2023 Saints OTA Thread

rezburna · 05-30-2023, 10:34 AM

Wide Receiver seems like a deep position for us. Much deeper than prior years.

Michael Thomas
Chris Olave
Rashid Shaheed
Bryan Edwards
James Washington
A.T. Perry
Tre’Quan Smith

That’s good depth. Not to mention Juwan Johnson and Foster Moreau. I don’t have many concerns there.

SmashMouth · 05-30-2023, 10:39 AM

Originally Posted by rezburna

Wide Receiver seems like a deep position for us. Much deeper than prior years.

Michael Thomas
Chris Olave
Rashid Shaheed
Bryan Edwards
James Washington
A.T. Perry
Tre’Quan Smith

That’s good depth. Not to mention Juwan Johnson and Foster Moreau. I don’t have many concerns there.

Sprinkle in the new kid, Malik Flowers ... the SC St UDFA WR who will make the practice squad.

Not so sure 3Q makes the cut... we'll see.

rezburna · 05-30-2023, 10:53 AM

Originally Posted by SmashMouth

Sprinkle in the new kid, Malik Flowers ... the SC St UDFA WR who will make the practice squad.

Not ao sure 3Q makes the cut... we'll see.

I hope he doesn’t. I like Shaq Davis from SC State. With Bryan Edwards and James Washington both being former starters now serving as back ups I’m really confident at WR.

K Major · 05-30-2023, 11:42 AM

Originally Posted by rezburna

Wide Receiver seems like a deep position for us. Much deeper than prior years.

Michael Thomas
Chris Olave
Rashid Shaheed
Bryan Edwards
James Washington
A.T. Perry
Tre’Quan Smith

That’s good depth. Not to mention Juwan Johnson and Foster Moreau. I don’t have many concerns there.

Amazing how it's changed (roster) since Dennis became HC.

IMO that "I like our WR room" philosophy held us back & advancing while Brees was still under center. Who are you scaring with Callaway, Smith & Lil Jordan & Kirkwood?

Blockzilla (Trequan) has one foot off a cliff & the other on a banana peel in 2023. Slots #4-6 will have to excel on special teams/gunners to make this roster.

I see legitimate competition from these younger guys & I like how DA & staff are addressing needs (DT, WR, QB), in subsequent drafts.

Boston Saint · 05-30-2023, 12:18 PM

Originally Posted by K Major

Amazing how it's changed (roster) since Dennis became HC.

IMO that "I like our WR room" philosophy held us back & advancing while Brees was still under center. Who are you scaring with Callaway, Smith & Lil Jordan & Kirkwood?

Blockzilla (Trequan) has one foot off a cliff & the other on a banana peel in 2023. Slots #4-6 will have to excel on special teams/gunners to make this roster.

I see legitimate competition from these younger guys & I like how DA & staff are addressing needs (DT, WR, QB), in subsequent drafts.

To be fair though, he did spend high round picks on Cooks and Thomas.

K Major · 05-30-2023, 12:46 PM

Originally Posted by Boston Saint

To be fair though, he did spend high round picks on Cooks and Thomas.

In speaking in terms of recency.

Cooks was gone after 2016 & MT hasn't been healthy & contributing for several seasons now.

SmashMouth · 05-30-2023, 12:19 PM

Originally Posted by K Major

Amazing how it's changed (roster) since Dennis became HC.

IMO that "I like our WR room" philosophy held us back & advancing while Brees was still under center. Who are you scaring with Callaway, Smith & Lil Jordan & Kirkwood?

Blockzilla (Trequan) has one foot off a cliff & the other on a banana peel in 2023. Slots #4-6 will have to excel on special teams/gunners to make this roster.

I see legitimate competition from these younger guys & I like how DA & staff are addressing needs (DT, WR, QB), in subsequent drafts.

Meanwhile Lil' Jordan is trying to catch on in Denver.

K Major · 05-30-2023, 12:33 PM

Originally Posted by SmashMouth

Meanwhile Lil' Jordan is trying to catch on in Denver.

Good luck.

They better hope Patrick or Jeudy stays healthy in 2023.

Jordan and Callaway don't move the needle as pass catchers.

saintsfan1976 · 05-30-2023, 12:57 PM

Originally Posted by rezburna

Wide Receiver seems like a deep position for us. Much deeper than prior years.

Michael Thomas
Chris Olave
Rashid Shaheed
Bryan Edwards
James Washington
A.T. Perry
Tre’Quan Smith

That’s good depth. Not to mention Juwan Johnson and Foster Moreau. I don’t have many concerns there.

I'll play devil's advocate

Michael Thomas - obvious concerns, until proven otherwise. Just being fair
Chris Olave - legit #2 receiver and threat for yards
Rashid Shaheed - is he a legit #3? We'll see

These are essentially the same guy. Neither has more than 34 catches in any season.
Bryan Edwards
Tre’Quan Smith

However, will definitely agree having Juwan and Foster provide a ton of value at the TE position - and that both play it differently

rezburna · 05-30-2023, 01:04 PM

Originally Posted by saintsfan1976

I'll play devil's advocate

Michael Thomas - obvious concerns, until proven otherwise. Just being fair
Chris Olave - legit #2 receiver and threat for yards
Rashid Shaheed - is he a legit #3? We'll see

These are essentially the same guy. Neither has more than 34 catches in any season.
Bryan Edwards
Tre’Quan Smith

However, will definitely agree having Juwan and Foster provide a ton of value at the TE position - and that both play it differently

Edwards is going into his 4th year and already has a 500+ yard season. Tre is going into his 6th and hasn’t done that.

Olave is going to put up WR1 numbers. He’s that good.

I believe Shaheed can excel as the #3, but if he can’t we know James Washington is a legit slot.

05-30-2023, 10:34 AM	#1
rezburna 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Kenner, LA Posts: 8,090	Re: 2023 Saints OTA Thread Wide Receiver seems like a deep position for us. Much deeper than prior years. Michael Thomas Chris Olave Rashid Shaheed Bryan Edwards James Washington A.T. Perry Tre’Quan Smith That’s good depth. Not to mention Juwan Johnson and Foster Moreau. I don’t have many concerns there. SmashMouth and Boston Saint like this.

05-30-2023, 10:39 AM	#2
SmashMouth I donated, did you? Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Mandeville, LA Posts: 38,760 Blog Entries: 29	Re: 2023 Saints OTA Thread Originally Posted by rezburna Wide Receiver seems like a deep position for us. Much deeper than prior years. Michael Thomas Chris Olave Rashid Shaheed Bryan Edwards James Washington A.T. Perry Tre’Quan Smith That’s good depth. Not to mention Juwan Johnson and Foster Moreau. I don’t have many concerns there. Sprinkle in the new kid, Malik Flowers ... the SC St UDFA WR who will make the practice squad. Not so sure 3Q makes the cut... we'll see. rezburna and Boston Saint like this.
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05-30-2023, 12:18 PM	#5
Boston Saint 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Nov 2020 Location: Massachusetts Posts: 5,137	Re: 2023 Saints OTA Thread Originally Posted by K Major Amazing how it's changed (roster) since Dennis became HC. IMO that "I like our WR room" philosophy held us back & advancing while Brees was still under center. Who are you scaring with Callaway, Smith & Lil Jordan & Kirkwood? Blockzilla (Trequan) has one foot off a cliff & the other on a banana peel in 2023. Slots #4-6 will have to excel on special teams/gunners to make this roster. I see legitimate competition from these younger guys & I like how DA & staff are addressing needs (DT, WR, QB), in subsequent drafts. To be fair though, he did spend high round picks on Cooks and Thomas.

05-30-2023, 12:46 PM	#6
K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,827 Blog Entries: 3	Re: 2023 Saints OTA Thread Originally Posted by Boston Saint To be fair though, he did spend high round picks on Cooks and Thomas. In speaking in terms of recency. Cooks was gone after 2016 & MT hasn't been healthy & contributing for several seasons now.

05-30-2023, 12:19 PM	#7
SmashMouth I donated, did you? Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Mandeville, LA Posts: 38,760 Blog Entries: 29	Re: 2023 Saints OTA Thread Originally Posted by K Major Amazing how it's changed (roster) since Dennis became HC. IMO that "I like our WR room" philosophy held us back & advancing while Brees was still under center. Who are you scaring with Callaway, Smith & Lil Jordan & Kirkwood? Blockzilla (Trequan) has one foot off a cliff & the other on a banana peel in 2023. Slots #4-6 will have to excel on special teams/gunners to make this roster. I see legitimate competition from these younger guys & I like how DA & staff are addressing needs (DT, WR, QB), in subsequent drafts. Meanwhile Lil' Jordan is trying to catch on in Denver. Boston Saint likes this.

05-30-2023, 10:53 AM	#3
rezburna 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Kenner, LA Posts: 8,090	Re: 2023 Saints OTA Thread Originally Posted by SmashMouth Sprinkle in the new kid, Malik Flowers ... the SC St UDFA WR who will make the practice squad. Not ao sure 3Q makes the cut... we'll see. I hope he doesn’t. I like Shaq Davis from SC State. With Bryan Edwards and James Washington both being former starters now serving as back ups I’m really confident at WR. SmashMouth likes this.

05-30-2023, 11:42 AM	#4
K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,827 Blog Entries: 3	Re: 2023 Saints OTA Thread Originally Posted by rezburna Wide Receiver seems like a deep position for us. Much deeper than prior years. Michael Thomas Chris Olave Rashid Shaheed Bryan Edwards James Washington A.T. Perry Tre’Quan Smith That’s good depth. Not to mention Juwan Johnson and Foster Moreau. I don’t have many concerns there. Amazing how it's changed (roster) since Dennis became HC. IMO that "I like our WR room" philosophy held us back & advancing while Brees was still under center. Who are you scaring with Callaway, Smith & Lil Jordan & Kirkwood? Blockzilla (Trequan) has one foot off a cliff & the other on a banana peel in 2023. Slots #4-6 will have to excel on special teams/gunners to make this roster. I see legitimate competition from these younger guys & I like how DA & staff are addressing needs (DT, WR, QB), in subsequent drafts. Boston Saint likes this.

05-30-2023, 12:33 PM	#8
K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,827 Blog Entries: 3	Re: 2023 Saints OTA Thread Originally Posted by SmashMouth Meanwhile Lil' Jordan is trying to catch on in Denver. Good luck. They better hope Patrick or Jeudy stays healthy in 2023. Jordan and Callaway don't move the needle as pass catchers.

05-30-2023, 12:57 PM	#9
saintsfan1976 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Atlanta Posts: 11,017 Blog Entries: 3	Re: 2023 Saints OTA Thread Originally Posted by rezburna Wide Receiver seems like a deep position for us. Much deeper than prior years. Michael Thomas Chris Olave Rashid Shaheed Bryan Edwards James Washington A.T. Perry Tre’Quan Smith That’s good depth. Not to mention Juwan Johnson and Foster Moreau. I don’t have many concerns there. I'll play devil's advocate Michael Thomas - obvious concerns, until proven otherwise. Just being fair Chris Olave - legit #2 receiver and threat for yards Rashid Shaheed - is he a legit #3? We'll see These are essentially the same guy. Neither has more than 34 catches in any season. Bryan Edwards Tre’Quan Smith However, will definitely agree having Juwan and Foster provide a ton of value at the TE position - and that both play it differently

05-30-2023, 01:04 PM	#10
rezburna 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Kenner, LA Posts: 8,090	Re: 2023 Saints OTA Thread Originally Posted by saintsfan1976 I'll play devil's advocate Michael Thomas - obvious concerns, until proven otherwise. Just being fair Chris Olave - legit #2 receiver and threat for yards Rashid Shaheed - is he a legit #3? We'll see These are essentially the same guy. Neither has more than 34 catches in any season. Bryan Edwards Tre’Quan Smith However, will definitely agree having Juwan and Foster provide a ton of value at the TE position - and that both play it differently Edwards is going into his 4th year and already has a 500+ yard season. Tre is going into his 6th and hasn’t done that. Olave is going to put up WR1 numbers. He’s that good. I believe Shaheed can excel as the #3, but if he can’t we know James Washington is a legit slot. SmashMouth likes this.

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