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K Major 06-07-2023 01:09 PM

Your Breakout Player For 2023
 
Figured it's time for new post(s) instead of the same regurgitation of topics :rolleyes:.

When I say "breakout", I'm referring to a guy who you believe is going to go above and beyond at practices/OTAs/training camp & subsequent games on Sundays. Training camp will be here before you know it.

I'm going with Juwan Johnson on offense and Alontae Taylor on defense.

Who ya got :p :bng: ?

saintsfan1976 06-07-2023 07:22 PM

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I'm going to go with breakout player of the season since OTA/TC is so heavily regulated.

Lattimore
Penning

Boston Saint 06-07-2023 07:32 PM

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I’ll go Miller on O. Does a bounce back year from Latt count on D?

hitta 06-07-2023 07:32 PM

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Easy...Carr. He looked like a Pro-Bowler in some of the years that passed. He's going to look like a Hall of Famer this year.

leilung 06-07-2023 07:42 PM

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On D, I'm really feeling Taylor on that other corner!
On O, I like JJ.

My Dark Horse: Michael Thomas!

K Major 06-07-2023 08:16 PM

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Solid selections.

Solid.

SmashMouth 06-07-2023 08:41 PM

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So no votes for Andrus Peat? NFW... Of course, "breakout" could have a double meaning in his case.

K Major 06-07-2023 09:24 PM

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Originally Posted by SmashMouth (Post 974960)
So no votes for Andrus Peat? NFW... Of course, "breakout" could have a double meaning in his case.

Lol.

Fingers crossed he stays somewhat healthy this year.

IMO 2023 will be Peat’s final season in N.O.

WW_Who_Dat 06-07-2023 10:00 PM

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If things go as planned … he will never see the field except from the sidelines 🤞

BakoSaint 06-07-2023 10:46 PM

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Shaheed. Thomas is glass. Olave has had some injuries. Carr will air it out.

papz 06-08-2023 07:48 AM

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Shaheed 60+ touches
Juwan Johnson 50+ catches, 10 touchdowns

K Major 06-08-2023 09:25 AM

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Shaheed ...

Even in year #2, he appears to be a more well-rounded WR vs Harty.

I'm hoping AT Perry becomes another gem in the passing attack.

Boston Saint 06-08-2023 10:19 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by K Major (Post 974969)
Shaheed ...

Even in year #2, he appears to be a more well-rounded WR vs Harty.

I'm hoping AT Perry becomes another gem in the passing attack.

Has the potential for sure. Key is the QB. Just like Brees brought out the best in his receivers hopefully Carr can do the same.

cmike 06-08-2023 10:30 AM

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Was going to go with Rashid but he was my pick last season.
Didn’t drop a pass all season ( I believe this to be true).
I’m going to go with Payton Turner.
Guy hasn’t played a bad game of NFL football yet. Just hasn’t played many NFL football games.

Boston Saint 06-08-2023 11:12 AM

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Originally Posted by cmike (Post 974971)
Was going to go with Rashid but he was my pick last season.
Didn’t drop a pass all season ( I believe this to be true).
I’m going to go with Payton Turner.
Guy hasn’t played a bad game of NFL football yet. Just hasn’t played many NFL football games.

I like how we have a promising young player with initials PT on the D line to pull for and a promising young player with initials TP to pull for on the O line. Weird sort of symmetry I like. Kinda like when we had Pierre Thomas in the offensive backfield and Tracy Porter in the D backfield.

K Major 06-08-2023 12:29 PM

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Honorable mention ...

Trevor Penning aka "nasty baby". If he's completely healed from turf toe, watch out.

Rugby Saint II 06-08-2023 12:37 PM

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Eno Benjamin and Krull haven't been mentioned yet.

K Major 06-08-2023 12:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II (Post 974981)
Eno Benjamin and Krull haven't been mentioned yet.

Remember this one? Krull was Lord of the Rings (big budget) of its day but flopped :rolleyes:.

https://th.bing.com/th/id/OIP.SoPiok...id=ImgDet&rs=1

leilung 06-08-2023 02:05 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by K Major (Post 974983)
Remember this one? Krull was Lord of the Rings (big budget) of its day but flopped :rolleyes:.

https://th.bing.com/th/id/OIP.SoPiok...id=ImgDet&rs=1

It was HORRIBLE! Bad acting. Bad Story. Bad special effects....

must be why I watched it several times as a teen!
:cool:

Rugby Saint II 06-08-2023 02:20 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by leilung (Post 974992)
It was HORRIBLE! Bad acting. Bad Story. Bad special effects....

must be why I watched it several times as a teen!
:cool:

I am looking forward to Krull's first TD in the Dome when the Dome is Rocking and yelling out Krull's name!

iceshack149 06-08-2023 03:15 PM

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Kendre Miller due to Kamara's likely suspension
Andrew Dowell due to lack of LBs!

AsylumGuido 06-08-2023 03:34 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II (Post 974995)
I am looking forward to Krull's first TD in the Dome when the Dome is Rocking and yelling out Krull's name!

That would be cool. It's going to be tough getting playing time with Johnson, Moreau, Hill, and Jesse James all ahead of him on the depth chart coming into camp. That's a lot of experience and TD's scored to leap frog. :D

AsylumGuido 06-08-2023 03:49 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by iceshack149 (Post 975002)
Kendre Miller due to Kamara's likely suspension
Andrew Dowell due to lack of LBs!

Dowell will be in competition for one of the two backup spots behind Davis and Werner, for sure this year. I know the team is really high on D'Marco Jackson who we drafted last year and Anfernee Orji, who we picked up as a UDFA this year. Both seem real intriguing. Not sure where Baun, Sewall, Summers, and the Tulane rookie, Nick Anderson come into play. We'll see come training camp with real pads and contact. We have practices scheduled now with both the Chargers and the Texans.

iceshack149 09-13-2023 05:29 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by K Major (Post 974978)
Honorable mention ...

Trevor Penning aka "nasty baby". If he's completely healed from turf toe, watch out.

Quote:

Originally Posted by saintsfan1976 (Post 974955)
I'm going to go with breakout player of the season since OTA/TC is so heavily regulated.

Lattimore
Penning

Despite starting the first game poorly I think Penning will clean up and be a solid LT by the end of this years Championship run.:chug:

saintsfan1976 09-14-2023 01:00 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by iceshack149 (Post 979746)
Despite starting the first game poorly I think Penning will clean up and be a solid LT by the end of this years Championship run.:chug:

He has nowhere to go but UP! :bng::chug:

Rugby Saint II 09-14-2023 01:05 PM

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Right now, Shaheed looks like a safe bet for the Saints breakout player after the first game. Honorable mention- Juwan Johnson.

Derek Carr MVP.

AsylumGuido 09-15-2023 01:45 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by iceshack149 (Post 979746)
Despite starting the first game poorly I think Penning will clean up and be a solid LT by the end of this years Championship run.:chug:

Quote:

Originally Posted by saintsfan1976 (Post 979790)
He has nowhere to go but UP! :bng::chug:


BakoSaint 09-15-2023 03:41 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 979825)

The assessment I have heard is that he has lead feet and pass rushers just run around him or make him move laterally and trip over himself. He might be able to bench press a lot and run ok in a straight line and dunk a basketball and do back flips but he gets beat around the edge. But I dont know how much that is technique and footwork and how much of that is just his achilles heel as an otherwise great athlete. Some things like use of hands and not getting fooled by pass rushers moves are obviously technique while pure physical measureables may be inherent athleticism but I am not sure where this combination of footwork, lateral speed, and getting beat around the edge falls.

AsylumGuido 09-15-2023 04:21 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by BakoSaint (Post 979831)
The assessment I have heard is that he has lead feet and pass rushers just run around him or make him move laterally and trip over himself. He might be able to bench press a lot and run ok in a straight line and dunk a basketball and do back flips but he gets beat around the edge. But I dont know how much that is technique and footwork and how much of that is just his achilles heel as an otherwise great athlete. Some things like use of hands and not getting fooled by pass rushers moves are obviously technique while pure physical measureables may be inherent athleticism but I am not sure where this combination of footwork, lateral speed, and getting beat around the edge falls.

And exactly where and from whom did you hear that assessment? I'd be very interested to hear or read that myself. I'd make sure to share it with everyone else, as well!

Thanks in advance!

:bng:

Boston Saint 09-15-2023 04:37 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 979832)
And exactly where and from whom did you hear that assessment? I'd be very interested to hear or read that myself. I'd make sure to share it with everyone else, as well!

Thanks in advance!

:bng:


AsylumGuido 09-15-2023 04:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Boston Saint (Post 979833)

That source is probably less fictitious, to be sure.

Rugby Saint II 09-17-2023 01:20 PM

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With more playing time maybe it's Foskey.

saintsfan1976 09-19-2023 02:45 PM

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Lattimore is having a All Pro year.

Penning improved as expected. Nowhere near his ceiling...

Boston Saint 09-19-2023 02:53 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by saintsfan1976 (Post 980312)
Lattimore is having a All Pro year.

Penning improved as expected. Nowhere near his ceiling...

I’ll pat my own back!…” Does a bounce back year from Latt count on D?”

Me in June.

K Major 09-19-2023 02:56 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by saintsfan1976 (Post 980312)
Lattimore is having a All Pro year.

Penning improved as expected. Nowhere near his ceiling...

Check out that TD run as Penning flattened the defender to the pile :o.

I keep saying ... "give him time".

WW_Who_Dat 09-19-2023 04:29 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by K Major (Post 980320)
Check out that TD run as Penning flattened the defender to the pile :o.

I keep saying ... "give him time".

That was impressive K … a Mack Truck could have driven thru that hole, TP cleaned out that left guard all the way to the right guards position and as you said just drove him into the pile.

AsylumGuido 09-19-2023 04:36 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by K Major (Post 980320)
Check out that TD run as Penning flattened the defender to the pile :o.

I keep saying ... "give him time".

Yup. Give them all time. Each of the individuals on our o-line have exhibited excellent play over the past few years. They need the chance to gel as a unit. It will happen and when it does we are going to be unstoppable on both sides of the bal.

K Major 09-19-2023 06:12 PM

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Well, two games in Carl Granderson says “hold my beer”.

That strip sack on Bryce was noyce !

He’s a real problem.

dizzle88 09-20-2023 12:35 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by K Major (Post 980356)
Well, two games in Carl Granderson says “hold my beer”.

That strip sack on Bryce was noyce !

He’s a real problem.

Granderson is playing amazing, I'm very impressed.

It's not just pass rushing either, he made a Cam Jordan-esque inside move to blow up a Miles Sanders run.

Speaking of pass rushing though, that strip sack was beautiful. If you watch the replay, when he's tracking Young, he's staring at the ball the whole way. Then perfectly chops at Young's right hand to force it.

Very happy with our D line. I also noticed Nathan Shepherd getting to Young quite a few times.

SmashMouth 09-20-2023 07:08 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by K Major (Post 980356)
Well, two games in Carl Granderson says “hold my beer”.

That strip sack on Bryce was noyce !

He’s a real problem.

Quote:

Originally Posted by dizzle88 (Post 980366)
Granderson is playing amazing, I'm very impressed.

It's not just pass rushing either, he made a Cam Jordan-esque inside move to blow up a Miles Sanders run.

Speaking of pass rushing though, that strip sack was beautiful. If you watch the replay, when he's tracking Young, he's staring at the ball the whole way. Then perfectly chops at Young's right hand to force it.

Very happy with our D line. I also noticed Nathan Shepherd getting to Young quite a few times.

He's come a long way from an UDFA. We need to keep him unlike what we did with Trey Hendrickson. Makes the experiment with Marcus way too expensive.


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