaching insight on January 8, 2024.

Then start the whole process over again for the next batch players needed and why. God willing we are all here to participate.

Gotta love being a Saints Fan.
Right on point from top to bottom, WW.
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Boston the lens we view the draft thru and shaped individual assessments of team needs is diverse, varied, researched, insightful and all have merit. The organization does exactly the same thing with the benefit of direct access to the players, their coaches, game firm with the teams short and long term plan to address those needs. The Saints are not a “get all the bodies you can” from a strategic point of view. Many feel that is a foundational approach and objective to the draft … Not The Saints. Is what it is.

But as history tells us the Saints will do whatever it takes to get the player(s) they like with whatever capital is available to them or can be traded for.

The first 3 picks this draft were all needs and I think considering where we were at in the draft order Ireland and team did a great job with these 3 picks. A day 1 starter and 2 rotational pieces at the minimum and Foskey or Miller might be a real surprise by the start of the season.

OG was a must not just for depth but next year we have 1 maybe 2 OG position that might be needed next season. Again between Saldiveri and Hurst one of those stand a good chance of being a starter at OG especially if Penning secures the starting LT position.

The QB pick value pick for a prospect to hopefully replace Winston salary more than Winston himself. But there is no way we have Winston as a long term backup QB. If Haener shows well this offseason Winston could end up being trade material for a team in need of a QB to step up and in due to injury. At a minimum step in the Backup QB position next year.

For these reasons and the ability to take the long view on Haeners development while we have Carr. Nothing ventured nothing gained.

As fas the rest of the draft, interesting but only time will give us any real insight.

Foster Moreau’s signing is a good indication that inside the organization that the outlook on his treatment plan and returning to football was already known inside 5800 Airline Dr going into this years draft. Making the selection of a TE in this draft not so critical while those in the media and we fans could not wrap our head around not drafting a TE. Additional a huge plus over drafting a TE is that Moreau is an experienced TE that has played with our QB and been productive.

I have to trust that the Saints identified the players they liked and thought they could get. They had a plan going in, with a combination of the draft falling their way and trading up to get players they liked, Free Agent signings to compete for not just roster spots but starting roles in all the areas of need.

I would like to think every player we signed will have a positive impact on the Saints Team and roster. But that’s just not the nature of the beast. We will all be back next off-season discussing this years hits, the misses and assigning fault with analytical certainty and stellar GM and coaching insight on January 8, 2024.

Then start the whole process over again for the next batch players needed and why. God willing we are all here to participate.

Gotta love being a Saints Fan.
Fair enough and, with respect, I understand the reasonings for the picks they made. I read the articles. And I admit It’s not as bad as say, the trade up for Davenport. And sure Signing Moreau might help address the TE position. But rather then signing a free agent TE for 8 million guaranteed and drafting a defensive end you could have drafted a tight end and signed an $8 million defensive lineman from free agency just as well.

I feel there have been certain positions that, to their Detriment, have been neglected in the Saints historical draft process. Specifically TE and LB. Going all the way back to watching Shanley get beat, apart from guys we got from other teams (Vilma and Davis) we have struggled to find production there and we spend very little draft capital compared to other positions. Likewise with TE. From Shockey to the Colts guy (I’m blanking on his name) we treat it as an afterthought despite the success we had with the one TE pick that was successful in Graham.

I’m glad we signed him and am pulling for him to work out. Doesn’t mean I don’t think we missed on draft potential for the position.

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