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Boston Saint 05-09-2023 11:30 AM
Re: The 2023 JeanPierre Saints Roster Depth Chart Thread
 
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Originally Posted by SmashMouth (Post 973974)
They keep saying that, about Bresee needing time. Is that to keep our expectations in line? Even with the notion that DTs may need some time to develop and gel with the team, my expectation, our expectation should be to see him inserted immediately and produce immediate results. He's no longer injured. Suh was a force to be reckoned with in year one. And Bresee was being compared to Suh.

Don't disagree for depth purposes, however.
+1. Unless you are a team stacked at all positions then you should expect to get a starter with your first round pick.

K Major 05-09-2023 11:37 AM
Re: The 2023 JeanPierre Saints Roster Depth Chart Thread
 
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Originally Posted by SmashMouth (Post 973974)
They keep saying that, about Bresee needing time. Is that to keep our expectations in line?
And “they’re” right ;).

AsylumGuido 05-09-2023 11:44 AM
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Who is this "they" that says Bresee needs time?

https://www.espn.com/nfl/draft/positions/_/position/dt

Pre-Draft Analysis

Bresee is a dominant run defender with the strength to stack and shed blockers. He has the quick hands and feet to slip and split linemen. He locates the football quickly, chases down ball carriers and is an effective tackler. As a pass-rusher, he needs to improve his ability to string together multiple moves. He's powerful and flashes as a hand fighter. -- Steve Muench

Matt Miller's NFL comp: Zach Allen

Post-Draft Analysis

Bresee is a powerful interior defensive lineman with the size to control the line of scrimmage. With Khalen Saunders added in free agency, Bresee will be asked to start next to him, with Cameron Jordan flanking them. Bresee has tremendous upside if he can stay healthy and is a natural fit in a 4-3 front. -- Miller

Projected Year 1 impact: High-impact Day 1 starter. Bresee enters a team that desperately needs help along the interior, and he brings a young pass rush presence that's also stout against the run. -- Jordan Reid

SmashMouth 05-10-2023 02:50 PM
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AsylumGuido 05-10-2023 03:03 PM
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Updated Ourlads Depth Chart as of 2:57 this afternoon, May 10th.

OFFENSE

LWR12Olave, Chris 22/117Perry, A.T. 23/615Baker, Kawaan 21/788Flowers, Malik CF23  
RWR13THOMAS, MICHAEL 16/218Kirkwood, Keith CF1811Edwards, Bryan SF2380Davis, Shaquan CF23  
SWR22Shaheed, Rashid CF2210Smith, Tre'Quan 18/333Merritt, Kirk SF2281Barnett, Sy CF23  
LT70Penning, Trevor 22/174HURST, JAMES CC/Bal66Kidd, Lewis CF22    
LG75Peat, Andrus 15/176Throckmorton, Calvin CF2079Durant, Yasir SF2273Evans II, Mark CF23  
C78McCoy, Erik 19/265Pihlstrom, Alex CF23      
RG51Ruiz, Cesar 20/164Saldiveri, Nick 23/460Martin, Koda SF23    
RT71Ramczyk, Ryan 17/172Norton, Storm U/LAC67Young, Landon 21/6    
TE83Johnson, Juwan CF207HILL, TAYSOM W/GB Moreau, Foster U/LV87Krull, Lucas CF2286Forristall, Miller SF23
TE        85Wilson, Joel CF23
QB4CARR, DEREK CC/LV2Winston, Jameis U/TB14Haener, Jake 23/4    
RB41Kamara, Alvin 17/330Williams, Jamaal U/Det25Miller, Kendre 23/324Washington, Dwayne SF1826Benjamin, Eno W/Hou
RB        34Thompson Jr., SaRodorick CF23
FB46Prentice, Adam W/Den        

DEFENSE

LDE94JORDAN, CAMERON 11/192Kpassagnon, Tanoh U/KC59Zuniga, Jabari SF22    
LDT93Shepherd, Nathan U/NYJ99Saunders, Khalen U/KC77Cage, Jerron CF23    
RDT90Bresee, Bryan 23/197Roach, Malcolm CF2057Emili, Prince SF22    
RDE96Granderson, Carl CF1955Foskey, Isaiah 23/298Turner, Payton 21/1    
WLB20Werner, Pete 21/250Dowell, Andrew SF1943Connelly, Ryan SF2340Anderson, Nick CF23  
MLB56DAVIS, DEMARIO U/NYJ52Jackson, D'Marco 22/545Sewell, Nephi CF22    
SLB53Baun, Zack 20/342Summers, Ty P/Jax58Orji, Anfernee CF23    
LCB29Adebo, Paulson 21/31Taylor, Alontae 22/237Pride Jr., Troy SF2336Johnson, Anthony CF23  
SS32MATHIEU, TYRANN U/KC24Abram, Johnathan U/Sea38Monday, Smoke CF22    
FS6Maye, Marcus U/NYJ31Howden, Jordan 23/548Gray, J.T. CF18    
RCB23Lattimore, Marshon 17/127Yiadom, Isaac SF2235Gray, Vincent CF22    
NB21ROBY, BRADLEY T/Hou28Johnson Jr., Lonnie U/Ten00Amadi, Ugo SF23    

SPECIAL TEAMS

PT5Gillikin, Blake CF2039Hedley, Lou CF23      
PK3Lutz, Wil SF1619Quevedo, Alex SF2347Grupe, Blake CF23    
LS49WOOD, ZACH SF17        
H5Gillikin, Blake CF2039Hedley, Lou CF23      
KO3Lutz, Wil SF1619Quevedo, Alex SF2347Grupe, Blake CF23    
PR22Shaheed, Rashid CF22        
KR22Shaheed, Rashid CF2224Washington, Dwayne SF18      

K Major 05-10-2023 04:39 PM
Re: The 2023 JeanPierre Saints Roster Depth Chart Thread
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by SmashMouth (Post 973974)
They keep saying that, about Bresee needing time. Is that to keep our expectations in line? Even with the notion that DTs may need some time to develop and gel with the team, my expectation, our expectation should be to see him inserted immediately and produce immediate results.
Not sure if you are locked in to any of Mike Detillier's takes, however a few days back he was talking about how most players (D line specifically) will either take a couple of years to develop as a complete DT because they need to refine technique based on height.

His example used was Chris Jones (similar height/torso to Bryan). Year 1, 2 he was getting gashed vs the run until he polished up and developed.

I thought that was an astute observation.

Will BB START immediately? ... I hope so but personally I'm not expecting "immediate results". It takes time. The NFL is a different beast.

SmashMouth 05-11-2023 08:16 AM
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Originally Posted by K Major (Post 974065)
Not sure if you are locked in to any of Mike Detillier's takes, however a few days back he was talking about how most players (D line specifically) will either take a couple of years to develop as a complete DT because they need to refine technique based on height.

His example used was Chris Jones (similar height/torso to Bryan). Year 1, 2 he was getting gashed vs the run until he polished up and developed.

I thought that was an astute observation.

Will BB START immediately? ... I hope so but personally I'm not expecting "immediate results". It takes time. The NFL is a different beast.
Detillier has been as astute as he's been off the mark on players if one is to assess his observations through the years. The video you posted with Greg Cosell seems to show a bit more insight than what Detillier offers.

SmashMouth 05-11-2023 08:31 AM
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RWR 13 THOMAS, MICHAEL 16/2 18 Kirkwood, Keith CF18 11 Edwards, Bryan SF23 80 Davis, Shaquan CF23
SWR 22 Shaheed, Rashid CF22 10 Smith, Tre'Quan 18/3 33 Merritt, Kirk SF22 81 Barnett, Sy CF23
IMHO, it's the last chance saloon for Bryan Edwards, Tre'Quan Smith, Keith Kirkwood, Keith Merritt. They may be on a short leach in the advent of injuries. The new kids AT Perry, Shaq Davis and Malik Flowers will make the team. Sy Barnett will need to make his mark on ST to make it. Locks are Olave, Thomas, Shaheed.

Rugby Saint II 05-11-2023 10:15 AM
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Originally Posted by SmashMouth (Post 974076)
IMHO, it's the last chance saloon for Bryan Edwards, Tre'Quan Smith, Keith Kirkwood, Keith Merritt. They may be on a short leach in the advent of injuries. The new kids AT Perry, Shaq Davis and Malik Flowers will make the team. Sy Barnett will need to make his mark on ST to make it. Locks are Olave, Thomas, Shaheed.
Two things that I'm hoping for. Tre'Quan finally gets cut. Bryan Edwards develops great timing with Carr and forces Smith off the roster.

K Major 05-12-2023 09:56 AM
Re: The 2023 JeanPierre Saints Roster Depth Chart Thread
 
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Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II (Post 974088)
Two things that I'm hoping for. Tre'Quan finally gets cut. Bryan Edwards develops great timing with Carr and forces Smith off the roster.
There are some analysts (Cosell, Baldinger) who believe this may be Edward's last opportunity in the NFL.

Let's just wait and see.


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