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AsylumGuido 04-29-2023 03:28 PM
Saints Pick 6.18 - WR A.T. Perry
 

AsylumGuido 04-29-2023 03:29 PM
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rezburna 04-29-2023 03:51 PM
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Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 973490)
Thank you. 🙏🏽

iceshack149 04-29-2023 03:53 PM
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I was really hoping the light would come on for Trautman. Payton must see something in him that many of us don't. Or maybe it's a sentimental trade.

BakoSaint 04-29-2023 04:00 PM
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Does Denver have any picks left? Trequan Smith is available!

AsylumGuido 04-29-2023 04:08 PM
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iceshack149 04-29-2023 04:35 PM
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OverviewLong wideout with quick feet and erratic hands who falls neatly into the category of higher-ceiling, lower-floor prospect. Perry has been highly targeted and highly productive over the last two seasons. He’s crafty but physical in the early stages of the route and flashes the ability to become a more dangerous route runner with additional work. He has the tools to work all three levels of the field, but his drops and ordinary ball skills sap some of the excitement surrounding his massive wingspan. Perry’s inconsistencies can be frustrating, but his talent and traits make him worthy of a Day 2 selection as a potential WR2/3.
Strengths
  • Tall wideout with elite arm length.
  • Able to stutter and widen to beat press.
  • Shows corners a variety of speeds early in the route.
  • Resilience to play through grabby, physical coverage.
  • Loose ankles allow for tight cornering and cuts.
  • Carries good long speed on vertical routes.
  • Protects the throw by driving back on the throw.
  • Feet to evade a tackle and size to break one.


Weaknesses
  • Shows inconsistent vertical push to threaten off-man coverage.
  • Takes him time to execute change of direction.
  • Lacks ideal coordination adjusting to the throw.
  • Allows football to get on top of him, leading to drops (17 over past two seasons, per PFF).
  • Below average feel for footwork on sideline grabs.
  • Unlikely to spring many runs with tough blocking.
https://www.nfl.com/prospects/a-t-pe...3-9308cc0d5b93
Big dude with speed and long arms. Hope he pans out!

AsylumGuido 04-29-2023 05:06 PM
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Originally Posted by iceshack149 (Post 973502)
I was really hoping the light would come on for Trautman. Payton must see something in him that many of us don't. Or maybe it's a sentimental trade.
I always thought that it wasn't so much a light not coming on, but more of not having a QB able to take advantage of his talents. I was hoping to see him blossom with Carr who has made several TE's look great, but it is what it is.

neugey 04-29-2023 08:03 PM
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We know he looks good in black and gold! And I'm thinking Wake Forest has the best B&G uniforms in college football, apologies to Purdue!

SmashMouth 04-29-2023 08:13 PM
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Originally Posted by iceshack149 (Post 973502)
I was really hoping the light would come on for Trautman. Payton must see something in him that many of us don't. Or maybe it's a sentimental trade.
TBH, wtf does SP see in his CB pick for the Broncos?

At the end of the day , we got something which we parleyed into this WR

cmike 04-29-2023 08:20 PM
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Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 973514)
I always thought that it wasn't so much a light not coming on, but more of not having a QB able to take advantage of his talents. I was hoping to see him blossom with Carr who has made several TE's look great, but it is what it is.
Adam just always seem like he was playing injured. Catch a pass, limp off the field kinda guy.

BakoSaint 04-29-2023 08:24 PM
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Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 973514)
I always thought that it wasn't so much a light not coming on, but more of not having a QB able to take advantage of his talents. I was hoping to see him blossom with Carr who has made several TE's look great, but it is what it is.
It's true that Trautman never played with a QB who could douse the ball in super glue immediately before throwing it, then rinse Trautman's hands with paint thinner to remove the ball, all without the refs or cameras taking notice. However, a converted WR named Juwan Johnson was able to take advantage of his own talents with lesser QBs.

SmashMouth 04-29-2023 08:29 PM
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SmashMouth 04-30-2023 09:37 AM
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SmashMouth 05-01-2023 05:59 PM
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rezburna 05-01-2023 09:03 PM
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Originally Posted by SmashMouth (Post 973545)
TBH, wtf does SP see in his CB pick for the Broncos?

At the end of the day , we got something which we parleyed into this WR
The corner got smooth hips and good burst out of breaks. He also has great speed for the position. 6’1” is great size for the position as well. I don’t like him in man to man though. If they’re going to adopt that Cover 3/Legion of Boom defense that Payton always wanted to run it could definitely work. He has good ball skills. I don’t like him in man though. I saw a few guys put his ass in a blender; same thing for Kelee Ringo.

neugey 05-01-2023 10:00 PM
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I have a feeling once we get into training camp AT Perry is going to be looking as hot as Katy Perry!

https://akns-images.eonline.com/eol_...024;center,top

K Major 05-02-2023 02:35 PM
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K Major 05-02-2023 02:37 PM
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I agree with Rich ... with those long strides, it appears as though he was jogging :). 4.47 straight line is nothing to sneeze at.

The Dude 05-02-2023 02:40 PM
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Damn who will we get to replace him? I’m kind of out of the loop.

AsylumGuido 05-02-2023 02:42 PM
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Originally Posted by The Dude (Post 973729)
Damn who will we get to replace him? I’m kind of out of the loop.
Who will we get to replace who?

Edit: Oh! Okay. Trautman was mentioned early in the thread. There's several good TE's out there as free agents. Cameron Brate may be at the top of the list, but there are a dozen other vets. And we did add at least one UDFA, as well, that was compared to Kittle (for what that's worth).

The Dude 05-02-2023 02:44 PM
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Who will we get to replace who?
Troutman

AsylumGuido 05-02-2023 02:46 PM
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Originally Posted by The Dude (Post 973731)
Troutman
Got it. See above.

And we still have Taysom who should be fulltime TE and Krull, as well, to go with Juwan Johnson.

K Major 05-02-2023 03:02 PM
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Originally Posted by The Dude (Post 973729)
Damn who will we get to replace him? I’m kind of out of the loop.
TheDude,

Check out this quick read. Interesting insight.

Maybe A.T. is a true baller.

SmashMouth 05-02-2023 03:04 PM
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Originally Posted by K Major (Post 973733)
TheDude,

Check out this quick read. Interesting insight.

Maybe A.T. is a true baller.
AT and the kid form Central Michigan, according to the Whiners is the next coming of Kittle?

K Major 05-02-2023 03:33 PM
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Originally Posted by SmashMouth (Post 973735)
AT and the kid form Central Michigan, according to the Whiners is the next coming of Kittle?
I'm all ears if the Niners were talking him up.

They know a thing or two about scouting tight ends.

Training camp awaits.

AsylumGuido 05-05-2023 08:22 AM
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hitta 05-05-2023 09:34 AM
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This guy has a very high ceiling, don't let the drops fool you. He has really good hands. The drops are caused by him letting the ball get in too close to him. I think this is more correctable than fumbley hands. I truly think this guy is the best pick in our draft.

Mr.Riaton 05-05-2023 09:35 AM
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I really like all of our picks, but this guy I’m the most intrigued about. From what I can see he looks like he should’ve went much higher than he did. Is he a major steal perhaps? Looking forward to see what he can do

Rugby Saint II 05-06-2023 01:19 PM
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He won't see much playing time if he drops balls. He has the tools but dropped balls are drive killers. Maybe he can work on his concentration and do a better job of bringing down passes.

K Major 05-06-2023 04:43 PM
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AT Perry said he was told it was some “character stuff” as to why he dropped in the draft.

Well, here’s your shot.

I hope he does well.

BakoSaint 05-06-2023 06:01 PM
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It will be interesting to see who has more receiving yards in 2023, Perry or Thomas. Its a tough call. Either one is capable of 0 or 1000. I think the median expectation for both should be around 200-300.

Rugby Saint II 05-07-2023 11:24 AM
Re: Saints Pick 6.18 - WR A.T. Perry
 
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Originally Posted by BakoSaint (Post 973890)
It will be interesting to see who has more receiving yards in 2023, Perry or Thomas. Its a tough call. Either one is capable of 0 or 1000. I think the median expectation for both should be around 200-300.
Let's not forget about Bryan Edwards who Carr has a connection with. If MT plays half the games, especially the early season games when we are establishing our rhythm, then I expect Thomas to easily get 500 or 600 yards if he can hold up to the heavy usage. if not, then Perry who has a tendency to drop balls, should slowly see more playing time with Edwards. Nothing will help him see the field until he gets his focus and drops corrected though.

AsylumGuido 05-07-2023 12:17 PM
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Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II (Post 973901)
Let's not forget about Bryan Edwards who Carr has a connection with. If MT plays half the games, especially the early season games when we are establishing our rhythm, then I expect Thomas to easily get 500 or 600 yards if he can hold up to the heavy usage. if not, then Perry who has a tendency to drop balls, should slowly see more playing time with Edwards. Nothing will help him see the field until he gets his focus and drops corrected though.
I personally expect Thomas to play 17 games plus the playoff run. His body has received almost no wear and tear in recent years and he should be in excellent shape.

BakoSaint 05-08-2023 09:46 AM
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Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 973907)
I personally expect Thomas to play 17 games plus the playoff run. His body has received almost no wear and tear in recent years and he should be in excellent shape.
Same logic applies for Zion...

And yeah, his body has received tear, just didn't require much wear to get it.

K Major 05-08-2023 10:51 AM
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Originally Posted by BakoSaint (Post 973890)
It will be interesting to see who has more receiving yards in 2023, Perry or Thomas. Its a tough call. Either one is capable of 0 or 1000. I think the median expectation for both should be around 200-300.
Big picture (year or two), let's hope Perry pans out and eventually replaces Michael Thomas @ WR. At this point, Can't Call Mike is just an idea. Hope is a 4-letter word.

There are a small few here that still haven't removed their B&G glasses and looked at this objectively. A 30-year-old WR that has missed 40 of 50 games in nearly 3 seasons - & still isn't 100 %.

Anyone here who claims to know how many games MT will play in 2023, truly doesn't know :rolleyes:.

hitta 05-08-2023 04:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II (Post 973882)
He won't see much playing time if he drops balls. He has the tools but dropped balls are drive killers. Maybe he can work on his concentration and do a better job of bringing down passes.
It's really strange, it's like he doesn't position his hands at the right point to catch the ball. He lets it get too much in on him. On an opposite note, I've seen him snag some pretty impressive catches out of the air. Like I don't think his hands are the problem, it's a timing issue. I mean a drop is still a drop in a game. I think his issues are more correctable than someone that is just clumsy with their hands though. That's just the impression I get from watching him.

AsylumGuido 05-08-2023 04:27 PM
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Originally Posted by hitta (Post 973942)
It's really strange, it's like he doesn't position his hands at the right point to catch the ball. He lets it get too much in on him. On an opposite note, I've seen him snag some pretty impressive catches out of the air. Like I don't think his hands are the problem, it's a timing issue. I mean a drop is still a drop in a game. I think his issues are more correctable than someone that is just clumsy with their hands though. That's just the impression I get from watching him.
That sounds basically like what Ireland said about him.

SmashMouth 05-09-2023 05:08 AM
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