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SmashMouth 05-19-2023 10:04 AM
Could The Saints Buck The Trend?
 

Boston Saint 05-19-2023 10:45 AM
Re: Could The Saints Buck The Trend?
 
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Originally Posted by SmashMouth (Post 974382)
Yes

SmashMouth 05-19-2023 11:17 AM
Re: Could The Saints Buck The Trend?
 

K Major 05-19-2023 11:39 AM
Re: Could The Saints Buck The Trend?
 
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Originally Posted by SmashMouth (Post 974391)

Quick recap:

The Saints still have a bunch of "what if's" because of health & no one truly knows how many games Michael Thomas will play in 2023.

CB depth is probably our strength but still wasn't good enough.

NO TAKEAWAYS (franchise low) on defense in 2022.

And Will Lutz is no longer Mr. Automatic :(.

Yep, all of these FA roster moves, and the draft is good on paper. Players still gotta play/execute & coaches gotta coach.

Let's geaux :bng:

SmashMouth 05-19-2023 12:15 PM
Re: Could The Saints Buck The Trend?
 
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Originally Posted by K Major (Post 974392)
Quick recap:

The Saints still have a bunch of "what if's" because of health & no one truly knows how many games Michael Thomas will play in 2023.

CB depth is probably our strength but still wasn't good enough.

NO TAKEAWAYS (franchise low) on defense in 2022.

And Will Lutz is no longer Mr. Automatic :(.

Yep, all of these FA roster moves, and the draft is good on paper. Players still gotta play/execute & coaches gotta coach.

Let's geaux :bng:
So Mr. Choke is excited then?

leilung 05-19-2023 12:46 PM
Re: Could The Saints Buck The Trend?
 
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Originally Posted by K Major (Post 974392)
Quick recap:

The Saints still have a bunch of "what if's" because of health & no one truly knows how many games Michael Thomas will play in 2023.

CB depth is probably our strength but still wasn't good enough.

NO TAKEAWAYS (franchise low) on defense in 2022.

And Will Lutz is no longer Mr. Automatic :(.

Yep, all of these FA roster moves, and the draft is good on paper. Players still gotta play/execute & coaches gotta coach.

Let's geaux :bng:
We'll see. The front office has done a lot towards giving the team a fighting chance with depth at WR, OL, and CB. Let's see what happens in camp. Health seems to be the number two problem with hindering this team's success. Number one would be play calling. :bng:

AsylumGuido 05-19-2023 04:30 PM
Re: Could The Saints Buck The Trend?
 
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Originally Posted by leilung (Post 974395)
We'll see. The front office has done a lot towards giving the team a fighting chance with depth at WR, OL, and CB. Let's see what happens in camp. Health seems to be the number two problem with hindering this team's success. Number one would be play calling. :bng:
Don't forget that playcalling depends upon having players that can execute. Missing 3/5th's of the offensive line, your starting QB, and three of your top WR's has a tendency to play havoc with having called plays executed properly. From the stands I could see wide open receivers consistently ignored by Dalton. Sure, Carmichael could have been more aggressive at times, but you can hang a lot of that on the players or lack there of.

Rugby Saint II 05-22-2023 01:52 PM
Re: Could The Saints Buck The Trend?
 
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Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 974400)
Don't forget that playcalling depends upon having players that can execute. Missing 3/5th's of the offensive line, your starting QB, and three of your top WR's has a tendency to play havoc with having called plays executed properly. From the stands I could see wide open receivers consistently ignored by Dalton. Sure, Carmichael could have been more aggressive at times, but you can hang a lot of that on the players or lack there of.
What would Payton do? Payton would have called better plays for his back ups to be more successful. It's just a gut feeling I've got.

AsylumGuido 05-22-2023 02:19 PM
Re: Could The Saints Buck The Trend?
 
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Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II (Post 974467)
What would Payton do? Payton would have called better plays for his back ups to be more successful. It's just a gut feeling I've got.
Like he did in 2021? Don't forget, we were decimated that year, too, and had Payton in charge. We finished in the bottom half of the league in scoring. As great as Payton was he too was hogtied by the injuries that year. It was arguably the worst offense in his tenure. Would we have been better with him calling plays last year instead of Carmichael? Probably. But by how much?


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