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mapcow 05-25-2023 09:24 AM

New NFL Kickoff Rule
 
LOL

New NFL Kickoff/Safety faircatch rule, basically eliminates the onside kick. All a receiving team need do is call a fair catch with the onside threat.... another nail in the coffin for the once phenomenal NFL..... :beatnik:

K Major 05-25-2023 09:31 AM

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This league is becoming as soft as cotton.

See the Pro Bowl :rolleyes:.

We are starting to mimic Arena Football.

SmashMouth 05-25-2023 10:01 AM

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Originally Posted by mapcow (Post 974550)
LOL

New NFL Kickoff/Safety faircatch rule, basically eliminates the onside kick. All a receiving team need do is call a fair catch with the onside threat.... another nail in the coffin for the once phenomenal NFL..... :beatnik:

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Originally Posted by K Major (Post 974551)
This league is becoming as soft as cotton.

See the Pro Bowl :rolleyes:.

We are starting to mimic Arena Football.

The anti-SP rule, it appears.

Guess Malik Flowers will have to make it as a punt returner and WR.

K Major 05-25-2023 10:33 AM

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AsylumGuido 05-25-2023 11:14 AM

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Originally Posted by SmashMouth (Post 974552)
The anti-SP rule, it appears.

Guess Malik Flowers will have to make it as a punt returner and WR.

It appears someone has no clue what they are posting about. Under the new rule you can only call a fair catch if the ball is in flight inside the 25 yard line. You cannot call a fair catch if the ball touches the ground as in an onside or a squib kick. Those balls remain in play. It will not have any affect on the onside kick at all.

Good kickoff returners will still see the value in returning the ball. This will in no way eliminate all kickoff returns.

AsylumGuido 05-25-2023 11:43 AM

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K Major 05-25-2023 11:53 AM

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I suppose Andy Reid doesn't know what the hell he's talking about either :rolleyes:

The league is becoming soft.

AsylumGuido 05-25-2023 12:03 PM

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By the way, I do not like the new rule, but to be truly critical it helps to actually know what the rule implies. While it will not eliminate kickoff returns, squib kicks, or onside kicks, it will make one of the most exciting plays in the game less frequent.

neugey 05-25-2023 01:06 PM

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I'm going to reserve judgement until the change is made. But I'm not wild about the idea.

mapcow 05-25-2023 06:42 PM

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Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 974556)
It appears someone has no clue what they are posting about. Under the new rule you can only call a fair catch if the ball is in flight inside the 25 yard line. You cannot call a fair catch if the ball touches the ground as in an onside or a squib kick. Those balls remain in play. It will not have any affect on the onside kick at all.

Good kickoff returners will still see the value in returning the ball. This will in no way eliminate all kickoff returns.

YYAAAAWWWWWNNNnnn :beatnik:

AsylumGuido 06-07-2023 01:34 PM

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I'm hearing that teams are planning on letting their kick returners return the ball anyway and rarely use the fair catch. One of the primary reasons is if the fair catch is called for and the kick is not fielded cleanly on the fly (ie. muffed), it cannot be advanced, doesn't go to out to the 25, and is down at the point it was touched. That can be a field position killer.

subguy 06-08-2023 05:17 AM

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Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 974946)
I'm hearing that teams are planning on letting their kick returners return the ball anyway and rarely use the fair catch. One of the primary reasons is if the fair catch is called for and the kick is not fielded cleanly on the fly (ie. muffed), it cannot be advanced, doesn't go to out to the 25, and is down at the point it was touched. That can be a field position killer.

Man I wish I was a connected to the league leadership as you! I am envious. Are there any other league plans you can divulge to us?

AsylumGuido 06-08-2023 08:39 AM

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Originally Posted by subguy (Post 974964)
Man I wish I was a connected to the league leadership as you! I am envious. Are there any other league plans you can divulge to us?

No need to feel envious. It's called paying attention to all of the interviews and articles by special teams coaches, and others connected to the game, surrounding this issue since this rule change was announced. The information is all out there for anyone ambitious enough to seek it out. For the others here, and elsewhere, I graciously share what I find. Being retired and loving the NFL (and especially the Saints) as I do I understand I have more time on my hands than those of you slaving away at the old 9 to 5. You are most welcome!

:chug:

Rugby Saint II 06-08-2023 02:37 PM

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Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 974556)
It appears someone has no clue what they are posting about. Under the new rule you can only call a fair catch if the ball is in flight inside the 25 yard line. You cannot call a fair catch if the ball touches the ground as in an onside or a squib kick. Those balls remain in play. It will not have any affect on the onside kick at all.

Good kickoff returners will still see the value in returning the ball. This will in no way eliminate all kickoff returns.

Fortunately, we have a good returner.

AsylumGuido 06-08-2023 03:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II (Post 974997)
Fortunately, we have a good returner.

And this is why our special team's coordinator, Darren Rizzi, has been quoted as saying that the Saints are not planning on using the fair catch option much at all. I heard another coach say that you may get stuck inside the 25 sometimes, but with a good returner you can get possession at the 40, 50, or even better enough times that it make up for it.

AsylumGuido 08-13-2023 05:35 PM

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Well, having watched several games through the first week of preseason with this new rule I haven't seen a single instance of the fair catch on the kickoff as defined by this new rule.

It appears to be much ado about nothing.

AsylumGuido 08-16-2023 11:25 AM

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Well, it looks like I didn't miss anything in week one. There were no uses of the new rule in any of the games.


vpheughan 08-16-2023 02:31 PM

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A crafty coach could take advantage of the new rule.

In fact it sort of happened last season in the Ravens vs Lions game: The Ravens got the ball back at their own 25-yard line with no timeouts. After failing on their first three plays, the Ravens converted a dramatic 4th-and-19 when Lamar Jackson hit Sammy Watkins for a 36-yard gain. The long play set the Ravens up at Detroit's 48-yard line, which set the stage for Justin Tucker's record setting, game winning 66 yard field goal.

mapcow 08-17-2023 08:18 AM

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Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 977271)
Well, having watched several games through the first week of preseason with this new rule I haven't seen a single instance of the fair catch on the kickoff as defined by this new rule.

It appears to be much ado about nothing.

ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ :beatnk:

Rugby Saint II 08-17-2023 12:22 PM

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Originally Posted by mapcow (Post 977452)
ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ :beatnk:

When you wake up from your nap come watch a Saints game with us. :p

AsylumGuido 08-17-2023 12:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II (Post 977476)
When you wake up from your nap come watch a Saints game with us. :p

The fact that they're playing well, especially Michael Thomas, probably makes him nauseous. :dead:


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