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Rugby Saint II 07-10-2023 02:23 PM

Re: Proposed Trade Reunites Raiders’ $140 Million Star With Derek Carr on Saints
 
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Originally Posted by WW_Who_Dat (Post 975846)
Zero … Zilch … Nada … Bupcus …

I see what you did there. :p

Cruize 07-11-2023 08:47 AM

Re: Proposed Trade Reunites Raiders’ $140 Million Star With Derek Carr on Saints
 
Pass. Good player. Not worth his salary at this point. Not a need position for the Saints. He should ask for a trade to a team with some cap space and one with a young talented QB like the Jags, Chargers or Panthers. He's getting paid but the Riders will continue to lose.

Rugby Saint II 07-11-2023 12:16 PM

Re: Proposed Trade Reunites Raiders’ $140 Million Star With Derek Carr on Saints
 
I'm not interested in this trade, but are there any players that you'd like to trade for? I was thinking that a DT might be the way to go.

AsylumGuido 07-11-2023 01:07 PM

Re: Proposed Trade Reunites Raiders’ $140 Million Star With Derek Carr on Saints
 
I'd rather wait and see what we already have once "real" practice gets underway. I wouldn't want to waste a draft pick on a player via trade that may end up getting released anyway. We have four DT's right now in Bresee, Roach, Saunders, and Shephard that could be hard to replace on the final 53 as it is. We usually only carry four DT's.

CheramieIII 07-12-2023 06:23 PM

Re: Proposed Trade Reunites Raiders’ $140 Million Star With Derek Carr on Saints
 
I would be OK with trading Thomas and a 1st for Adams! With Adams, Olive, Sheed, our RB’s and new QB we are top five!!!

Rugby Saint II 07-13-2023 09:41 AM

Re: Proposed Trade Reunites Raiders’ $140 Million Star With Derek Carr on Saints
 
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Originally Posted by CheramieIII (Post 975950)
I would be OK with trading Thomas and a 1st for Adams! With Adams, Olive, Sheed, our RB’s and new QB we are top five!!!

Loomis might just jump on that deal. Thomas won't be here next year no matter how well he plays. Someone will pay him more than we will and I'd be happy with getting something for him now. But honestly, I don't think that he has any trade value though after coming off of a three year injury bug.

AsylumGuido 07-13-2023 11:00 AM

Re: Proposed Trade Reunites Raiders’ $140 Million Star With Derek Carr on Saints
 
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Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II (Post 975964)
Loomis might just jump on that deal. Thomas won't be here next year no matter how well he plays. Someone will pay him more than we will and I'd be happy with getting something for him now. But honestly, I don't think that he has any trade value though after coming off of a three year injury bug.

I believe this is a prove it year for Thomas. If he returns to anywhere near his previous form I would expect they jump all over a long term deal to keep him around. He'll only be a couple of years from breaking every record held by Colston and future cap space wouldn't be an issue. I believe that Thomas has even indicated he wants to stick around to work with Carr as long as possible. That's at least five years for Carr and probably longer.

SmashMouth 07-13-2023 11:47 AM

Re: Proposed Trade Reunites Raiders’ $140 Million Star With Derek Carr on Saints
 
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Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 975968)
I believe this is a prove it year for Thomas. If he returns to anywhere near his previous form I would expect they jump all over a long term deal to keep him around. He'll only be a couple of years from breaking every record held by Colston and future cap space wouldn't be an issue. I believe that Thomas has even indicated he wants to stick around to work with Carr as long as possible. That's at least five years for Carr and probably longer.

He owes the Saints .

AsylumGuido 07-13-2023 12:51 PM

Re: Proposed Trade Reunites Raiders’ $140 Million Star With Derek Carr on Saints
 
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Originally Posted by SmashMouth (Post 975972)
He owes the Saints .

And more importantly he owes it to himself, as do the Saints. He was robbed of almost three years of his career because of two freak, totally unrelated, on-field injuries and a case of mismanagement by the coaching and medical teams.

BakoSaint 07-13-2023 06:59 PM

Re: Proposed Trade Reunites Raiders’ $140 Million Star With Derek Carr on Saints
 
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Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 975968)
I believe this is a prove it year for Thomas. If he returns to anywhere near his previous form I would expect they jump all over a long term deal to keep him around. He'll only be a couple of years from breaking every record held by Colston and future cap space wouldn't be an issue. I believe that Thomas has even indicated he wants to stick around to work with Carr as long as possible. That's at least five years for Carr and probably longer.

I believe the worse Thomas does this year, or the more he is injured, the more likely he is back in 2024. In the unlikely event that he returns to 2019 form there would be a bidding war for his services like Armstead or Williams and we might lose that war. But if he plays a few games, appears to have lost a step, fights with teammates, and then gets injured and undergoes microfracture surgery on both knees, we are likely to resign him in order to avoid the dead money cap hit, just like we have done with Peat and Winston when they have been injured or underperformed in supposedly make or break years. We face an $18 million cap hit of dead money for Thomas in 2024 but if nobody else is competing for his services we can likely retain him and keep the immediate cap hit to $11-12 million while pushing some of the dead money forward to future years, Loomis style.


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