Saints Division Foes News - 2023
 

Thought I would start a thread on news from our divisional opponents that could affect our Saints moving forward.

Interesting news here on the Panthers. Moving to the 3-4 from what appeared to be a fairly formidable 4-3. I'm hoping there's quite a bit of growing pains involved in the move.

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We draft players who fit the 4-3 defense Allen likes to run. Yes, we've run a 3-4 but it's not our standard package. For one thing, we don't have a dominant DT/NT type to get the pressure up the middle in a 3-4 and we certainly don't have enough LB'ers to run it efficiently. Maybe they need Baun.

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They will be good.

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Not good enough 🤗

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Vegas doesn't think so.

Cincinnati Bengals Over 11.5 (-110) Under 11.5 (-110)
Kansas City Chiefs Over 11.5 (-110) Under 11.5 (-110)
San Francisco 49ers Over 11.5 (+105) Under 11.5 (-125)
Buffalo Bills Over 10.5 (-125) Under 10.5 (+105)
Philadelphia Eagles Over 10.5 (-130) Under 10.5 (+110)
Dallas Cowboys Over 9.5 (-120) Under 9.5 (+100)
Jacksonville Jaguars Over 9.5 (-140) Under 9.5 (+120)
Los Angeles Chargers Over 9.5 (-115) Under 9.5 (-105)
Miami Dolphins Over 9.5 (+110) Under 9.5 (-130)
New Orleans Saints Over 9.5 (+110) Under 9.5 (-130)
New York Jets Over 9.5 (-135) Under 9.5 (+115)
Detroit Lions Over 9 (-150) Under 9 (+125)
Baltimore Ravens Over 8.5 (-140) Under 8.5 (+120)
Cleveland Browns Over 8.5 (-140) Under 8.5 (+120)
Denver Broncos Over 8.5 (-115) Under 8.5 (-105)
Minnesota Vikings Over 8.5 (-115) Under 8.5 (-105)
New York Giants Over 8.5 (+110) Under 8.5 (-130)
Pittsburgh Steelers Over 8.5 (-115) Under 8.5 (-105)
Seattle Seahawks Over 8.5 (-125) Under 8.5 (+105)
Green Bay Packers Over 7.5 (+115) Under 7.5 (-135)
Atlanta Falcons Over 7.5 (-115) Under 7.5 (-105)
Carolina Panthers Over 7.5 (-110) Under 7.5 (-110)
Chicago Bears Over 7.5 (-115) Under 7.5 (-105)
Los Angeles Rams Over 7.5 (-125) Under 7.5 (+105)
Las Vegas Raiders Over 7.5 (+120) Under 7.5 (-140)
New England Patriots Over 7.5 (-115) Under 7.5 (-105)
Tennessee Titans Over 7.5 (-105) Under 7.5 (+105)
Washington Commanders Over 7.5 (+115) Under 7.5 (-135)
Indianapolis Colts Over 6.5 (-150) Under 6.5 (+125)
Tampa Bay Buccaneers Over 6.5 (-115) Under 6.5 (-105)
Arizona Cardinals Over 5.5 (+105) Under 5.5 (-125)
Houston Texans Over 5.5 (-110) Under 5.5 (-110)

Opening Odds per Caesars Sportsbook

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So Vegas knows something?

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A whole hell of a lot more than anyone here does. That's for certain. ;)

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The truth will be revealed.

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Probably … Las Vegas was not built on the house losing.

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Falcons and Panthers improved before the draft.

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I'm hoping CJ Stroud doesn't end up as the Kittens #1 draft pick.

The defense is already solid + Frank Reich is a solid play caller.

I'm not sleeping on either NFC South foe.

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Well it's obviously going to be a QB, and I think it's pretty obvious they will take Stroud. Who do you think it would be?

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I'm hoping it's B Young instead.

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Everything I'm hearing is that it will be Young, not Stroud.

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Media reports are Young to Carolina. Will be interesting to see if Atlanta takes a QB at 8.

The closer we get to draft day the more I think an impact d lineman will fall to us at 29.

Would be great to see a Miles Murphy or Breese at 29 then grab Mayer at 41.

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Yes, they have. But, so have the Saints. I think adding Carr and Jamaal Williams alone can have as much, if not more, impact in total than the sum of what either of those teams have added to date. Add in Khalen Saunders and Nathan Shepherd to the possible DT rotation. Not to mention just getting Michael Thomas back is a huge addition to last season's squad.

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Food for thought; This article contains draftkings NFL win projections for 2022. It was published Aug 24th 2022 right before the season started.

https://www.actionnetwork.com/nfl/fu...in-totals-odds

Among their biggest misses were…

Eagles won 14 games with a 9.5 projection
Vikings won 13 with a 9 projection
Tampon 8 with 11 projected
Rams 5 wins with 10.5 projected

The AFC was more as predicted.

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76 nailed it.

For those keeping track at home, Miles Murphy went one pick ahead of Breese @ pick #28.

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Looks like the Falcons may have just lost one of their starting CB's.

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Okay.

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One emotional support peacock, coming up!

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Now, that's some funny stuff right there! :p

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Last year Vegas had us winning 8.5, the Panthers winning 6.5, and the Falcons winning only 5. They did not know at the time that the Panthers would trade away Christian McCaffery and the Falcons would trade away Deion Jones and bench Mariota to give a 3rd round pick QB a test drive. I called us winning 7. We won 7 and so did the Panthers and Falcons. Vegas just knows what other people are betting. It knows how much Kool Aid we are drinking, not how many games we will win. It's hot. We like Kool Aid.

https://www.actionnetwork.com/nfl/fu...in-totals-odds

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This just shows that just because a highly talented young player from Ohio State has suffered a few season ending injuries the past few years doesn't mean that anything similar is at all likely to happen to the same player again this year. Lightning never strikes the same rod twice.

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So he is basically in midseason form.

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Man, we must produce soft players in New Orleans! We're snake bit I tell you!

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Have you been keeping up with other teams across the league? Every team is racking up injuries. There probably aren't any more than usual, but I believe teams may just be becoming more careful with the minor dings and such. In the past it was always just play through those strains and pulls. Now it's more rest and treat it right away so it doesn't become a real issue moving forward.

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I still say we're snake bit.:bugeyes:

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Those pesky snakes are everywhere. :D

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Had to comment on the video. :popcorn:

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I see that.

:bng:

:D

The guy has no idea what he's talking about.

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I guess my less than favorable view of mainstream sports media and talking heads is supported by this talking points position video.

Not that drafting a young QB for the long run is not a good strategy, but history does not point to it being a slam dunk learning on the job year 1. Overall don’t see 1st round drafted QB being the end all answer either. But that seems to be the “group speak” mantra. But that seems to be choice by the media, their record speaks for its self.

Case in point, not heard much about Bryce Young except, #1 pick #1 pick but little actual evaluation in depth of Bryce’s performance from the media on a national level. Bryce being the starting QB, seems like a long shot and we all know Andy Dalton ceiling. I liked Andy and he was the better choice the the mess of the QB room after Sean’s departure.

Also noticed was the detailed accounting of every teams off-season additions of drafts and free agency signings except the Saints. Carr was mentioned early and towards the end a brief mention Kendra Miller and Jamal Williams. Other teams made solid to exceptional signings, really. Nothing else about our 1st round and multiple free agent signings.

I realize it’s being reported by local media but we also have a young QB drafted who by all points reporting is one of standouts in training camp. Able to make all the throws, helping draft picks and free agent wideouts get solid reps because he has command of the offense and actually make the throws is affording theses guys solid reps and better chance making positive impression on the coaching staff. Also just recently reported he has the highest completion rate during camp of all the QB’s. Is his future success certain at this point, no, but he has earn a spot on this roster and will be able to learn under his long time mentor. No right or wrong here.

I like the chances of success with the Saints approach. I like Carr or not he is a starting QB and even by media Carr is generally rated around 15th best in the league. The other option is QB transitioned into full time backup QB closing out his career being the started while the young gun find his level in the todays NFL or just throwing the rookie to the hounds straight away… Just Saying.

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There are only a few national pundits who actually know the Saints. He's not one of them. Same crap.....different mouth. :roll:

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Atlanta just took another hit to their roster.