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iceshack149 05-01-2023 12:54 PM

Saints Management
 
I'm interested in the overall opinion of of the Saints Brass. Please share opinions and comparisons. For what it's worth, I think it's run very well especially considering where this team was when I started really paying attention in the early 80's. :bng:

SmashMouth 05-01-2023 12:59 PM

Re: Saints Management
 
Jury is still out IMHO. We were taken advantage of pre-SP, then spoiled, then our expectations raised and dashed, then disappointed, then some resumption of optimism , then post-SP, we're settling in with reality for now with a bit higher expectations. The tell tale, in order words, is upcoming in the nest two-three years. We're still along for he ride as we transition.

:popcorn:
:bng:

papz 05-01-2023 01:09 PM

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My stance on Loomis has been the same for quite some time now. I find him very replaceable. Ireland is the talent evaluator and the HC has a big hand in the personnel decisions. I'd prefer having a our HC focused on coaching and giving insight on personnel when needed. Getting a "franchise" quarterback down here IMO will keep the structure intact for the next couple of years. But if we remain stagnant in our performance, I expect to see a complete overhaul in our front office.

K Major 05-01-2023 01:22 PM

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I think the front office has been solid over the years.

While I don't always agree with all of the moves, I totally respect & give them credit for some of their unconventional team-building strategies over the years.

Loomis has his share of faults, & "tendencies" however he was able to assemble coaches & players to hoist us a Lombardi.

We've been extremely competitive over the last few decades. Are we the Chiefs, Eagles, or Niners front office yet? No, but we've managed to be heading in the right direction.

I admire the continuity & stability of the Saints front office.

iceshack149 05-01-2023 01:49 PM

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The way that Loomis and Hartley have handled the contracts over the past two decades has been arguably game changing.

Most importantly, the Bensons have made the players feel like family. How many times have you heard players refer to Mrs. Benson affectionately as Mrs. B? I know that's ownership but it does play a part in management.

rezburna 05-02-2023 10:17 AM

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I’d say slightly above average. We’ve been a stable and relatively consistent organization since about the year 2000 and we’re constantly making moves that should put us in a position win.

Boston Saint 05-02-2023 02:09 PM

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I’m well into my fifties, so Going back to the beginning means Rating many different head offices. When the Saints first joined the league, they were an expansion team, and the pool of players they had access to was different than the way later expansion teams like the Panthers and Jaguars had to pull from.

I’d say the Jim Finks era was a turning point. Winning percentages and a “Moneyball” type formula could give definite ranking, but It’s tough for me to not put them into Best in the league. I say this based upon these points:

I firmly believe without ref cheating we have a second SB. If we had won that, we are in an “upper tier” group of teams and earn more respect. A two time Brees lead Payton Coached SB team eclipses what Bill Parcells did. Loomis and company brought that.

The Loomis lead brass had to deal with 2 Tragedies that no other NFL franchise has had to deal with. Hurricanes and the BS that was bounty gate. Natural disasters and a Witch-hunt. They did more than put good teams out there…they rebuilt and defended the community.

They have routinely put competitive teams on the field and remained in playoff contention until the end of the season. Our last top 5 pick was, what, about 30 years ago? We were know for many exciting playoff games that unfortunately ended in heartbreaking losses. In many ways we have been like the 80s Bills for the last 20 years.

Pats, Steelers, KC, maybe Baltimore. Not many teams I’d put above us.

SmashMouth 05-02-2023 03:06 PM

Re: Saints Management
 
I wouldn't mind sporting the Pats' history of the last 20 years... For those residing in Bahston, must feel like double dipping.

Boston Saint 05-02-2023 03:32 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by SmashMouth (Post 973736)
I wouldn't mind sporting the Pats' history of the last 20 years... For those residing in Bahston, must feel like double dipping.

Yeah, that Brady/Bill combination was something. Unfortunately for me , I was always a Saints guy and never really “pulled” for them. Except against the Falcons and Rams in the SB of course.

iceshack149 05-02-2023 04:08 PM

Re: Saints Management
 
Two people picked Sad Times? :bugeyes:


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