Could The Saints Buck The Trend?

SmashMouth · 05-19-2023, 11:04 AM

Boston Saint · 05-19-2023, 11:45 AM

Originally Posted by SmashMouth

https://twitter.com/SaintsNews/statu...67855346515968

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SmashMouth · 05-19-2023, 12:17 PM

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K Major · 05-19-2023, 12:39 PM

Originally Posted by SmashMouth

https://youtu.be/b7ARKbuwpBQ

Quick recap:

The Saints still have a bunch of "what if's" because of health & no one truly knows how many games Michael Thomas will play in 2023.

CB depth is probably our strength but still wasn't good enough.

NO TAKEAWAYS (franchise low) on defense in 2022.

And Will Lutz is no longer Mr. Automatic

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Yep, all of these FA roster moves, and the draft is good on paper. Players still gotta play/execute & coaches gotta coach.

Let's geaux

SmashMouth · 05-19-2023, 01:15 PM

Originally Posted by K Major

Quick recap:

The Saints still have a bunch of "what if's" because of health & no one truly knows how many games Michael Thomas will play in 2023.

CB depth is probably our strength but still wasn't good enough.

NO TAKEAWAYS (franchise low) on defense in 2022.

And Will Lutz is no longer Mr. Automatic .

Yep, all of these FA roster moves, and the draft is good on paper. Players still gotta play/execute & coaches gotta coach.

Let's geaux

So Mr. Choke is excited then?

leilung · 05-19-2023, 01:46 PM

Originally Posted by K Major

Quick recap:

The Saints still have a bunch of "what if's" because of health & no one truly knows how many games Michael Thomas will play in 2023.

CB depth is probably our strength but still wasn't good enough.

NO TAKEAWAYS (franchise low) on defense in 2022.

And Will Lutz is no longer Mr. Automatic .

Yep, all of these FA roster moves, and the draft is good on paper. Players still gotta play/execute & coaches gotta coach.

Let's geaux

We'll see. The front office has done a lot towards giving the team a fighting chance with depth at WR, OL, and CB. Let's see what happens in camp. Health seems to be the number two problem with hindering this team's success. Number one would be play calling.

AsylumGuido · 05-19-2023, 05:30 PM

Originally Posted by leilung

We'll see. The front office has done a lot towards giving the team a fighting chance with depth at WR, OL, and CB. Let's see what happens in camp. Health seems to be the number two problem with hindering this team's success. Number one would be play calling.

Don't forget that playcalling depends upon having players that can execute. Missing 3/5th's of the offensive line, your starting QB, and three of your top WR's has a tendency to play havoc with having called plays executed properly. From the stands I could see wide open receivers consistently ignored by Dalton. Sure, Carmichael could have been more aggressive at times, but you can hang a lot of that on the players or lack there of.

Rugby Saint II · 05-22-2023, 02:52 PM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

Don't forget that playcalling depends upon having players that can execute. Missing 3/5th's of the offensive line, your starting QB, and three of your top WR's has a tendency to play havoc with having called plays executed properly. From the stands I could see wide open receivers consistently ignored by Dalton. Sure, Carmichael could have been more aggressive at times, but you can hang a lot of that on the players or lack there of.

What would Payton do? Payton would have called better plays for his back ups to be more successful. It's just a gut feeling I've got.

AsylumGuido · 05-22-2023, 03:19 PM

Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II

What would Payton do? Payton would have called better plays for his back ups to be more successful. It's just a gut feeling I've got.

Like he did in 2021? Don't forget, we were decimated that year, too, and had Payton in charge. We finished in the bottom half of the league in scoring. As great as Payton was he too was hogtied by the injuries that year. It was arguably the worst offense in his tenure. Would we have been better with him calling plays last year instead of Carmichael? Probably. But by how much?

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K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,619 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Could The Saints Buck The Trend? Originally Posted by SmashMouth https://youtu.be/b7ARKbuwpBQ Quick recap: The Saints still have a bunch of "what if's" because of health & no one truly knows how many games Michael Thomas will play in 2023. CB depth is probably our strength but still wasn't good enough. NO TAKEAWAYS (franchise low) on defense in 2022. And Will Lutz is no longer Mr. Automatic . Yep, all of these FA roster moves, and the draft is good on paper. Players still gotta play/execute & coaches gotta coach. Let's geaux leilung, SmashMouth, Rugby Saint II and 1 others like this.

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SmashMouth I donated, did you? Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Mandeville, LA Posts: 38,125 Blog Entries: 29	Re: Could The Saints Buck The Trend? Originally Posted by K Major Quick recap: The Saints still have a bunch of "what if's" because of health & no one truly knows how many games Michael Thomas will play in 2023. CB depth is probably our strength but still wasn't good enough. NO TAKEAWAYS (franchise low) on defense in 2022. And Will Lutz is no longer Mr. Automatic . Yep, all of these FA roster moves, and the draft is good on paper. Players still gotta play/execute & coaches gotta coach. Let's geaux So Mr. Choke is excited then?

05-19-2023, 01:46 PM	#6
leilung Booty Bandit Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: The Wastelands that are NJ Posts: 1,369	Re: Could The Saints Buck The Trend? Originally Posted by K Major Quick recap: The Saints still have a bunch of "what if's" because of health & no one truly knows how many games Michael Thomas will play in 2023. CB depth is probably our strength but still wasn't good enough. NO TAKEAWAYS (franchise low) on defense in 2022. And Will Lutz is no longer Mr. Automatic . Yep, all of these FA roster moves, and the draft is good on paper. Players still gotta play/execute & coaches gotta coach. Let's geaux We'll see. The front office has done a lot towards giving the team a fighting chance with depth at WR, OL, and CB. Let's see what happens in camp. Health seems to be the number two problem with hindering this team's success. Number one would be play calling. Rugby Saint II likes this.

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AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,220	Re: Could The Saints Buck The Trend? Originally Posted by leilung We'll see. The front office has done a lot towards giving the team a fighting chance with depth at WR, OL, and CB. Let's see what happens in camp. Health seems to be the number two problem with hindering this team's success. Number one would be play calling. Don't forget that playcalling depends upon having players that can execute. Missing 3/5th's of the offensive line, your starting QB, and three of your top WR's has a tendency to play havoc with having called plays executed properly. From the stands I could see wide open receivers consistently ignored by Dalton. Sure, Carmichael could have been more aggressive at times, but you can hang a lot of that on the players or lack there of.

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Rugby Saint II Bounty Money $$$ Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: 5800 Airline Dr. Metairie, LA. Posts: 24,052	Re: Could The Saints Buck The Trend? Originally Posted by AsylumGuido Don't forget that playcalling depends upon having players that can execute. Missing 3/5th's of the offensive line, your starting QB, and three of your top WR's has a tendency to play havoc with having called plays executed properly. From the stands I could see wide open receivers consistently ignored by Dalton. Sure, Carmichael could have been more aggressive at times, but you can hang a lot of that on the players or lack there of. What would Payton do? Payton would have called better plays for his back ups to be more successful. It's just a gut feeling I've got.

05-22-2023, 03:19 PM	#9
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,220	Re: Could The Saints Buck The Trend? Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II What would Payton do? Payton would have called better plays for his back ups to be more successful. It's just a gut feeling I've got. Like he did in 2021? Don't forget, we were decimated that year, too, and had Payton in charge. We finished in the bottom half of the league in scoring. As great as Payton was he too was hogtied by the injuries that year. It was arguably the worst offense in his tenure. Would we have been better with him calling plays last year instead of Carmichael? Probably. But by how much?