Official 2023 Saints Draft Thread

neugey · 04-28-2023, 06:43 AM

Originally Posted by BakoSaint

I don't love that we drafted a player with an injury history, but its one injury, so a lot better than if it was a chronic series of injuries. If he doesn't stay healthy the front office needs to look in the mirror, not curse the heavens, because this was a known thing, but he certainly may stay healthy. If he reinjures the ACL in the 1st quarter of our first preseason game and retires and we go 0-17, ok, we have the 1st overall pick in the 2024 draft. Thats the great thing about not trading up, if we miss, we got insurance in the form of value added to our pick next year.

I do love that we didn't trade up, drafted a position of need, and still have all our 2024 picks.

It would be better if he had returned to dominance in 2022 but then we might have traded our 2024 1st round pick to move up and get him. I see he had a kidney infection in 2022 and I could see how that might slow a person down for awhile, so I don't like any excuses, but I like a lot of other excuses worse than that one.

I am glad we didn't draft a TE. I think the position is just too unpredictable to spend high picks on. Also TE almost never contribute the first year. And then if they do somehow develop in later years to justify a big second contract, they rarely hold up to justify that contract. And fit is such a complicated factor for a TE in an offense, very few are successful with two teams. Meanwhile, all kinds of mid round TE are incredibly successful because they happen to be the guy who can become a workout warrior to the next level in the pros with great facilities and no classes, and they happen to be the rare guy who can go over the middle in the nfl and bruise people without falling apart themselves. Its so unpredictable who can be that guy at TE in the NFL. So many of the sure things at TE in the nfl draft miss, and if they do happen to hit, they still rarely get a ring without an elite QB. So I am glad if we never draft a TE in the 1st or 2nd round in the rest of our franchise history.

I think it was stupid that the Falcons spent a top 10 pick on a RB. Yeah he is great. Fournette was great. Edward Helaire was great. Nadjee Harris was great. Breece Hall hasn't torn an ACL posting Aaron Rodgers memes on twitter yet. 50/50 this guy won't be better than the RB we signed for $4 million a year in free agency.

Bijan looks like he could be Saquon Barkley without the injuries. I am biased as a Texas fan, but chances are fairly good Bijan will do great in the NFL.

But I agree on the TE comments. Another thing I was thinking about last night is this: perhaps Carr can "unlock" our current tight ends Jawan, Trautman and Taysom and get them to perform better. After all, Waller and Moreau and even Jared Cook did well with Carr on the Raiders. God willing, there's also a shot Moreau signs with us after beating lymphoma and fills out the TE room.

The UCLA RB is tempting and wouldn't be bad, but I'd love to see us stay on defense and draft for value and take S Drake or CB Porter Jr, Ringo or DJ Turner. As I posted the other day, we almost always seem to crush it drafting DB's.

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papz · 04-28-2023, 08:02 AM

No complaints here with Bresee. We address a position of need in a area of need. We've had trouble stopping the run and Bresee is a big h'fer with a ceiling he hasn't really tapped into in college. I do wish Nielsen was still here to work with him but Grantham has a ton of experience that we should be fine.

If we took another DT later on in the mid rounds I would not be surprised. I'm not opposed to trading up in the second round either.

K Major · 04-28-2023, 08:11 AM

Bresee is a dawg.

Welcome to NOLA.

Boston Saint · 04-28-2023, 08:22 AM

TE next!

K Major · 04-28-2023, 08:23 AM

Day 2 …

O line? TE? Or DE?

Still lots of quality prospects available that can help in year 1.

iceshack149 · 04-28-2023, 08:24 AM

Another big guy on the line at 6'5" and this guy is quick. He's been through a lot over the past couple of years including losing his little sister to cancer. The hard times make a person stronger in life and I'm hoping that Bresee has the mental strength that matches his physical abilities.
Strong pick and the Saints didn't lose any draft picks... so far.

iceshack149 · 04-28-2023, 08:32 AM

CB's Joey Porter jr. and Brian Branch are still available. So are some solid looking TE's in Darnell Washington and Michael Mayer (please stay away from QB Will Levis)
I wouldn't be surprised if the Saints picked Steve Avila or O'Cyrus Torrence with the next pick.

WW_Who_Dat · 04-28-2023, 08:40 AM

This guy is impressive … speed, twitch, bend and power … Welcome to the Saints BB 👏👏👏👏

04-28-2023, 06:43 AM	#81
neugey Hu Dat! Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 6,606 Blog Entries: 13	Re: Official 2023 Saints Draft Thread Originally Posted by BakoSaint I don't love that we drafted a player with an injury history, but its one injury, so a lot better than if it was a chronic series of injuries. If he doesn't stay healthy the front office needs to look in the mirror, not curse the heavens, because this was a known thing, but he certainly may stay healthy. If he reinjures the ACL in the 1st quarter of our first preseason game and retires and we go 0-17, ok, we have the 1st overall pick in the 2024 draft. Thats the great thing about not trading up, if we miss, we got insurance in the form of value added to our pick next year. I do love that we didn't trade up, drafted a position of need, and still have all our 2024 picks. It would be better if he had returned to dominance in 2022 but then we might have traded our 2024 1st round pick to move up and get him. I see he had a kidney infection in 2022 and I could see how that might slow a person down for awhile, so I don't like any excuses, but I like a lot of other excuses worse than that one. I am glad we didn't draft a TE. I think the position is just too unpredictable to spend high picks on. Also TE almost never contribute the first year. And then if they do somehow develop in later years to justify a big second contract, they rarely hold up to justify that contract. And fit is such a complicated factor for a TE in an offense, very few are successful with two teams. Meanwhile, all kinds of mid round TE are incredibly successful because they happen to be the guy who can become a workout warrior to the next level in the pros with great facilities and no classes, and they happen to be the rare guy who can go over the middle in the nfl and bruise people without falling apart themselves. Its so unpredictable who can be that guy at TE in the NFL. So many of the sure things at TE in the nfl draft miss, and if they do happen to hit, they still rarely get a ring without an elite QB. So I am glad if we never draft a TE in the 1st or 2nd round in the rest of our franchise history. I think it was stupid that the Falcons spent a top 10 pick on a RB. Yeah he is great. Fournette was great. Edward Helaire was great. Nadjee Harris was great. Breece Hall hasn't torn an ACL posting Aaron Rodgers memes on twitter yet. 50/50 this guy won't be better than the RB we signed for $4 million a year in free agency. Bijan looks like he could be Saquon Barkley without the injuries. I am biased as a Texas fan, but chances are fairly good Bijan will do great in the NFL. But I agree on the TE comments. Another thing I was thinking about last night is this: perhaps Carr can "unlock" our current tight ends Jawan, Trautman and Taysom and get them to perform better. After all, Waller and Moreau and even Jared Cook did well with Carr on the Raiders. God willing, there's also a shot Moreau signs with us after beating lymphoma and fills out the TE room. The UCLA RB is tempting and wouldn't be bad, but I'd love to see us stay on defense and draft for value and take S Drake or CB Porter Jr, Ringo or DJ Turner. As I posted the other day, we almost always seem to crush it drafting DB's. iceshack149 and AsylumGuido like this.

04-28-2023, 08:02 AM	#84
papz Problem? Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: New Orleans Posts: 11,698	Re: Official 2023 Saints Draft Thread No complaints here with Bresee. We address a position of need in a area of need. We've had trouble stopping the run and Bresee is a big h'fer with a ceiling he hasn't really tapped into in college. I do wish Nielsen was still here to work with him but Grantham has a ton of experience that we should be fine. If we took another DT later on in the mid rounds I would not be surprised. I'm not opposed to trading up in the second round either.

04-28-2023, 08:11 AM	#85
K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,065 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Official 2023 Saints Draft Thread Bresee is a dawg. Welcome to NOLA.

04-28-2023, 08:22 AM	#86
Boston Saint 1000 Posts + Join Date: Nov 2020 Location: Massachusetts Posts: 4,878	Re: Official 2023 Saints Draft Thread TE next!

04-28-2023, 08:23 AM	#87
K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,065 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Official 2023 Saints Draft Thread Day 2 … O line? TE? Or DE? Still lots of quality prospects available that can help in year 1. Mr.Riaton likes this.

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04-28-2023, 08:24 AM	#88
iceshack149 1000 Posts + Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Fairbanks, AK Posts: 4,097 Blog Entries: 1	Re: Official 2023 Saints Draft Thread Another big guy on the line at 6'5" and this guy is quick. He's been through a lot over the past couple of years including losing his little sister to cancer. The hard times make a person stronger in life and I'm hoping that Bresee has the mental strength that matches his physical abilities. Strong pick and the Saints didn't lose any draft picks... so far.

04-28-2023, 08:32 AM	#89
iceshack149 1000 Posts + Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Fairbanks, AK Posts: 4,097 Blog Entries: 1	Re: Official 2023 Saints Draft Thread CB's Joey Porter jr. and Brian Branch are still available. So are some solid looking TE's in Darnell Washington and Michael Mayer (please stay away from QB Will Levis) I wouldn't be surprised if the Saints picked Steve Avila or O'Cyrus Torrence with the next pick. papz, Rugby Saint II, K Major and 1 others like this.

04-28-2023, 08:40 AM	#90
WW_Who_Dat 1000 Posts + Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Lafayette, La and Valencia CA Posts: 1,166 Blog Entries: 1	Re: Official 2023 Saints Draft Thread This guy is impressive … speed, twitch, bend and power … Welcome to the Saints BB 👏👏👏👏 iceshack149 and Rugby Saint II like this.